Democrats and Socialism in Action...too funny and too true!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Midas, Dec 15, 2005.

  1. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Once upon a time, on a nice farm, there was a little red hen who scratched about the barnyard until she uncovered quite a few grains of wheat.

    She called all of her neighbors together and said, "If we plant this wheat, we shall have bread to eat. Who will help me plant it?"

    "Not I," said the cow.
    "Not I," said the duck.
    "Not I," said the pig.
    "Not I," said the goose.

    "Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen. And so she did. The wheat grew very tall and ripened into golden grain.

    "Who will help me reap my wheat?" asked the little red hen.

    "Not I," said the duck.
    "Out of my classification," said the pig.
    "I'd lose my seniority," said the cow.
    "I'd lose my unemployment compensation," said the goose.

    "Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen, and so she did.

    At last it came time to bake the bread.

    "Who will help me bake the bread?" asked the little red hen.

    "That would be overtime for me," said the cow.
    "I'd lose my welfare benefits," said the duck.
    "I'm a dropout & never learned how," said the pig.
    "If I'm to be the only helper, that's discrimination," said the goose.

    "Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen. She baked five loaves and held them up for all of her neighbors to see. They wanted some and, in fact, demanded a share. But the little red hen said, "No, I shall eat all five loaves."

    "Excess profits!" cried the cow.
    "Capitalist leech!" screamed the duck.
    "I demand equal rights!" yelled the goose.
    The pig just grunted in disdain.
    And they all painted "Unfair!" picket signs and marched around and around the little red hen, shouting obscenities. The press showed up to cover the event and asked why the hen had bread and the others none?

    Then a government agent came to the farm. He said to the little red hen, "You must not be so greedy."

    "But I earned the bread," said the little red hen.

    "Exactly," said the agent. "That is what makes our free enterprise system so wonderful. Anyone in the barnyard can earn as much as he wants. But under our modern government regulations and progressive tax system, the productive workers must divide the fruits of their labor with those who are lazy and idle."

    And they all lived happily ever after, including the little red hen, who smiled and clucked, "I am grateful, for now I truly understand, I just been mean, greedy, and insensitve the entire time."

    But her neighbors became quite disappointed in her. She never again baked bread because she joined the "party" and now got her bread for free.

    And all the liberal Democrats smiled.

    'Fairness' had been established. Individual initiative had died, but nobody noticed; perhaps no one cared.....as long as there was free bread that "the rich" were paying for.
     
  2. rambozo

    rambozo New Member

    all i can say that under ideal socialism there would be no lazy and no weak. everyone would work and everyone would payback what has been givin.

    the social pograms for the us work great on paper but they have never been regulated properly.
    i we imade/enforced cutoffs for unemplyment(like 1-2 months)
    mandatory birth control for those on welfare(no more money machines if you know what i mean)
    and do away with S.S once and for all.
    and maybe stop taxing (property,groceries) those over 60 instead of giving them government checks that they get taxed on.
     
  3. Danr

    Danr New Member

    A shorter and more accurate tale.
    There once was a wealthy pig. This pig joined forces with the farmer in a brutal plan to take the tiny amount of hard earned food and shelter the rest of the animals scraped by on. They succeeded in their plan and left everyone destitute,(while they were at it they borrowed a fortune on the other animal's credit just to make sure that their children were destitute also). They then proceeded to engage in a brutal massacre of the animals from the neighboring farms just for fun. The amazing thing is that there were animals on the farm who through all their evil deeds remained blindly loyal to their oppressors.
     
  4. OldDan

    OldDan New Member

    Perhaps your whole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
     
  5. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Come on Dan that little story is pretty good for being off the cuff.
     
  6. Troodon

    Troodon New Member

    True... problem is that ideal socialism can only work with ideal people... who don't actually exist. Ideal socialism will never work because it is contrary to human nature.
     
  7. glaciermi

    glaciermi New Member

    You know your story reminded me of something. In content and in meaning. The difference is when the story was originally told it was through a different shade of glasses. When you read your parable as it was originally told, you can find and see inspiration. Probably the same inspiration that is needed today. It's just that without the same level of deprivation and despair at all levels it looses something. The difference now is a great chasm between the rich and the poor.

    Inaugural Speech of Franklin Delano Roosevelt


    Given in Washington, D.C.


    March 4th, 1933


    Inaugural Address.

    President Hoover, Mr. Chief Justice, my friends: This is a day of national consecration, and I am certain that my fellow Americans expect that on my induction into the Presidency I will address them with a candor and a decision which the present situation of our nation impels.

    This is pre-eminently the time to speak the truth, the whole truth, frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly facing conditions in our country today. This great nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper.

    So first of all let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear. . .is fear itself. . . nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance.

