why do people think bush is evil?

just wondering why some people think that he is evil,or hitler, or anyhting else. what does he do that is so bad that makes him diffrent from any other ruler throughout history.

 

Um lets see he sticks up for his Country, man you cant do that No you have to sit back nd allow all other Countries to walk all over you and then there are the poor little Terrorists!! He goes and lockes them up in a camp and has been know to even authorise the KILLING of some :rolling:
Yes you can tell from this he is obviously a evil man.

De Orc

 

thats what im talkin about. in this war/police action(what ever you want to call it) this country has shown so much self restraint compaired to past wars we have been in. wwii (where the president wasnt evil) we would carpet bomb intire cities just to hit a few strong points. im tired of hearing about the poor iraqi children, if this was china or russia fighting this war intire populations would be lost.

 

Correct but the problem is that People dont expect the USA to react (Why ever not I dont know) so when they do it has to be bad! If there is a drought and you give aid, are you thanked? Nope you are chastised for not doing enough LOL I have to say the sooner you Yanks learn that you cant win and say 'Sod Public Opinion' the better for you.

You are damed no matter what you do mate.

De Orc

 

MANY believe he and the Bush mafia brought down the towers.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose change&hl=en

 

and MANY believe in santa clause

 

this is just cut and paste but this short list has a few of the problems (this is the tip of the iceberg):

100 Mistakes for the President to Choose From

May 3, 2004





During a prime time press conference on April 13, President Bush was asked to name a mistake that he has made since taking office and what he has learned from it. Bush, who was unable to answer the question, admitted "maybe I'm not as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with [a mistake]." But weeks later, Bush still hasn't answered the question. In the interest of assisting the President with this surprisingly difficult task we've compiled this list of 100 mistakes he has made since taking office:

1. Failing to build a real international coalition prior to the Iraq invasion, forcing the US to shoulder the full cost and consequences of the war.

2. Approving the demobilization of the Iraqi Army in May, 2003 – bypassing the Joint Chiefs of Staff and reversing an earlier position, the President left hundreds of thousands of armed Iraqis disgruntled and unemployed, contributing significantly to the massive security problems American troops have faced during occupation.

3. Not equipping troops in Iraq with adequate body armor or armored HUMVEES.

4. Ignoring the advice Gen. Eric Shinseki regarding the need for more troops in Iraq – now Bush is belatedly adding troops, having allowed the security situation to deteriorate in exactly the way Shinseki said it would if there were not enough troops.

5. Ignoring plans drawn up by the Army War College and other war-planning agencies, which predicted most of the worst security and infrastructure problems America faced in the early days of the Iraq occupation.

6. Making a case for war which ignored intelligence that there were no Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq.

7. Deriding "nation-building" during the 2000 debates, then engaging American troops in one of the most explicit instances of nation building in American history.

8. Predicting along with others in his administration that US troops would be greeted as liberators in Iraq.

9. Predicting Iraq would pay for its own reconstruction.

10. Wildly underestimating the cost of the war.

11. Trusting Ahmed Chalabi, who has dismissed faulty intelligence he provided the President as necessary for getting the Americans to topple Saddam.

12. Disbanding the Sunni Baathist managers responsible for Iraq's water, electricity, sewer system and all the other critical parts of that country's infrastructure.

13. Failing to give UN weapons inspectors enough time to certify if weapons existed in Iraq.

14. Including discredited intelligence concerning Nigerian Yellow Cake in his 2003 State of the Union.

15. Announcing that "major combat operations in Iraq have ended" aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln on May 1, 2003, below a "Mission Accomplished" banner – more U.S. soldiers have died in combat since Bush's announcement than before it.

16. Awarding a multi-billion dollar contract to Halliburton in Iraq, which then repeatedly overcharged the government and served troops dirty food.

17. Refusing to cede any control of Post-invasion Iraq to the international community, meaning reconstruction has received limited aid from European allies or the U.N.

