Headlines, headlines....

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Moen1305, Jul 12, 2007.

  1. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Did you notice that headlines are beginning to appear in the media like "Al-Qaeda rebuilds capabilities", and "Homeland Security Chief has gut feeling U.S. attack is imminent this summer"? Nothing specific but just enough to heighten the fear level. Keep an eye out for more nondescript news stories involving attacks and terrorism. Keeping the fear level high is necessary to maintain control of public opinion. Bush wants to go out on a high note.

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  2. Treashunt

    Treashunt New Member

    Impossible.

    The only high note would be taps.
     
  3. Drusus

    Drusus New Member

    well...to read the article I read (which you dont site)...its not a general headline...pakistan has signed a peace agreement with tribal leaders in afghanistan and have done almost nothing to stop the flow of support to the taliban...

    So its probably very true that the taliban and Al-Qaeda are recovering. Whether one likes to admit it or not, this means that most likely they will attack again as they DO hate the US and want to destroy us.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070712/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_terror_threat

    The conclusion suggests that the network that launched the most devastating terror attack on the United States has been able to regroup along the Afghan-Pakistani border despite nearly six years of bombings, war and other tactics aimed at crippling it.

    Counterterrorism analysts produced the document, titled "Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West." The document focuses on the terror group's safe haven in Pakistan and makes a range of observations about the threat posed to the United States and its allies, officials said

    "They seem to be fairly well settled into the safe haven and the ungoverned spaces of Pakistan," Kringen testified. "We see more training. We see more money. We see more communications. We see that activity rising."

    "Sooner or later you have to quit permitting them to have a safe haven" along the Afghan-Pakistani border, he told the House committee. "At the end of the day, when we have had success, it is when you've been able to get them worried about who was informing on them, get them worried about who was coming after them."
    Several European countries — among them Britain, Denmark, Germany and the Netherlands — are also highlighted in the threat assessment partly because they have arrangements with the Pakistani government that allow their citizens easier access to Pakistan than others, according to the counterterrorism official.


    The threat assessment says that al-Qaida stepped up efforts to "improve its core operational capability" in late 2004 but did not succeed until December of 2006 after the Pakistani government signed a peace agreement with tribal leaders that effectively removed government military presence from the northwest frontier with Afghanistan. The agreement allows Taliban and al-Qaida operatives to move across the border with impunity and establish and run training centers, the report says, according to the official.

    I have seen documentaries about this border, there is nothing keeping huge amounts of supplies and people from going across it...the border between afghanistan and pakistan is wide open....
     
  4. OldDan

    OldDan New Member

    Wow! If it were you, would you be talking safety and expecting something to happen by talking to a House committee? What will they do, ask a few terrorists to come in and explaiin themselves?
     
  5. AdamL

    AdamL New Member

    Wow. There are actually headlines about someone's gut feeling??? Ridiculous.
     
  6. bqcoins

    bqcoins New Member

    I would conclude that it is just the media stirring up the fear pot for ratings, readership, etc.
     
  7. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    So it was the media that put the words in Chertoff's mouth? Or was it the U.S. intelligence analysts that secretly work for the media stirring things up? What was it that brought you to your conclusion anyway. I might want to drink some of that...



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  8. Drusus

    Drusus New Member

    people will blame the media until they agree with what they media is saying :)
     
  9. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Fear makes the population more docile. It is a very cynical (even evil) manipulation.
     
  10. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Good, bad or otherwise...the fact of the matter is that islamic terrorism is NOTHING new. Islamic conquest and terrorism has been around since their terrorist prophet came out of the cave in a stupor and told his employer (His lover 15 years his senior) that he spoke to allah.

    Get real...

    The big differance is that islamic jihadists have more and better weapons today over the days when mohammad's men went tent to tent and commanded arabs to convert to islam...or else!

    BTW... this is as per their koran...and these islamic animals are NOT afraid to use their new found weapons. Smart weapons!?! NEVER!! Islamic animals want to kill as many as possible...for their allah!

    Bush is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't because you know that appeasers like you would be the first in line to butcher Bush if another terrorist attack took place on U.S. soil. So Bush has the guts to have our troops KILL these islamic animals in their backyard instead of waiting for the next attack here.

    Couple that with the fact that 26% of islamic male animals in this country (aged 18 to 40) believe suicide bombing are justified is another message that all Americans should be paying attention to!

    Appeasers have no patience. The cold war lasted almost 50 years and islamic jihad has been occuring for the last 1,400 years! Now, this islamic jihad has occured on OUR soil and appeasers like you don't get it.

    This islamic jihad has been occuring well before Bush, well before the start of our country, and guess what you gutless appeaser...it will occur well after!

    So get used to it...islam IS what it IS...always has and always will be and yes, we have to watch these S.O.B.'s and kill them before they turn on us!
     
  11. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 New Member

    "This islamic jihad has been occuring well before Bush, well before the start of our country, and guess what you gutless appeaser...it will occur well after!"

    I believe Midas just admitted that he believes Islam will conquer the US.