    In every dark hour of our national life a leadership of frankness and vigor has met with that understanding and support of the people themselves which is essential to victory. I am convinced that you will again give that support to leadership in these critical days. In such a spirit on my part and on yours we face our common difficulties. They concern, thank God, only material things. Values have shrunken to fantastic levels: taxes have risen, our ability to pay has fallen, government of all kinds is faced by serious curtailment of income, the means of exchange are frozen in the currents of trade, the withered leaves of industrial enterprise lie on every side, farmers find no markets for their produce, the savings of many years in thousands of families are gone.

    More important, a host of unemployed citizens face the grim problem of existence, and an equally great number toil with little return. Only a foolish optimist can deny the dark realities of the moment.

    Yet our distress comes from no failure of substance. We are stricken by no plague of locusts. Compared with the perils which our forefathers conquered because they believed and were not afraid, we have still much to be thankful for. Nature still offers her bounty and human efforts have multiplied it. Plenty is at our doorstep, but a generous use of it languishes in the very sight of the supply.

    Primarily, this is because the rulers of the exchange of mankind's goods have failed through their own stubbornness and their own incompetence, have admitted their failures and abdicated. Practices of the unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men.

    True, they have tried, but their efforts have been cast in the pattern of an outworn tradition. Faced by failure of credit, they have proposed only the lending of more money.

    Stripped of the lure of profit by which to induce our people to follow their false leadership, they have resorted to exhortations, pleading tearfully for restored conditions. They know only the rules of a generation of self-seekers.

    They have no vision, and when there is no vision the people perish.

    The money changers have fled their high seats in the temple of our civilization. We may now restore that temple to the ancient truths.

    The measure of the restoration lies in the extent to which we apply social values more noble than mere monetary profit.

    Happiness lies not in the mere possession of money, it lies in the joy of achievement, in the thrill of creative effort.

    The joy and moral stimulation of work no longer must be forgotten in the mad chase of evanescent profits. These dark days will be worth all they cost us if they teach us that our true destiny is not to be ministered unto but to minister to ourselves and to our fellow-men.

    Recognition of the falsity of material wealth as the standard of success goes hand in hand with the abandonment of the false belief that public office and high political position are to be values only by the standards of pride of place and personal profit, and there must be an end to a conduct in banking and in business which too often has given to a sacred trust the likeness of callous and selfish wrongdoing.

    Small wonder that confidence languishes, for it thrives only on honesty, on honor, on the sacredness of obligations, on faithful protection, on unselfish performance. Without them it cannot live.

    Restoration calls, however, not for changes in ethics alone. This nation asks for action, and action now.

    Our greatest primary task is to put people to work. This is no unsolvable problem if we face it wisely and courageously.

    It can be accompanied in part by direct recruiting by the government itself, treating the task as we would treat the emergency of a war, but at the same time, through this employment, accomplishing greatly needed projects to stimulate and reorganize the use of our national resources.

    Hand in hand with this, we must frankly recognize the over-balance of population in our industrial centers and, by engaging on a national scale in a redistribution, endeavor to provide a better use of the land for those best fitted for the land.

    The task can be helped by definite efforts to raise the values of agricultural products and with this the power to purchase the output of our cities.

    It can be helped by preventing realistically the tragedy of the growing loss, through foreclosure, of our small homes and our farms.

    It can be helped by insistence that the Federal, State, and local governments act forthwith on the demand that their cost be drastically reduced.

    It can be helped by the unifying of relief activities which today are often scattered, uneconomical and unequal. It can be helped by national planning for and supervision of all forms of transportation and of communications and other utilities which have a definitely public character.

    There are many ways in which it can be helped, but it can never be helped merely by talking about it. We must act, and act quickly.

    Finally, in our progress toward a resumption of work we require two safeguards against a return of the evils of the old order: there must be a strict supervision of all banking and credits and investments; there must be an end to speculation with other people's money, and there must be provision for an adequate but sound currency.

    These are the lines of attack. I shall presently urge upon a new Congress in special session detailed measures for their fulfillment, and I shall seek the immediate assistance of the several States.

    Through this program of action we address ourselves to putting our own national house in order and making income balance outgo.

    Our international trade relations, though vastly important, are, to point in time and necessity, secondary to the establishment of a sound national economy.

    I favor as a practical policy the putting of first things first. I shall spare no effort to restore world trade by international economic readjustment, but the emergency at home cannot wait on that accomplishment.

    The basic thought that guides these specific means of national recovery is not narrowly nationalistic.

    It is the insistence, as a first consideration, upon the interdependence of the various elements in and parts of the United States. . . a recognition of the old and permanently important manifestation of the American spirit of the pioneer.

    It is the way to recovery. It is the immediate way. It is the strongest assurance that the recovery will endure.

    In the field of world policy I would dedicate this nation to the policy of the good neighbor. . .the neighbor who resolutely respects himself and, because he does so, respects the rights of others. . .the neighbor who respects his obligations and respects the sanctity of his agreements in and with a world of neighbors.

    If I read the temper of our people correctly, we now realize, as we have never realized before, our interdependence on each other: that we cannot merely take, but we must give as well, that if we are to go forward we must move as a trained and loyal army willing to sacrifice for the good of Bøê Coêine, becaus =Dêithout such discipline, no progress is made, no leadership becomes effective.