18. Failing to convince NATO allies why invading Iraq was important.

19. Having no real plan for the occupation of Iraq.

20. Limiting bidding on Iraq construction projects to "coalition partners," unnecessarily alienating important allies France, Germany and Russia.

21. Diverting $700 million into Iraq invasion planning without informing Congress.

22. Shutting down an Iraqi newspaper for "inciting violence" – the move, which led in short order to street fighting in Fallujah, incited more violence than the newspaper ever had.

23. Telling Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan about plans to go to war with Iraq before Secretary of State Colin Powell.

24. Allowing several members of the Bin Laden family to leave the country just days after 9/11, some of them without being questioned by the FBI.

25. Focusing on missile defense at the expense of counterterrorism prior to 9/11.

26. Thinking al Qaeda could not attack without state sponsors, and ignoring evidence of a growing threat unassociated with "rogue states" like Iraq or North Korea.

27. Threatening to veto the Homeland Security department – The President now concedes such a department "provides the ability for our agencies to coordinate better and to work together better than it was before."

28. Opposing the creation of the September 11th commission, which the President now expects "to contain important recommendations for preventing future attacks."

29. Denying documents to the 9/11 commission, only relenting after the commissioners threatened a subpoena.

30. Failing to pay more attention to an August 6, 2001 PDB entitled "Bin laden Determined to Attack in U.S."

31. Repeatedly ignoring warnings of terrorists planning to use aircraft before 9/11.

32. Appointing the ultra-secretive Henry Kissinger to head the 9/11 commission – Kissinger stepped down weeks later due to conflicts of interest.

33. Asking for testimony before the 9/11 commission be limited to one hour, a position from which the president later backtracked.

34. Not allowing national Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice to testify before the 9/11 commission – Bush changed his mind as pressure mounted.

35. Cutting an FBI request for counterterrorism funds by two-thirds after 9/11.

36. Telling Americans there was a link between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda.

37. Failing to adequately secure the nation's nuclear weapons labs.

38. Not feeling a sense of urgency about terrorism or al Qaeda before 9/11.

39. Reducing resources and troop levels in Afghanistan and out before it was fully secure.

40. Not providing security in Afghanistan outside of Kabul, leaving nearly 80% of the Afghan population unprotected in areas controlled by Feudal warlords and local militias.

41. Committing inadequate resources for the reconstruction of Afghanistan.

42. Counting too heavily on locally trained troops to fill the void in Afghanistan once U.S. forces were relocated to Iraq.

43. Not committing US ground troops to the capture of Osama Bin Laden, when he was cornered in the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan in November, 2001.

44. Allowing opium production to resume on a massive scale after the ouster of the Taliban.

45. Opposing an independent inquiry into the intelligence failures surrounding WMD – later, upon signing off on just such a commission, Bush claimed he was "determined to make sure that American intelligence is as accurate as possible for every challenge in the future."

46. Saying: "We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories."

47. Trusting intelligence gathered by Vice President Cheney's and Secretary Rumsfeld's "Office of Special Plans."

48. Spending $6.5 billion on nuclear weapons this year to develop new nuclear weapons this year – 50% more in real dollars than the average during the cold war – while shortchanging the troops on body armor.

49. Ignoring the importance of the Middle East peace process, which has deteriorated with little oversight or strategy evident in the region.

50. Siding with China in February, 2004 against a democratic referenda proposed by Taiwan, a notable shift from an earlier pledge to stand with "oppressed peoples until the day of their freedom finally arrives."

51. Undermining the War on Terrorism by preemptively invading Iraq.

52. Failing to develop a specific plan for dealing with North Korea.

53. Abandoning the United States' traditional role as an evenhanded negotiator in the Middle East peace process.

54. Signing a report endorsing outsourcing with thousands of American workers having their jobs shipped overseas.

55. Instituting steel tariffs deemed illegal by the World Trade Organization – Bush repealed them 20-months later when the European Union pledged to impose retaliatory sanctions on up to $2.2 billion in exports from the United States.

