Do you believe in the moon landing?

If as it appears here you guy's can believe that this was a goverment (Some Goverment Agency) fraud that they were willing to kill over then why is it that you find it hard to believe that some Goverment Agency might have concoted 9/11? is it the scale of the deaths involved?
If they could have perptrated such a fraud and a cover up for so long, then why not use Islamic terrorists for there own ends?

I am not saying that this is what happend I am just raising the question

 

The first thing that would pop into my mind would be that I think it would be easier to keep something covered up that was good for one's country (beating the Russians) as opposed to something that harmed one's country (killing thousands of your fellow citizens).

 

Werent there thinking men at the time of these landings? Surely two or three people not involved with NASA had some knowledge of the conditions on the moon. The questions you raise now are not questions that were unthinkable back then. If it was a hoax then someone had to orchestrate it. Who? And the camera men and sound boom operator; they mustve known. What prevented them from exposing this? there were some pretty bright fellas at NASA back then. Didnt they question the space suit durability, among other things?

 

Why would it be easier Stu? so many people would have to be involved, then you would have had all the eastern block spy's looking for secrets and do you think for one moment that if Moscow or Peking ever found out that it was a fraud they woudnt have trumpeted it from the highest towers LOL

 

A lot of people each have a tiny bit of info. They use the "need to know basis" which means that probably fewer than 3 or 4 have the whole picture.

 

And could not the same be said about 9/11? After all how many of the terrorists actualy survived! Do you see the point i am making here?
I am not saying that either actualy happend but simply raising the possibility if one could have happend then why not the other

 

Sure, I am not arguing that. the big difference is that we will know for certain on the moon thing because it will be verifiable with soon to come tech, that is not really the case with 9-11.

 

I am saying it would be easier to keep those involved quiet. In the first scenario, you are a patriot for helping your country defeat the evil Rooskies. In the second, you are what? A traitor to your country. An accomplice to the murder of your fellow citizens.

As far as spies...sure. If they happened to be on the moon at the time or orbiting it or orbiting the Earth. They would have had great proof. LOL

 

Or you think of yourself as a super patriot Stu who is showing the world the true enemy! both points of view are valid, the needs of the many over ride those of the few etc. You dont view yourself in the light of been a traitor to your country instead you view the administration possibly as been inept in realising the threat to the country and you simply highlight it?
Now on the moon job, Russian scientists were far from stupid so any doubt they would have seen it and at that time Russia (Eastern block) would have taken great joy in showing up the US as liars as would I am fairly sure certain western goverments

 

We shot the moon with a missle

Ahh fellas we made it to the moon. Watch the Myth Busters episode where they debunk all of the conspericy mumbo jumbo. Matter of fact we made it to the moon many times. HELL we have now made it to mars, jupiter, saturn, neptune, pluto (obv with satalights) And yes we just shot the moon with a missle. We are even going to build a city there one day.

 

The article in question was written AFTER that mythbusters thingy. The article takes all of the "debunks" and kills them. It is a pretty impressive piece of work, here it is:

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/Apollo1.html

 

Well, if you can find enough psychopaths for the conspiracy, sure. But, mass murderers typically work alone, anyway. Much more of a stretch, I think.

How would they see it? Once you get into space, who has the technology to monitor something like that in 1960's? No one.

 

Stu they woudnt have to see it would they, all they would need would be some of the simpler technology like the schematics for the rover or the landing pod or the space suits, now if non of them were feasable I am fairly certain the Russians would have spotted it after all someone commented that they were years ahead of the USA at that time See this is the fun with conspiracy theory you cant disprove or actualy prove it LOL

 

If they were years ahead....they should have got there first. But I guess we got all the foil for the lunar lander from the Roswell crash so we won. lol

 

So? Tell us. Who are the three or four who knew the whole picture. And how did they put this whole thing together?

 

Read the article, it indicates Kissinger

 

The schematic for the landing pod is in the article! I know I may not be the best or the brightest but based on how small the crew compartment is, I didn't see anywhere NEAR enough space for them to store the rover in.

The give away should be NASA themselves in modern day. They have no idea how to send men to the moon and get them back. You would think they would just modify some of the original equipment to make it safer and just do it.

After all, as you guys say, they went 6 times, practially every 6 months in the 60s. They really had it down for a while to where it was routine. Now it's an impossibility.

 

I am not saying it realy happend or that it did not Vess just asking why people can believe one thing but not another. If you can believe that someone or group of someones within the US goverment could perpitrate something like the moon landings and protect the secret for some 40 plus years quite ruthlessly then why is it also not plausible that someone or a group of someones within the US goverment masterminded the attacks on 9-11 ?
Is it simply the scale of it? I believe it was Gobbles who said something about the larger the numbers the less likely people would be to believe it and he was talking about the Holocaust!
Stu mentioned serial killers been loners but when you thik about it logicly we are not talking about a serial killer we could be talking about people who actualy do believe the ends justify the means, Patriotism is a powerful incentive.
And again I wish to point out that I am not saying that is what happend just asking what if lOL

 

I'm just very skeptical that the technology they were using at that time would have worked so flawlessly from the first try through every mission, without a single man lost.

As far as 9/11 goes, no doubt there are some loose ends that don't make sense to me. I know the vast majority of people shut their minds off and believe the governments official story no matter what they tell them because that's the comfortable bubble they have to live in. But I can't.

As I stated before, Building #7 of the trade tower complex was not impacted by planes, the falling towers, or any major debris. It was a 40 story concrete building. The small buildings at the very foot of the towers were partially damaged but still standing in the aftermath.

Building #7 caught on fire at one end for a couple of hours and the entire footprint collapsed in on itself to dust. I'll believe that building was rigged to go down till the day I die. Therefore, somebody knew something was going to happen. Who knew how much, or how many knew what, will likely never be known. They remain in the shadows. But there's certainly not enough evidence to point a finger at any one person or say they were behind the attacks. It's more likely somebody let it happen and the terrorists carried out their own plan.
Several news reports stated that the CIA was concerned about planes being used as weapons against us several years before the attacks but the reports were primarily ignored.
Maybe Larry Silverstein with his insurance policies that made him a fortune had an early tip off from someone. But it would be just a guess. How do you prove it? Maybe he was just concerned after the attack in 93?

No, the 9/11 story is not nearly as cut and dried as some people would like to think.