The Alito Hearings...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Midas, Jan 12, 2006.

  1. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 New Member

    Every thread in this place ends up in a defense of one's favorite political party and attack on the opponent. One would think it was a football game. As long as people treat politics in this manner, the two parties will play the game to manipulate public opinion. And the nation is worse off for it. It's very sad. That said...

    I think the Bork hearings taught all future nominees to just sit quietly and say nothing. No government committee will ever again get straight answers from any nominee for anything because of their execution-style cross-examination tactics. It's the kiss of death. So Alito isn't overwhelming them with his legal brilliance as much as he demonstrates the incredible self control to ignore the bait and the insults while his wife sobs behind him. He probably wants to jump over the bench and throw a few punches, but wants to be on the Supreme Court even more.
     
  2. OldDan

    OldDan New Member

    An astuté observation of the hearings

    Liberals are being routed. By the end of the hearings, Aleto will be addressing the senators as "dude." Democrats have not been able to persuade a single normal American that Sam Alito is "out of the mainstream."
    It's good to be reminded that the sole item on the Democrats' agenda is abortion. According to Dianne Feinstein, Roe v. Wade is critically important because "women all over America have come to depend on it." At its most majestic, this precious right that women "have come to depend on" is the right to have sex with men they don't want to have children with. There's a stirring principle! Leave aside the part of this precious constitutional right that involves (1) not allowing Americans to vote on the matter, and (2) suctioning brains out of half-born babies. The right to have sex with men you don't want to have children with is not exactly "Give me liberty, or give me death."

    The history of the nation
    There has never been a political party so ridiculous as today's Democrats. It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc.

    In the beginning, the Federalists drafted the greatest political philosophy ever written by man and created the first constitutional republic. The anti-Federalists -- or "pre-Democrats, as we could call them -- were formed to oppose the Constitution, which, to a great extent, remains their position today.

    Andrew Jackson, the father of the Democratic Party, may have had some unpalatable goals, but at least they were big ideas. Wipe out the Indians, kill off the national bank and institute a spoils system. Love him or hate him, he never said, "I'll be announcing my platform sometime early next year." The Whigs were formed in opposition to everything Jackson stood for.

    The Republican Party emerged from the Whigs when the Whigs waffled on slavery. (They were "pro-choice" on slavery.) The Republican Party was founded expressly as the anti-slavery party, which to a great extent remains their position today.

    Having won that one, today's Republican Party stands for life, limited government and national defense. And today's Democratic Party stands for ... the right of women to have unprotected sex with men they don't especially like. We're the Blacks-Aren't-Property/Don't-Kill-Babies party. They're the Hook-Up party.

    This week's conventional wisdom is that the Democrats weren't even trying to nail Alito at the confirmation hearings. Au contraire! The Democrats were tigers! They proved exactly what they set out to prove.

    In fact, Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-Hillary's state, was so deft in his questioning, he even has me convinced that Alito is going to vote to overrule Roe v. Wade. (And just when I thought I couldn't be more enthusiastic about the nomination!)

    I'll go out on a limb and bet that, after the Democrats' expert cross-examination, Judge Alito has lost the support of every single member of NARAL.

    The problem for the Democrats is: NARAL members aren't like most people. "Give me liberty or give me the right to have unprotected sex with men I don't want to have a child with" just isn't that attractive a principle in the light of day.
     
  3. Danr

    Danr New Member

    I just thought that since we were trashing people.....
     
  4. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Well, as a liberal democrat, I guess that is all we can expect from you.

    After all, you have lost in the political arena, you have lost in the economic arena, you have lost in the arena of how to fight a war, and liberals now have lost in the judical arena.

    What is the "left" political playbook? Destroy one's character!! Throw as much mud at Alito as you can and hope that he will fold. His wife folded because she likely thought, "all this is NOT worth it." Real Americans witnessed the events that took place and saw liberals for what they are. Again, the irony of the situation was watching Ted Kennedy blast Alito about ethics! Remember, Kennedy participated in these hearings, Bush did not...but go ahead and blast Bush because it is your "knee-jerk" (with emphasis on the word "jerk") reaction!

    Maybe liberals should focus their energy on trying to convince more Americans that you can defend this country better, or that raising taxes is good for America, that government knows what is best for the American people, that we should not be less dependent on muslim oil, or government should administer all of the country's heathcare. Why don't you argue in the arena of these ideas and political insight?

    Oh, I forgot...because you will lose!

    So I guess all you got is character assassination. Typical...try to destroy somebody so you can elevate your lonely self. It's the "left" way!
     