56. Promoting economic policies that failed to create new jobs.

57. Promoting economic policies that failed to help small businesses

58. Pledging a "jobs and growth" package would create 1,836,000 new jobs by the end of 2003 and 5.5 million new jobs by 2004—so far the president has fallen 1,615,000 jobs short of the mark.

59. Running up a foreign deficit of "such record-breaking proportions that it threatens the financial stability of the global economy."

60. Issuing inaccurate budget forecasts accompanying proposals to reduce the deficit, omitting the continued costs of Iraq, Afghanistan and elements of Homeland Security.

61. Claiming his 2003 tax cut would give 23 million small business owners an average tax cut of $2,042 when "nearly four out of every five tax filers (79%) with small business income would receive less" than that amount.

62. Passing tax cuts for the wealthy while falsely claiming "people in the 10 percent bracket" were benefiting most."

63. Passing successive tax cuts largely responsible for turning a projected surplus of $5 trillion into a projected deficit of $4.3 trillion.

64. Moving to strip millions of overtime pay.

65. Not enforcing corporate tax laws.

66. Backing down from a plan to make CEOs more accountable when "the corporate crowd" protested.

67. Not lobbying oil cartels to change their mind about cutting oil production.

68. Passing tax cuts weighted heavily to help the wealthy.

69. Moving to allow greater media consolidation.

70. Nominating a notorious proponent of outsourcing, Anthony F. Raimondo, to be the new manufacturing Czar—Raimondo withdrew his name days later amidst a flurry of harsh criticism.

71. Ignoring calls to extend unemployment benefits with long-term unemployment reaching a twenty-year high

72. Threatening to veto pension legislation that would give companies much needed temporary relief.

73. Under-funding No Child Left Behind

74. Breaking his campaign pledge to increase the size of Pell grants.

75. Signing off on an FY 2005 budget proposing the smallest increase in education funding in nine years.

76. Under-funding the Title I Program, specifically targeted for disadvantaged kids, by $7.2 billion.

77. Freezing Teacher Quality State Grants, cutting off training opportunities for about 30,000 teachers, and leaving 92,000 less

teachers trained than the president called for in his own No Child Left Behind bill.

78. Freezing funding for English language training programs.

79. Freezing funding for after school programs, potentially eliminating 50,000 children from after-school programs.

80. Not leveling with Americans about the cost of Medicare – the president told Congress his new Medicare bill would cost $400 billion over ten years despite conclusions by his own analysts the bill would cost upwards of $500 billion over that period.

81. Silencing Medicare actuary Richard Foster when his estimates for the Administration's Medicare bill were too high.

82. Letting business associate David Halbert, who owns a company which stands to make millions from new discount drug cards, craft key elements of the new Medicare bill.

83. Underfunding health care for troops and veterans.

84. Allowing loopholes to persist in Mad-Cow regulations.

85. Relaxing food labeling restrictions on health claims.

86. Falsely claiming the restrictions on stem cell research would not hamper medical progress.

87. Reducing action against improper drug advertising by 80 percent.

88. Abandoning the Kyoto Treaty without offering an alternative for reducing greenhouse effect.

89. Counting on a voluntary program to reduce emissions of harmful gasses—so far only a tiny fraction of American companies have signed up.

90. Gutting clean air standards for aging power plants.

91. Weakening energy efficiency standards.

92. Relaxing dumping standards for mountaintop mining, and opening the Florida Everglades and Oregon's Siskiyou National Forest to mining.

93. Lifting protection for more than 200 million acres of public land.

94. Limiting public challenges to logging projects and increased logging in protected areas, including Alaska's Tongass National Forest.

95. Weakening environmental standards for snowmobiles and other off-road vehicles while pushing for exemptions for air pollution proposals for five categories of industrial facilities.

