Man Shoots Own Son. All Too Often the Result of Gun Ownership

NEW FAIRFIELD, Conn. — During what appeared to be an attempted late-night burglary, a man fatally shot a masked teenager in self-defense outside his neighbor's house and then discovered it was his son, state police said.
Spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance said Friday that police are trying to determine if the gun used by Jeffrey Giuliano, the father, was registered. It will be at least a week before the probe is done, he said.
Police said 15-year-old Tyler Giuliano was shot at about 1 a.m. Thursday in New Fairfield, a town along the New York line just north of Danbury.
A woman who was alone in the home believed someone was breaking in and called the teen's father, who lives next door, state police said. The father grabbed a gun and went outside to investigate, troopers said.
The father confronted someone wearing a black ski mask and black clothing and then fired his gun when the person went at him with a shiny weapon in his hand, police said.
When police officers arrived, the teen was lying in the driveway of the woman's home with gunshot wounds and the father was sitting on the grass. The teen was pronounced dead at the scene, police said.
"All in all it's a tragedy," Vance said.
The teen's father, Jeffrey Giuliano, a fifth-grade teacher in town, hasn't returned a message seeking comment on what happened.
The teenager was a student at New Fairfield High School, a short walk from the neighborhood where he was killed.
Superintendent of Schools Alicia Roy sent parents an email about what happened, The News-Times of Danbury reported.
"Our district has experienced a tragedy that has affected us deeply," she wrote, adding that students weren't told of the killing because all the facts weren't clear.
No charges have been filed. An autopsy on the boy is planned.

The guy should be in prison and given a box of sharp objects, poisons, and variety of ropes. People this stupid shouldn't be allowed to stay on the earth.

 

This whole story is @#$%^&-up, from beginning to end. So many bad decisions were made. The first is the son apparently attempting to enter the neighbor's home while hiding his face. My guess is he was hopped-up on something, 'cause any burgler worth his salt knows not to rob his neighbor's home. I repeat (for the you know whos), I am guessing here, so don't be stupid and question me over and over and over for next three years on whether or not I slandered the kid.

I'd like to know whether or not the neighbor called the police too, and if she did that before or after calling the kid's father. I'd also like to know her reasoning, though it's pretty safe to say she felt he could protect her faster than any police officer could. Still, I'd like to hear her story.

The father may have used an unregistered gun? Is he stupid? Yes, he is. When you bring a gun with you to confront a burglar, for @#$%'s sake, don't use the unregistered one! Sheesh!

That the kid is said to have went at him is questionable. I have serious doubts about the father's story, on whether or not the kid did any such thing. That said, he may have if he was hopped-up on something, or didn't recognize his father, or hated his father.

@#$%^&-up all around, I'd say.

 

Why are you calling the father "stupid"? The article said the man confronted someone wearing black clothing, a black ski mask and "went at him with a shiny weapon in his hand".

There's nothing tragic about defending one's life or property. The tragedy lies in the fact that the father killed his own son. The "stupid" person in this scenario appears to have been the son, not the father.

 

I want to take a stab at this, so forgive my intrusion.

It's unclear yet if the father was or wasn't at this point, though Joe probably would say just bringing the gun was enough (I wouldn't agree with that).

If the gun was unregistered, that could qualify. It hasn't been made clear yet though whether or not it was.

I question the events, as told by the father. If one supposition is correct, that the father shot the burglar not in self defense (as claimed), but for another reason, that may also qualify. It's unlikely the man would be charged though, for lack of witnesses or other evidence to the contrary.

If you are curious as to what other reason the man could possibly have, I can go further...but as I said, it's unlikely to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in court, so the point is rather moot.

 

Exactly. Wear a ski mask, black clothing and point a shiny weapon at me and your head will disapear from your neck. And this has zero to do with gun ownership. Only a freakin moron would say so.

 

A moron DID say so.

 

Going off what is relayed in the copy and paste...

For the family, it sounds like a personal tragedy. For the rest of the world, it sounds like an armed home invasion (burglary? rape? murder?) was prevented.

 

Too many factors here at this point but look at another scenario.

Neighbor calls and you bravely jaunt into the night, piece in hand and get YOUR effin head blown off because you really have no clue what you're walking into.

So much for bravado.

Sorry. I like my neighbor but I love my wife and would prefer to not leave her a widow. For both of our sakes.

 

The only reason I posted this was to watch the gun crowd defend another happy triggered adult killing yet another kid and in this instance, his own kid. You guys never disappoint. How many times will you guys defend children being murdered by men with guns and still see no problem with guns in society? I guess we'll find out because I intend to post every story I find. The rationales are quite entertaining.