  5. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    Ok Danr you are attacking Bush for we are stating some truths about Kennedys. Does that mean you are aware of all of Kennedy's murderous past and his associations with rapists and other murders, tends out to be fellow members of that Kennedy clan, and are rationalizing by saying well my guy might be all that but your guy is......
    Personally, I feel disgust everytime I see that murderous pompus self-rightous drunk talk about family values, women's rights, or anything else for the matter and I can not see how anyone who is a decent person could like that billionare family creep.
     
  6. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 New Member

    It's pretty comical to watch people in here refer to the democrats as the "left." It's almost as if they somehow think the neoconservative republicans now in power are "conservative." Let's review the "accomplishments" of the neocons:

    - implementation of Medicare drug program, largest new entitlement program since LBJ

    - largest US contributions to the IMF of any administration in US history

    - suppport for "harmonization" of laws with central and south american trading partners

    - modification of US tax law as demanded by the WTO

    - federal government oversight of local education

    - largest federal government spending increases in history

    - largest increase in the federal debt in history

    - support for an interventionist foreign policy

    - complete unquestioned acceptance of central economic planning

    Anyway, you get the point. I wish there was a conservative American political party among the big two so I could vote for them. Sadly, what passes as right wing conservative today would have been left of center 30 years ago.

    So for all of you republican supporters out there, the left won. You just didn't notice because the media controls what you think and believe. The only remaining skirmish to be settled is which party gets to chair the committees and whether the bills will be paid with taxes or debt.
     
  7. Danr

    Danr New Member

    He has a point
     
  8. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    Quite a few of us have referred to Bush as being liberal in many posts in many threads in the past and since Danr supports Cloudsweepers post, I guess we don't have to hear how Bush is so far right anymore.

    But the point is that no one could come up with a logical defense of Kennedy so the topic was changed.
     
  9. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Teddy was right to be diligent in these hearings. As I have mentioned I have an uncle who had to go before Teddy in the Senate and he did not let him off easy. Teddy is tough on everyone. That is why the right is always trashing him
     
  10. OldDan

    OldDan New Member

    Teddy is toughest on the women, and so far as 'trash'. He's about the trashiest senator in Washington.
     
  11. OldDan

    OldDan New Member

    Well, Teddy and old Finkelstein beat on their chests and wailed for hours, but Alito was approved by the Senate Judicial Committee any way. You could say that first it was Canada and now it's going to be the Supreme Court getting rid of the liberals. A new day is dawning!

    Look for old Sam to be confirmed by the total Senate by a vote of 56 to 43. Then we can move on to getting rid of a couple of liberal congressmen. Yippee!:kewl:
     
  12. Danr

    Danr New Member

    You use that line a lot and over and over again you prove that you have little if any connection with reality.
     
  13. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Like I said
     
  14. OldDan

    OldDan New Member

    Well, it's official... he was elected by a vote of 58 to 42. Just about what I expected.
    Now we can get on with the second part of my prediction, with the liberal congressmen. Yippeee again!:hug:
     
  15. craigG

    craigG New Member

    He'll just be another one of Bush's lapdogs.
     
  16. OldDan

    OldDan New Member

    You know, I've always had a special fondness for Scotties!:whistle:
     
  17. Troodon

    Troodon New Member

    Almost a perfect part line vote... only 1 republican voted against and 4 democrats voted for him. (The independent, who is effectively a democrat in all but name anyway, voted againast).
     
  18. quick dog

    quick dog New Member

    I think they should do a new vote for Ruth Bader-Ginzburg. I believe that she got 98 votes from the Senate while the Democrats were in-charge.
     
  19. Midas

    Midas New Member

    The reason was that even Republicans saw through her ACLU participations that she was QUALIFIED. They may have not agreed with her position on abortion, etc., but she was QUALIFIED and republicans put politics aside and voted for her based on her merit. The president has the power nominate anybody he sees fit. If that person is qualified and has the necessary experience, tough!!

    Unfortunately, liberals have lost in the arena of ideas, lost at the ballot box, and now have lost at the judicial level. Liberals can't stand this as they want their judges to legislate from the bench. It is the only they can get keep that ideas alive by deeming the voters way as "unconstitutional".

    Look at some of the bills and propositions in the recent past that liberal judges found to be unconstitutional:

    Elimination of racial quotas from everything to college applications to job qualifications - Unconstitutional
    The line item veto for the President - Unconstitutional
    School choice and school vouchers - Unconstitutional

    California is perfect example. The citizens pass props by a 2 to 1 vote and what happens? Some liberal judge finds the prop unconstitutional. Forget what the voters wanted, it all can rest on some "bleeding heart's" bench.

    This is the reason why liberals fought so hard to destroy Alito because the "buck stops" at the Supreme Court and liberals know that. After all, that was their last hope. If anything, the past two confirmation hearings showed the country just how "whacked" liberals have become and how they will stop at nothing to destroy a person.

    It all has become part of the anti-this and anti-that platform of the democratic party...which is NOTHING.
     

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