    "Appeaser" seems to be a word that war-lovers enjoy using. Nothing would upset them more than a negotiated peace even though this practice has been common for thousands of years. Nope. It's gotta be a fight to the death with nobody left alive to satisfy these "disappeasers." How they love death!
     
  12. Drusus

    Drusus New Member

    I agree that there are terrorist muslims out to destroy the US...I dont think they will succeed. I agree that there are groups out there plotting as I type this to kill Americans...I even agree that most likely the article is not just empty fear mongering...I have a feeling the reports are true that Taliban and other terrorists are growing stronger because of Pakistan's leadership and their fear to come down hard on these group.

    for one, half the Pakistani secret service is in their pay and the Taliban was funded and supported by the Pakistani secret service

    for two, musharif is not only in a tenuous position, I dont think he honestly cares...he has received billions to help us, enough money to actual cause a boom in the Pakistani economy...yet his military has APOLOGIZED for strikes against tribal leaders...signed truces with them (these people who are sheltering terrorists)...and if anyone reads the news they know that they have taken credit on the world stage for strikes WE have made that kill terrorists...and blames those who kill innocents on the US. This is a military dictator...but we support him because we know that if there are elections, the new man will not lay down for us...or at least pretend to.

    for three...the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan is wide open...truck loads of gold, silver, cloths, blankets, guns, ammo, and food cross unchecked every day...this is on tape...this is just the truth...these trucks are going to help terrorists and the Taliban...and if there is a group in Islam that needs to be destroyed, its the Taliban.

    So I agree that most likely, common sense will tell anyone that any terrorist or Taliban are only growing stronger the more time that goes by there... we should have kept saddam contained and moved ALL our forces onto the Pakistan / Afghanistan border and moved into the tribal to kill the real perpetrators of 9/11...

    No, all of islam is not the problem...but there is a problem with those who use it for an excuse to kill...Its just disturbing to see someone calling them all animals (as disturing as seeing them calling jews animals) but I do consider the source. there are millions of peaceful family men and women and children who have nothing to do, and never had anything to do, with terrorism...It solves nothing...But I think most people see such rhetoric for what it is...
     
  13. AdamL

    AdamL New Member

    disappeasers?? I like that!
     
  14. Midas

    Midas New Member

    First...these people are following islam as mohammad intended. It is the duty of EVERY "true" muslim to convert, enslave, tax and/or FIGHT infidels. Moderate muslims or those "not muslim enough" are hijacking this religion, not the other way around. People that follow islam as per the koran have, are, and will always be our enemy. History and the actions of "true" muslims make this very clear!

    Two...with reports on how many muslims believe that suicide bombings are justified (26% of AMERICAN muslim men aged 18 to 40) and those throughout the muslim world who support Bin Laden, this is not just a "handful" of islamic terrorist animals, there are MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of them!

    Three...think back to Nazi Germany Well guess what? I am sure that not every German was a hardcore Nazi, but we did what we had to do to KILL and DESTROY this madness...so we defeated the entire country...not just the SS who followed Hitler to their graves, but all of Germany and ALL of those Germans that told our troops they were not Nazis's as the ovens from their death camps bloomed down the road.

    People tht follow "true" islam are right in step with Nazi Germany of 1938 before the war broke out:

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  15. SanMiguel

    SanMiguel New Member

    it's supposed to be a great honor to die a martyr, but they still run and hide in the bushes after lobbing mortars at us. we'd both get what we want if only they'd stay still!

    as far as headlines, check out the front page of the stars & stripes a few days ago, and read the full story on page 5.
    http://estripes.osd.mil/bin/download.php?filename=MID20709&edition=mideast
    so much for progress/making good use out of troop surges & deployment extensions...
     
  16. Drusus

    Drusus New Member


    you are wrong midas...and I think people see you for what you are you you arent as scary as you were when I first saw your hate rhetoric...you are a person who is obsessed and dont see, or refuses to see that not all muslims practice islam the same way as these terrorists...I have said it a million times but just one last time...just like the bible has a lot of bad bits, so does the koran...its all in how you choose to follow it...million choose to follow the koran is a way that doesnt not require one to be a martyr, a killer, and or to convert.

    You are just plain wrong and the sooner you realize this, the sooner you will stop sounding like a nazi or one of these terrorists calling all jews animals...just think about how disgusting it is to hear a muslims calling all jews pigs and animals...that is what you sound like, and you are just as correct.

    We know there is terrorism, we dont need daily updates from you...we have eyes and ears and can see these things for ourselves...you arent teaching anyone anything and you obviously are in no position to teach anything, you are just making yourself look bad with your hate rhetoric...nothing will stop you obviously...good luck with it though...
     
  17. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 New Member

    Drusus, you are correct.
     
  18. OldDan

    OldDan New Member

    Promises, promises, promises! You say it but you don't mean it!
     
  19. Drusus

    Drusus New Member

    was that stupid jab really worth hitting reply?
     
  20. OldDan

    OldDan New Member

    guess you will have to ask yourself that question!
     

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