Interracial Marriage Views

You can add Luis Hamilton ( the Tiger woods of F1 ).

Anyway, I think the world would be a calmer place if the races were a little more intermixed. And even more calm if races and religions would become intermixed. People might think twice about fighting thier own. Mabey not though, some people are not content with peace.

This topic got me thinking about my teenage daughter. I am having a hard time accepting the fact that she is approaching dating age. Iv'e lost a lot of hair in the last couple of years!!
Anyway, what would the fathers here think of thier daughters dating people from other races. I would like to think if he was a gentleman I would not have a problem with it. ( since my daughter won't be dating till she's 21, I guess I won't have to worry about it for a while! )

 

Wow, I feel like I have been part of the conversation while saying nothing for quite a while. If I can just clear up a few points without "baiting" anyone or using somebody else's terms I'd like to give it a shot.

The point I was making with my afore mentioned list was that many, many popularly supported ideas of the time aren't necessarily the right thing to do just because they enjoyed popular support at the time. It was just a random list off the top of my head and even I didn't consider it all that representative of the idea that even though CCTV cameras enjoy a 3-to-1 favorable opinion in this country currently, it isn't necessarily the right thing to do as it may be realized down the line at some point. This was in no way an attempt to "bait" our local bigot because I usually have no idea what he is posting unless someone quotes him. He latched onto the one example from the list that he felt strongly enough to voice an opinion about. There was certainly no baiting involved. The history Bone speaks of has taught me that there is nothing that he has to say that interests me and I put him on my ignore list a while back. Even when I catch a glimpse of his posts due to people quoting him, I try and ignore them because I am not interested in his transparent baiting attempt and his ceaseless attempts to get me and others banned by the moderators for going off on him. The moderators aren't that dumb I know but I see no point in helping to annoy them.

Another point is that the ethnocentric (not copied from Bone) atmosphere prevalent in rural areas of this country fosters the mistrust/suspicion/and to some extent ignorance of minority populations by these almost exclusively white communities. Sure some of these communities have small pockets of Native Americans or Hispanics or whatever, but they are far from being integrated in the larger white community. The perception that minorities are somehow going to shake long held beliefs or reinforce long held prejudices in these communities makes many in those communities uncomfortable. For example, my High School has about 3200 white 10th, 11th, and 12th graders and one foreign exchange student from Malaysia. You can say we were pretty white. We had no concept of race relations nor any knowledge of other races except what we saw on T.V. or in books or learned in school. Of course we were about as ethnocentric as it comes because what else did we know? Rural, sparsely populated white areas tend to be far more racist in their beliefs than either city or suburban dwellers. This isn't new knowledge, it's been this way for as long as anyone can remember. So it isn't unusual to find now that the internet can reach into some of these isolated communities we see more racist attitudes that we normally don't get much exposure to living where we do.

It is a bit shocking none the less to see that this racism still exists and those that adhere to these old concepts state them so unapologetically and even defend the practice of others with similar views. I believe it to be a combination of ignorance and isolation that enables these attitudes to remain alive and well in today's more tolerant society. With the addition of learned family values that pass unbroken from generation to generation it is likely to take many years before we are finally free from these attitudes.

Just out of curiosity though, what makes Bone think Adam and Eve where white assuming of course that they actually existed? Or Jesus for that matter? Ethnocentrism?

 

I guess the reason I asked this question which seems to have been ignored was that I had some Jehovah's witnesses at the door the other day. A nice young woman and her approx. 6 year old adorable son with blond curls and wire rim glasses in a little suit and tie. They were handing out leaflets for a get together at the local convention center and the picture/drawing of Christ on the front of the leaflet was so white looking that you'd swear James Brolin was the model for the drawing. Just how white do the Christians in this country really believe the figures from the Middle East actually were?

 

I think I should clear the air about this reasoning or lack of it. Here in Atlanta I am in the extreme minority at work and it is a many cultured place. What I said in my first post was only hypothetical because of the "De Facto" way it is in the real world. If a black woman cavorts with a white man then the black men want nothing to do with her because she is tainted. Not my own personal belief but here in Georgia if a white woman cavorts with a black man the she is tainted and white men won't have anything to do with her.

Silly, isn't it. A person should be judged by the content of his or her character.

 

As long as it's a free country, everyone gets to make their own decisions about who they will or will not associate with. Character is revealed in many ways and subject to many interpretations. Problems only arise when folks try to interfere physically or even vocally in the affairs of others. So people who date interracially, and people who won't date people who have dated interracially both have the right to do as they wish and just keep their opinions to themselves. It really isn't anyone elses business.

 

Or lack there of! It works both ways.

 

Mr. Dan, when one speaks of character it always means the good side. We do not want to talk about the good devils and bad devils that speak in our ears. Abe Lincoln.

 

Absolute true Cloudy, and when ask, they shouldn't be mad when given an answer they don't like. If they hadn't ask, they would not have been told, as it's no ones business in the first place. Thanks for bringing this point up!

 

I certainly didnt get mad...Remember when you said that although you think people who marry another race deserve to die...it doesnt mean you hate them? When you said they are simple degenerates and their children are poor unintended victims of their ignorant parents who married outside their race? But wishing they were all dead didnt mean you hated them? Well...just because I can see a bigot by his answers to a question...doesnt mean I am mad at him..horrified when he says he is a teacher (questionable at best)? sure...sad that such people are still around? yeah...disgusted at the ignorance...sure...mad? no...curios to find out more as to why you are a bigot...yes. frustrated maybe that I wanted a bit more details about how someone becomes such a disgusting bigot...wanting to learn more as to what makes a bigot...certainly. Your views are much like the KKK's on the subject and I did watch a documentary on that group...are you a member? Its a morbid curiosity. Aiden was more than happy to give detailed info on why he was a bigot...you on the other hand make a series of extremely bigoted statements then crawl in a hole.

