Letter to the Forum.

Dear fellow members,

It seems as though some members think my post are intolerant. I have a few thoughts about that.

First, It seems David and a few other members think I am a baby killer, all because they don't know what the hell the definition of "pro-choice" is. I have yet to hear a good argument from these pro-lifers, yet I am the intolerable one.

I hear all this talk from a few members about how life begins at conseption..yet they offer no proof. They say I am ignorant...yet when asked to prove their delusional god, they can't seem to do it. I guess this is the intolerable part. I guess I am supposed to just believe in the first god that is thrown at my face.

I also in another thread was called a "lost soul". Yeah, because I don't have the same beliefs they do, I guess I'm a screwed up mess huh?

Also, I would like to know how I am anything like Aidan...here we have a "catholic" who calls our Mod a dork and another member scottish moaner....doesn't sound like a christain to me....yet I am somehow more of an Aidan then him. all because I am pro-choice and asking people to something that they know they can't do..therefore they do nothing but try to make me look bad. Until David and the other hard-headed religous people on this forum get a decent argument together on ANYTHING, I'd suggest they'd stop arguing.

I have given the evidence on why I think certain ways and why I ask certain questions (IE: the links I provided proving that the Catholic doctrine says all who aren't Catholic will go to Hell), yet it is looked passed and I am appariantly immature for bringing it up.

One last thing...for those of you that are getting sick of my "prove god" posts...then just fulfill my request. Maybe when Hawking and the LHC puts your god in the cemetary with Zeus, Nemrod, and all the other gods that humanity has created..maybe then you will see why you are frustrated with the fact that you can't prove it.



Anthony
AKA
stainless
12/14/08

 

I have no argument at all with the pro-choice folks, in fact , I am pro choice myself.

I believe the woman/girl has the coice to not have sex if she is not ready to be a mother. Or to choose to use a condom, or even birth control pills if need be. She has the choice to totally abstain from sex !!!!! The woman has the choice to not engage in activity's that may end up in pregnancy unless it is a rape. Then I am for aborting the perpetrator !!!!! Midlife late term abortion !!

Save the innocent mother and child tho, they have done nothing to deserve the death sentance.

What gets me, is the " pro choice " gang blabbing about all the " innocent civilians " killed during war. Do you know that more " innocent civilians " are killed in America EVERY DAY than have died in Iraq since 2001?

I dont mean you specifically Stainless, just the left side of the aisle.

I am part of the pro choice crowd !!!!!

I will not delve into the religion part of it.

 

That I can agree..now...how do you suppose we find this perp in many cases...also...their are cases where the perp can't be fully proven guilty...what then?


stainless

 

Don't know where people are linking you to Aidan, but David does impress me as something of an Aidan though. Narrow minded individual that can only belittle others and not really offer substantive argument for his belief.

BTW I miss Aidan - he is an entertaining chap. Little, well significantly so, off of kilter, but humourous when you consider the indignity of his personage.

 

Delusional, hard-headed, frustrated, ignorant, stupid, fanatics and so on. Those are just the terms I have seen you use to describe religion and religious people in some of your posts, including this one. I am sure there are more if I looked. It is the common theme with your posts, in my opinion. And, yes, I think it is similar to Aiden and his intolerance to Catholicism.

 

Can someone give him a tissue?

I'm not going to my argue my religious beliefs with you or anyone else- never have. I have stated what I believe in & I have also stated that you are free to believe whatever you wish. I have never made a post suggesting otherwise...freedom of religion is important to me so your accusations in this regard are off base.
I will repeat though that your perpetual whiny-ness is annoying. Believe what you want- or don't- leave me out of it. My beliefs are my business & why I believe what I do is none of your concern.
Furthermore, I don't necessarily agree that the abortion issue is a religious matter (at least for me) but more of a moral, common-sense thing. I'll go on record again & state that I am not anti-abortion because I'm Catholic. I would see the same horror in taking the lives of innocent babies whether I was Muslim, Jewish, whatever.

 

Fortunately not all Catholics share your narrow minded vision of life. In fact here in the USA I would bet a majority of Catholics do not.

 

So what is my "vision of life"? Could it be that I respect it & don't want it snuffed out? Is it that I don't share your dismissive attitude towards the subject of terminating life? Ohhh, how awful of me to believe life is precious. If that is narrow minded, I wear the tag as a badge of honor.
By the way, 94% of Catholics in the US are against abortion as a means of birth control so check your facts before making such an ill-informed conjecture.
C'mon, what else do you know about me?

 

Excuse you! Where do you get your facts? Like the erroneous statistics on abortion?

If your going to cite statistics like those above, please do include sources for verification. Otherwise I have to believe like murderous Maoris in New Zealand that these statistics are akin to those farcical statements that Aidan used to spout off herein.

 

That's what I thought.

 

See - cannot answer or provide factual information.

 

...and this "fact" comes from where?

 

From being a Catholic and knowing other Catholics. You have not cited sources for your 94% statistic, and I don't believe you can. You pop this nonsense out of your head - must be a tuna fish and cracker and diet soda creation.

 

I gathered my data basically the same way you did but I'll take it one step further. Rather than just "knowing" other Catholics and assuming what they think, I have actually spoken to many. Now what?

 

Answer the freaking question...!!!

Where did you pull this 94% figure from?

I was born, raised, and married in said church, and believe you me, I have not found many people like you - except priests etc. And we all know what they did.

 

How is life precious? It just life. And fetuses arent babies. Do you feel the pain of every person who dies or is killed in the entire world?

 

The only time it is a fetus is when it is aborted. I don't hear a lot of mothers saying "Ooooh. The fetusis kicking." or fathers saying 'I am so happy you are carrying our fetus." or friends saying "How's the fetus?'.

And, truthfully, the only time it is called abortion is when the mother has a doctor take its life. Any other time it is murder, manslaughter, assault, etc.

 

Most abortions that are not a result of criminal misconduct could easily be prevented with birth control.

 

Probably so. But lets not make that decision a criminal act also. Unless youre a screwed up slut who gets hollowed out every time she gets laid, most who get abortions probably have to struggle with making that choice.

 

Foolish child. Don't you understand that the people who think it is okay to take innocent lives use terms like "Pro-choice" & "right to choose" instead of pro-abortion or "fetus" instead of "baby" to remove the reality and humanity from the subject.
You want a good argument? When the egg & sperm unite, life is formed. Simple as that. There isn't some sort of suspended state that comes into play or a waiting period. The life begins at conception, isn't that a scientific fact? It doesn't matter that it doesn't look just like a baby or it can't live outside the womb- it's a life!! If you had any humanity you would see that...1 day, 6 months, 6 years...doesn't matter. A human life is a human life & to snuff out the most innocent is the lowest thing you could do.