This is a decent example of why people like you are ridiculed. In the Martin/Zimmerman incident, I expressed the likely events not as fact, but as supposition, and that was clearly stated. Here though, DESPITE THE FACTS NOT BEING KNOWN YET, you claim to know them!
I'm not trying to be a @#$% here, but what do you mean by "apologists"? Other than the claims from the extremist right-wing religious nuts in this country that Obama (and his party) are "apologists", I haven't heard it elsewhere. BTW: In my previous response, although I used the word, I was thinking more in terms of people being "war-mongers" (like coin). You may recall that I've stated my belief that America does not need as many bases as they have, though I do understand some of the reasons why the military would push for more (more efficient War capability, for one). I should add that the belief does NOT include our embassies, even in places such as Libya (but not in places where our ambassadors are likely to be murdered). I'm guessing your belief doesn't include the removal of our embassies, and is more about our military presence around the World. If you include our embassies though, that would make you an "isolationist".
Getting facts straight? Really...this coming from the left? Like the BO admin claiming the Libyan attacks on 9/11 weren't organized terrorist attacks until they admitted maybe they could have been but now they are certain they were? Like getting those facts straight? Give a listen to Robert Gibbs (I heard him on FOX Sunday with Chris Wallace on satellite radio yesterday) trying to justify the WH "evolving" response to the questions concerning the attack on 9/11. The BO admin is nothing but a sad Keystone Cops routine...no wonder so many of the lefties look at comedy skit shows like John Stewart & SNL as legitimate news sources
Oh, really? Let's see what you had to say in an earlier thread. Just how do you know it's A FACT that a 17-year-old male is dead as a result? Please don't give us your opinion or supposition, but give us the FACT.
In what way am I a "war monger"? If you've ever read my posts, you'll notice that I was against the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya. I'm opposed to war in Syria. I'm opposed to war in Iran. If anything, I'm the ANTITHESIS of a war monger. Do you know what "war monger" means? You were a proponent of the war in Libya, so YOU are the war monger here. Man, you can be so dumb. warmonger |ˈwôrˌməNGgər, -ˌmäNG-|nouna sovereign or political leader or activist who encourages or advocates aggression or warfare toward other nations or groups.DERIVATIVESwarmongering noun& adjective
Obama refers to the horrific violence in the Middle East as a "bump in the road": DENVER (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney says he can't imagine calling the killing of a U.S. ambassador a "bump in the road." His comments Monday were veiled criticism of Obama for his comment in an interview broadcast Sunday. In an interview with "60 Minutes," Obama said "there are going to be bumps in the road because ... in a lot of these places the one organizing principal has been Islam." Obama was asked about recent events in the Middle East but not specifically about the attack in Libya that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans. Romney told ABC News that he couldn't "imagine saying something like the assassination of ambassadors is a bump in the road." White House spokesman Jay Carney called the GOP criticism desperate.
Uhm? Where is the supposition? Where is the supposition? Where is the supposition? BTW, my whole and only point in disagreeing with you (and Teddy) in that thread is that you were making conclusions from opinion without any proof.
Your memory is horrible. Just a couple of weeks ago you were all about how we have to save the Syrian people from the same slaughter as the Libyans were facing a year ago (or so)...and you demanded action there too!
Read the entire Martin/Zimmerman thread, then come back and make this same FALSE claim again, please. Thank you.
Wrong! You show me and coin just one of our cited quotes where you, in any way, stated you views were supposition in stead of fact. Just one!
I didn't say "we have to save the Syrian people". I was asking what Obama should do about Syria and trying to elicit opinions. I didn't say we should invade Syria. You're the one who agreed with attacking Libya, you old war monger, you...
Actually, if someone didn't know you, if they didn't know you were being sarcastic when you called for Obama to invade, then they'd have every right to assume you were being sincere.
Is that three or four of my comments you've quoted? Either way, I'll assume they are all from the Martin Zimmerman thread, or at least I'm not objecting to any of them (at this point). I had many more in that thread. I suggest you reread it in it's entirety, if you are serious in any way...and I'm am not convinced you are. Do you want to know why? Again, reread the thread, you'll find we've debated that point several times already, and that you can't admit when you are wrong.
Me reread that thread? Maybe you ought to do so. Just as a for-instance, here are 3 CONSECUTIVE posts of mine telling you to stop drawing conclusions out of nothing.
Would you like a horse to beat? Will it matter to you if it was alive or not? It's been discussed. You can claim what you want, of course, and you do with impunity. The ridiculousness you engage in is legendary. You take an obviously lost "side" of an issue and defend it, for years lol Is this the idea? ...you training yourself in debate? Any other reason is nuts lol
I repeatedly stated in the Martin/Zimmerman thread that I was commenting on what most likely occurred. That is supposition. That you continue to claim otherwise means you are either ignorant, or a @#$%. I would prefer to think of you as simply ignorant, and not a @#$%, but that's my bias...I want to believe people can change this type of behavior in themselves over time.
If the horse wants to fight me, it's gonna lose. I will eat well though afterwards, so I'm not complaining.