I figured it was because...as you say...people who marry outside their race are non-entities...zeros....how can you answer the question of a non-entity?!?!

 

Yawn, "Sticks and Stones..."

 

I agree. And I think that statements like Moen's that automatically attributes this to racism are off the mark assumptions. I don't find anything unusual about folks wanting to associate with people like themselves. If there was only one race, language, and religion in the world, people would still find a way to distinguish themselves and their "group," however they defined it, from others by height, haircolor, clothing, birthplace, or some other factor. When you try to completely homogenize the human race, individuality is lost. I think people will always find a way to resist this because it somehow devalues the individual. So about the best solution that can be hoped for is to just get everyone to mind their own business.

 

what else could you attribute his statements to? It isnt racist to say that people who marry outside ones race should die? Then I guess nazi and the KKK are just normal folks who want to associate with their own race. Nobody made dan answer any questions...he took it upon himself to answer those questions...he could have simply said 'mind your own business'. He answered them with how he truly feels and said he was proud of it...

I simply wanted him to elaborate on why he thought people in mixed marraiges should be killed...what logic he was using...call it morbid curiosity...I didnt think it was asking something out of the ordinary as he is so vocal about his beliefs in most other areas you couldnt pay him to keep his opinions to himself on most issues...

 

I answered "yes," obviously. I didn't think it was worded poorly, though. I took it to mean, "when people of different races marry, I support them and their love for each other."

 

So if it isn't racism to look at a mixed race couples and say they should not be together or even executed solely because they are of different "races", I don't know what else you would need to define it as such. This isn't a case of someone saying that they want to associate only with people of their own "race", it is a case of judging others for their decision to associate with others outside of their own "race". If some asks your views on a topic and you are honest and not just trying to stir up a fight knowing someone on the forum is married to a Middle Eastern woman, you are perfectly within your rights to freely express your opinions bigoted or not. Conversely, people have a right to be appalled by views that are so outside of the mainstream thinking that they become as Dru said, morbid curiosity.

I think our resident crap slinger just says this stuff to get a rise out people but he also believes what he says at the same time. It just makes it that much easier for him to do it again and again if he really believes this BS. I just stopped playing his game a long time ago but some here have not yet learned just to ignore him. Ignoring him is the only act that he can not overcome. Take it from me, he goes looking for other suckers soon enough. At some point he even tries to agree with you to sucker you back in. I don't hate him but I have grown to pity his pathetic existence and need to stir anger in others.

I don't know what the rest of this tangent has to do with the issue.

 

At least nobody here admit being rascist, nobody like each other online - actually wish kill each other through stupid computer to take out of inner aggression. But if you meet real person mabye it not same, maybe might actually be friend. Unless they wrong color ore religion.

But at least there hope in the world, for in Northern Ireland part of Great Britain, troops withdraw because not needed anymore after 38 years of be there stop people kill each other. Peace break out, hope it happen somewhere else now, maybe start of new beginning for world.

Or maybe it take something like USA movie "Independence Day" for people from Cosmos to invade world and make everybody get along.:rolling:

 

Should have kept to only last sentence of whole writing above. It say more than enough.

 

People like Al Sharpton have defined racism many times -- and I suppose he should know since that's his occupation. He defines it as exercising power over someone in a negative way because of their race. He has said many times that if a black person doesn't like whites or if a white person doesn't like blacks, that doesn't rise to the level of racism. A murder would. An internet political chat room comment wouldn't. People can choose to favor or not favor interracial marriage, gay marriage, mixed religion marriage, rich/poor marriage, royal/commoner marriage, and any other combination you can think of. Preferences that you don't agree with don't automatically rise to the level of "racism" or any other politically correct epithet you wish to hurl out there.

 

No, you are wrong...It is still racist...

rac·ism n.

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

where the racism is acted out makes no difference be it on an internet chat room or in person...

If I said on this internet forum:

'I think all N*ggers should be hung'
'I think all Cra*ckers should be shot'
'All Sp*cks should be executed'


Thats is racist by definition...plain and simple regardless of where the person says it.

Also, he has full right to be racist...I simply wanted to learn more about why he is racist...I wont lie and say I am not disgusted by his beliefs, or concerned that he claims he is a teacher...It just makes so little sense to me why one would want to kill people simply for getting married...and he seemed rather unabashed about it I thought he might offer up the inner working of a racist mind

But like he said, there was no need for a poll, there was no question about what he is...

 

I don't much care what Al Sharpton says or believes. He is in the business of race pandering for his own benefit and his bias drives his words. I think the simplest definition of racism is: Discrimination or prejudice based on race. To that I would add the "perception of racial differences" since race is an outdated term that in a mixed culture such as our has little real meaning.

I'll give you one thing though, you are the master of hair splitting when it comes to issues you seem to be uncommitted to. But I guess that beats looking at everything as if it were only black and white, right or wrong.

 

Drusus, just keep in mind that not everyone shares your opinion. I'm inclined to side with Al on this one that racism is related to action, not word or thought.