Liberal vs Conservative

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Moen1305, Jun 2, 2005.

  1. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Now that we've discussed the race issue into the ground, which group do you think coin collectors fall into most frequently, Liberals or Conservatives, Democrats or Republicans, however you want to catagorize the two main political groups in this country? My guess would have to be Conservatives for obvious reasons but that's just my guess. Let the fire works begin :)
     
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  2. nds76

    nds76 New Member

    I don't know one from the other. I don't know what charactaristics determine which you are. So confusing lol!

    David
     
  3. justforthis06

    justforthis06 New Member

    Conservative B-)
     
  4. tcore

    tcore New Member

    I know that some people say this and really aren't, but I really should consider myself to be moderate and right on the line. I go both ways depending on what the issue is.
     
  5. sylvester

    sylvester New Member

    I change with the weather, but generally i fall thusly;

    Economically - i fall just over on the left side of the centre line. I'm not much of a capitalist i'm afraid... not socialist either. I think i'm more old classical liberal on economic lines.

    Socially - depending upon the exact nature of the issue i fall in different places. Religion for example well i'm very open minded on religion thus it doesn't really play an issue in politics for me. Things like crime and punishment i'm way over on the right.

    Other issues i might fall a little to the left on.

    So generally economically i'm just over the left side of the centre line, socially i'm heading to about 1/3rd of the way over the centre line to the right. All in all i think balanced out i'm centrist or just a tad on the right of the line.
     
  6. rick

    rick New Member


    I don't know... we're in a Tornado watch - what does that tell me about your moods?
     
  7. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Lets redirect this thread

    I really hate to quote myself and I'm glad to see this thread back into acceptance, but I didn't really ask what you were personally, I asked which group do you think most coin collects fall into and why would they fall into that group.
     
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  8. sylvester

    sylvester New Member

    Okay, okay...

    I'd say conservatives myself.

    Since everyone's going to the right, it means i get to go to the left just to be different. Plus there's more space over here... :)
     
  9. coin roll guy

    coin roll guy New Member

    I am a christian and Christ said to give unto ceasar that which is ceasar's (Christ used a coin in this parable). This tells me to follow the rulers not to change the rulers.

    Personally I am an extreme consevative except I do not believe in the death penalty or warfare.
     
  10. tcore

    tcore New Member

    Moen1305,

    Sorry about getting off subject there... I think most coin collectors fall into the Conservative group. Generally, numismatists are an older crowd (more conservative than not) as well as coin collectors like money (typically a conservative trait as well ;) ).
     
  11. coin roll guy

    coin roll guy New Member

    Very true tcore
     
  12. Bacchus

    Bacchus New Member

    My observation is that coin collectors tend to be more conservative, or maybe more libertarian, than the public in general.
     
  13. coin roll guy

    coin roll guy New Member

    Bring the youngsters into the coin collecting arena and they will probably be conservative?!!!!;)
     
  14. sylvester

    sylvester New Member

    Not necessarily, though it'd be worth a try just to see how it turns out.
     
  15. GrimReaper

    GrimReaper New Member

    Liberals spend money freely , Conservatives save money , Democrats need money , and Republicans have the money !!!!! :eek: :confused:
     
  16. Bacchus

    Bacchus New Member

    Well, you'd think collecting coins would be saving money, but somehow I always feel like I'm spending money collecting coins ! :)
     
  17. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    My two cents anyway

    My wife has already warned me about spending too much on my collecting hobby. It's only saving money in one sense of the word. Literally saving money. I buy coins from private parties one collection at a time. It can be very expensive to purchase too many entire sets in any given year. I usually have to pass up the heavy gold and silver collections just because of the expense. In the long run, I guess that I am saving money because I have so many coins in reserve that I could sell if I chose to.
    I don't know what this has to do with being personally conservative or liberal but I have met many collectors over the years and they seem to be much more conservative than liberal generally speaking. Nothing wrong with either side of the issue as far as I'm concerned. Just love dem coins.
     
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  18. mmarotta

    mmarotta New Member

    * The authoritarian personality has a hard time imagining other people's attitudes. "Most people..." and "Everyone..." commonly start personal statements. You can hear this in the office when one person asks, "Did you see that show last night?" and other people know which show they mean. "How about that game!" So, people in general tend to group around paradigms. Within the group, collective calls enhance cohesion.

    With that warning, I would say that "most" collectors are conservative -- if that term makes sense any more. We tend to be middle class, white males. We tend to be interested in history as a hobby. The artifacts of history tend to be conservations of cultures whose values continue today as the baseline of modern culture, whether in the USA, Europe, or Asia. We buy and sell for a profit -- for a hobby. Liberals would have a hard time with that.

    However, I must question the unquestioned use of "conservative" and "liberal." Personally, I do not care who you are civilly unioned with. While I acknowledge that church-based education seems more successful than public schooling, I think that there are deeper reasons for that, independent of which religion is being schooled. I do not think that religion per se is the true basis for a moral society. I think that religion supports moral society for other reasons -- when it does... and for other reasons when that fails completely. I am not eager to prevent you from owning a gun, but I do not own one because I believe that violence is the last resort of the incompetent. So, I am not in a hurry to send my neighbors off to kill someone else's neighbors.

    If I were to label myself, I would say, "socially liberal and economically conservative."

    My authoritarian summary is that most thinking people agree with me. :)

    I recommend, instead, a different way to apply labels. Try these "instant political quizzes."

    Standard American version
    http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

    Newer British version:
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,20929,00.html
     
  19. Bacchus

    Bacchus New Member

    Tell that to the fellas whose pictures are on the nickel and quarter.

    And, if someone breaks into my house at night, if I shoot him before he shoots me or my family, it won't be because I'm "incompetent."
     
  20. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Mmarotta

    Now look what you've gone and done...my ears are bleeding :O Interesting thoughts though. I try to avoid over-intellectualizing broad topics such as religion, politics, taxes, the sound of one hand clapping, etc., because at some point you have to bring it all down to a specific point or two for anyone to figure out what the heck your getting at or where it was you just took them. I wasn't satisfied with the composition of the original question initially because I wasn't really attempting to figure out how many folks were from either political persuation. I was wondering whether the hobby drew more people with absolute beliefs or were they more gray thinking animals. I took a couple things for granted such as, most were probably male, middle-aged to older, and probably well-read but not necessarily intellectuals. That left me wondering about which political, personal, socialogical group the fell into most often. Obviously the traits I took for granted could be included in either group. Mostly I've found that people want to tell me what they are personally rather than give me their impression of the collectors that they have met persuing their hobby. Maybe I should have just taken a poll. I guess I feel polls are just too cut and dry and and lack the flavor of more lengthy responses. I have learned a few things and I will keep reading to see what else is out there in coinland. Thanks for your input.
     
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