The thing that astounded me today

wasn't another mass shooting incident. It was hearing that today was the 45th mass shooting THIS MONTH!


What are we doing to ourselves in this country?

 

all the right wing idiots will tell you it's staged

 

Who in this country thinks that this mass murder on an industrial scale a way forward? This issue alone would make me want the expand the Supreme Court to 13 and do exactly what the SC did decades ago when they reinterpreted the 2nd Amendment. It would be worth it if that one issue went away.

 

fewer and fewer people own guns, I read 78 percent don't. the ones that do tend to be zealots and over own. why do we keep letting 25 percent of the country run it?

 

Are you saying you don't believe in the "good guy with a gun" angle.

One of those good guys died recently in Boulder.

 

the answer is always more guns.

they say an armed society is a polite society...they lied

 

Yeh, that's the ticket. Only cops get guns.

Guns don't kill people.
School children do.
Ban school children.

 

Too many of those died at Sandy Hook.

Or was that a hoax?

 

I suppose that you meant this sarcastically but even sarcasm needs to make some sort of sense.

 

The biggest problem is not the guns, it is the mental health issues of the people that are allowed to purchase them. The Fedex shooter was on the FBI's radar and his mother had been in contact with them last year. Yet he still managed to possess guns even though he was known to be suicidal etc.

 

When you have a society that has unfettered access to weapons of war, you can't arm only the sane people. If you can show me a way to only sell guns to sane people, I'll buy the whole "guns aren't the problem" argument.

For example, the original post referenced 45 mass shootings this month. Did all 45 people have mental health issues. And what does that mean? Did they all have the same mental health issue? Did they have 45 different mental health issues? Were they all clinically diagnosed with mental health issues or was that determined by the mass shootings they carried out? Is this the latest mental health diagnostic tool that we came up with to see who is sane enough to own an assault weapon?

If you think about it, it sounds like any society that uses this method of determining whether or not someone is sane enough to own a deadly weapon, might just have a few mental health issues of their own. Point being, no matter what degree of sanity a person possesses, it's an invisible disease and we will never have the technology to read people's intentions of criminal malice like a PreCog in some dystopian future, so the only possible solution is to limit the types of weapons we can legally own to nonlethal alternatives. This would go along way to also solving the police brutality and straight up murder we see nightly in this country because they wouldn't have to fear for their lives nearly as often if there was less firepower on the streets.

 

Said like a dyed-in-the-wool gun-grabber.

Meanwhile, in Idaho:

"Sixth grade girl opens fire at middle school, injuring 3" | ABC

If only she'd got the psychological counselling she so clearly needed.

 

Armed and dangerous children. What a society we live in. More guns please.

 

Yep, the problem is there was no good sixth grader with a gun there.

 

they say an armed society is a polite society. they lied.

 

When my neighbors home was broken into three years ago, he was out of town. His alarm told him his back door was open. There are ten houses in our neighborhood. Six of us showed up in my neighbors yard with handguns. I went to the back door and loudly announced our presence and awaited the police. They went in to find a teenager looking to steal video games…… Nobody was harmed and I assume the teenage burglar received the help he needed.

Yes, mental health is an enormous issue these days. One only need read some of the posts here to see just how far outside the box that peoples thinking has gone.

We are at an impasse here. At this point criminalizing firearms will only mean the bad guys will have them. Thirty years ago, it mattered not to me as I had no problem holding my own. These days, I do and will continue to carry a handgun for my own protection.

 

You can't arm responsible gun owners without arming the lunatic gun owners. You will end up arming both types of gun owners. There is no way to only arm good guys. What you have to accept is that the price for good guys to own guns is that lunatics will also have access to those sames guns. Is it really worth the costs in human lives that society is paying? I would say that if you said yes to that question, how sane can you really be in the first place? Why aren't these supposedly good guys calling for sane gun laws? Why are they OK being complicit in the carnage? Can owning a gun really be worth all the lost lives? In what world?

 

The problem is…. That door has been open since the start of our nation. Now if gun ownership were criminalized, only the honest people would comply. I am completely frank in saying that I do not like feeling I need to be armed to insure my family’s safety. I very much do not like building schools with hardened areas for study to shelter in the event of a tragedy. But that is the world we have created. We divide people and minimize those that don’t think as we do and then we wonder why so many angry people are going off the deep end….