 

You need to take a remedial reading course. No one here is defending the killing of "yet another kid".

 

Would I do what that guy did? No. Probably illegal to go a huntin' bad guys in Illinois anyway. Probably life in prison for an unregistered weapon to go along with it. Chicago Rules.

As you allude to...me and mine first as far as families go. But, I do think it is hard to call it a tragedy from a perspective other than the father's. At least as far as the info in the copy and paste goes. Who knows what the full story is but even John Wayne Gacy had a mom and dad.

 

I get what you're saying Stu. A family tragedy big time.
We'll never know the whole story with the kid dead.

For the record (but I think most of you know this already) I am not anti-gun. Don't particularly like them but have no problem with folks owning them.
I own one myself for home protection.

To me a situation like that can be, and was, a tragedy waiting to happen that happened.

In my neck of the woods the chances are probably a bit higher that if someone is prowling around they just may be armed. We have our share of gangs around here.
So I'm not waltzing out into the night gun in hand.

On the other hand if you attempt to get into MY house you just might hear the sound of a shotgun being pumped. That would be me.

 

We see the problems with irresponsible gun ownership, but we've come to accept that it can't be fixed. You'd have more success making a fish perform brain surgery. Hey! You could "ask" for some Republican "volunteers"! My kid has a "volunteering" bat you could borrow.

It's not what you think, I just really hate long lines and only use it to "ask" people to "voluntarily" move aside. They'll be fine. (to people on floor) Walk it off. And thanks, it's always nice to see volunteering.

Oh, come on! It's a plastic bat!

 

Now....What if I were to post a link to a " Mothers backs car up and kills infant "......AND said happens all too often, or lumped all drivers in with that? I'd look pretty foolish right?

Mr Nation, Who did you accidentily kill in your lifetime? What explains your intense fear of firearms ? I got a call from a friend in IL that said you accidently shot someone a few years ago......Words out. Your a killer by accident. That explains everything .

 

More folks die in car accidents than accidental shootings. Medical mishaps account for more deaths than accidental shootings......on and on and on. Maybe we should ban cars and close all hospitals ? LMAO

http://www.politifact.com/florida/s...aims-more-die-accident-medical-misadventures/

 

The car accident vs gun death comparison is like saying 100% of all divorces start with a marriage. While being absolutely true, the one statistic hardly sheds light on the whole story. The fact is while car accident deaths have continued to drop over the years through both insurance companies and government safety initiatives like seat belts, airbags, and car frame modifications, gun deaths over the same period have continued to increase. You can't be simple-minded and look only at one aspect of two things are a drawing a direct comparison to or you end up buying into statistical fiction. In other words, if you want to end divorce in this country, simply end marriages. That would be the wrong conclusion to draw given that the only statistic you considered was the divorce rate.

I have said countless times how many guns I grew up around and I have also explained many times that I never once thought of guns as something that made me psychologically a few inches taller, or more macho, or tougher, nor were they a form of protection from people that would try do me harm. The old west was on TV not outside my front door. Jack your wild theories about my past traumas are quaint but founded pretty much in your own rationalizations and projections.

If I had to indulge in the same wild fantasies you do I'd have to ask you what scared you so badly that you felt the need to arm yourself beyond the actual threat posed by other human beings? Or is it just that Fox News has succeeded in scaring you that badly? If fear can be attributed to either situation, yours or mine, doesn't the guy who has to be armed to the teeth in order to sleep at night sound like the one with the greatest amount fear? I'll tell you what, take all your weapons over to a friends house and leave them for a month and see how many times you feel anxious about not having them around. That'll tell you which one of us is operating on fear. If you don't mind, I'll keep my dogs.

 

The car accident/gun shooting comparison ignores a basic truth. While some gun deaths are truly accidental, most are intentional. It's a lot more easy to point a gun at someone and pull the trigger than it is to run someone down in a vehicle.

 

I would say that is pretty much an obvious truth since well over 50% of gun deaths are suicides. And suicides are intentional...

It is hard to find solid numbers but, from a quick look, it looks like one can say about 17,000 gun suicides a year, about 12,000 gun homicides a year and about 700 gun accidental deaths a year. Out of about 2,400,000 deaths overall each year. US.

 

Try the CDC website. No guessing necessary.

 

Never mind intentional shootings or suicides, lets just look at homicides and see if cars factor into the equation and just what is the weapon of choice among criminals. Why do you suppose handguns seem to figure in so prominently? Even more prominently than other types of guns. Perhaps because handguns only have on purpose in modern society? We don't seem to be protecting people from guns as much as we are arming criminals. View attachment 618