96. Opposing legislation that would require greater fuel efficiency for passenger cars.

97. Reducing inspections, penalties for violations, and prosecution of environmental crimes.

98. Misleading the public about the Washington mad cow case and the likely effectiveness of USDA's weak testing program.

99. Withdrawing public information on chemical plant dangers, previously used to hold facilities accountable for safety improvements.

100. Cutting grants to state and local governments in FY 2005, forcing states to make massive cuts in job training, education, housing and environment.

 

oh, BTW

 

I thought I recognized your source of information and was just wondering if it wouldn't have been a lot simpler to have just posted this web site: http://www.americanprogressaction.org/site/pp.asp?c=klLWJcP7H&b=118262

Here is a little more of the same place and you are free to use any or all of he information that pleases you.
http://www.americanprogressaction.org/site/pp.asp?c=klLWJcP7H&b=83327&lftnav=aboutus

These people just don't stop at posting all this data, they also attempt to draw down big buck for their efforts from their fans/ followers. We have concluded this is full of those who would do anything and everything possible to gain power and take control of this country. Here they are for all to identify: http://www.americanprogress.org/

I'm sorry to report that this group must be who Danr represents and takes his marching orders from. HE sure had me fooled, because I thought that he was coming up with these ideas and not just echoing them for this organization.

 

My God are you telling me that Danr is incabable of coming up with a idea that is not 'CUT & PASTE' and also on one of the other comments above Santa is REAL OK :goofer:

De Orc

 

There are those who are so rabid in their liberal thoughts and ideas that it doesn't matter who is in power as long as it is a republican/conservative/christian/anyone who doean't agree with them that they will attack with hate. Remember a Liberal believes that they are tolerant of everything, except for the fact that they are intolerant of anyone who disagrees with them and accuse them of being bigoted, close-minded, racist, etc.

 

Very True, Very True...

Ben

 

slow down there big fella. All I could get from that is liberal bad conservative goooood

 

Sort of a milder version of the Muslim beliefs. Now we know why they defend them so much.

 

Hopefully Bush is not molesting teenage boys at Congress, like Congressman of Florida.

 

Not what I said, I said there are some, not all. A small minority of liberals however, have given the entire party of the Democrats bad publicity with their brand of fanaticism. This does not mean that all dems are bad and should be ignored. I myself have some very good freinds that are very liberal, and we share some very good times trying to convince each other of our rightness and persuade each other on various arguments. None of the dems I know are screaming that bush is a killer and a monster, however, they have well thought out valid disagreements with some of his policies, like I do. One man can not please all of the people all of the time, but that doesn't mean its okay to spew the vitriol of hate.

 

A very mature approach to the problem, and one that I can appreciate and understand. As for 'Good' Democrats there many such people, and most of them are represented by these good folks:
http://www.house.gov/cardoza/BlueDogs/bluedogs.shtml

As you read through the list of members you will notice that there are few if any on the 'leadership' rolls of the Democratic party. The Party has been high jacked by a bunch of turn-coats and no one else can get a word in edge wise. Well, that is my oppinion any way.

 

Instead of being recognition of different opinion in political matters in USA, there is good guy, bad guy syndrome. Everybody think they the good guy, and different opinion is bad guy. Problem is, nobody right in overall - maybe more like all there bad guys.

 

You and I both know that you can't be right 100% of the time, and still be productive, so that is a given. As for good and bad guys, I would like to think there are both good and bad guys involved in most of the activities we have been discussing. Both here and in Russia there are those who are right most of the time. There are those who are listened to and who make decissions. Too bad these aren't the same person I'm talking about each time, but hey, you can't be right ever minute...can you?

 

Russia was right when it not said so in West for instance islamic terrorists of Afghan. Maybe instead of helping these b@st@rds West could have help send them to 72 virgins of hell.

Aside, I view politics as too much of b.s. and not enough of subtance which help people. There too much talk in USA of gay congressman, and of what Bush knew or not, ; and not enough about USA debts, trade deficits of threat to world economy, civil war of Iraq etc.