    We are, I know, ready and willing to submit our lives and property to such discipline because it makes possibly a leadership which aims at a larger good.

    This I propose to offer, pledging that the larger purposes will hind upon us all as a sacred obligation with a unity of duty hitherto evoked only in time of armed strife.

    With this pledge taken, I assume unhesitatingly the leadership of this great army of our people, dedicated to a disciplined attack upon our common problems.

    Action in this image and to this end is feasible under the form of government which we have inherited from our ancestors.

    Our Constitution is so simple and practical that it is possible always to meet extraordinary needs by changes in emphasis and arrangement without loss of essential form.

    That is why our constitutional system has proved itself the most superbly enduring political mechanism the modern world has produced. It has met every stress of vast expansion of territory, of foreign wars, of bitter internal strife, of world relations.

    It is to be hoped that the normal balance of executive and legislative authority may be wholly adequate to meet the unprecedented task before us. But it may be that an unprecedented demand and need for undelayed action may call for temporary departure from that normal balance of public procedure.

    I am prepared under my constitutional duty to recommend the measures that a stricken nation in the midst of a stricken world may require.

    But in the event that the Congress shall fail to take one of these courses, and in the event that the national emergency is still critical, I shall not evade the clear course of duty that will then confront me.

    I shall ask the Congress for the one remaining instrument to meet the crisis. . .broad executive power to wage a war against the emergency as great as the power that would be given to me if we were in fact invaded by a foreign foe.

    For the trust reposed in me I will return the courage and the devotion that befit the time. I can do no less.

    We face the arduous days that lie before us in the warm courage of national unity, with the clear consciousness of seeking old and precious moral values, with the clean satisfaction that comes from the stern performance of duty by old and young alike.

    We aim at the assurance of a rounded and permanent national life.

    We do not distrust the future of essential democracy. The people of the United States have not failed. In their need they have registered a mandate that they want direct, vigorous action.

    They have asked for discipline and direction under leadership. They have made me the present instrument of their wishes. In the spirit of the gift I will take it.

    In this dedication of a nation we humbly ask the blessing of God. May He protect each and every one of us! May He guide me in the days to come!​
     
  8. craigG

    craigG New Member

    Your little story just proves why socialism only works under dictatorships. Anyone advocating this type of society should be rode out of the country on a saw blade.

    CraigG
     
  9. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Sweden Norway?
     
  10. craigG

    craigG New Member

    I've never been to Sweden, Norway. Is that like one of Norway's big cities?
    :D
    http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/no.html
    Discovery of oil and gas in adjacent waters in the late 1960s boosted Norway's economic fortunes. The current focus is on containing spending on the extensive welfare system and planning for the time when petroleum reserves are depleted. In referenda held in 1972 and 1994, Norway rejected joining the EU.
    These socialist countries always have problems with their welfare system because nobody wants to work if they don't have to. The only reason your for it is because you are lazy just like them.

    CraigG
     
  11. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Well, as long as we're talking about fictional stories anyway...The season reminds me the a well told story called. "A Christmas Carol". Now scrooge worked hard all his life and earned a pile of money. His partner did the same until his death. As the story goes, Scrooge learns that all the money in the world is worthless unless it is used to help others. This story has everything Christians like, money, after-life, redemption, etc.
    Yet, the point of the story seems quite forgotten by many these days. This country seems to have more tight-fisted screws than Charles Dickens could ever have imagined. What good is working hard and becoming wealthy if you then don't use that money to spread joy?
    God Bless us everyone!
     
  12. craigG

    craigG New Member

    Thanks, Tiny Tim. :D
     
  13. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Have you been talking to my wife?
     
  14. craigG

    craigG New Member

    You mean someone actually married you? :confused: :confused:
     
  15. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    Second generation socialist are spoiled lazy Id centered brats.
    If the whole world became socialist then the human race would cease to exist for socialist are to lazy and spoiled to even have kids.
    Look at the numbers in the entrenched socialist nations of Western Europe and you see a disappearing "native" white population.
     
  16. craigG

    craigG New Member

    Darn right, Andy.
     
  17. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    What is a second generation socialist anyway????? Confusion .......
     
  18. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    The first generation tend to be idealist. The second generation tends to be spoiled upper middle class kids in this nation living off the family welfare. Mom and Dad buy the condo for them, send checks to help pay the bills, buy them their car, etc..
    And the Europeans second and third generation socialist expect a government check for not working or a government protected job with little effort at work. Their time is spent sipping espresso's while sitting on their butt or dancing in the clubs high on escasty. Excuse my spelling of that drug. Children are not in the picture nor is marriage for the most part and it is all about the Id. This is generally speaking of course but the demographics show that the white europeans are disappearing.
     
  19. rambozo

    rambozo New Member

    that sounds a lot like the cities in brave new world anyone read it lately?
     
  20. rambozo

    rambozo New Member

    ***sorry double posted please delete**
     

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