Legitimate Rape~~~Ask Todd Akin

So Ryan calls it "Forcible Rape: and Akin calls it Legitimate Rape". Akin gets called on the carpet, Ryan gets to be Mittens's running mate. I suppose you could debate who got the better deal there, but still... The contrast is interesting. Just goes to show you how your choice of words is critical.

 

Nope! "Old men" would qualify as age discrimination. "Old white men" is both age discrimination and racist

 

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How is calling old, white, men, "old white men" racist? Or ageist for that matter? You forgot sexist, but it doesn't matter because it's not that either. If you're old and white and a man then you're old and white and a man. Kind of a downer probably, but you're stuck with it.

 

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Not this college kid again! You know when I was back at the good old U of M my window was about 5 feet across from the building's window nextdoor which happen to be a fraternity. Often when I was in my room studying, they were having loud keggers until all hours of the morning. As you probably know, fraternities are conservative bastions reserved for wealthy young Republicans for the most part or at least they were on our campus.​

On several ocassions, I witnessed the guy across from my room drag some young girl into his room that could barely stand up because she was so drunk. Then I would see three or four more guys walk into the room and take turns on this passed out girl. Now pretty much having sex with someone that is too drunk to give consent is rape in almost any state. So now am I to conclude that all young Republicans are rapists? It is the only conclusion I can come to if I use your logic.​

Here are the questions I asked.

Moen1305, JoeNation or whatever you're calling yourself these days, I have a few questions for you. Did you honestly actually witness these rapes? Be truthful, please. Did you take any action to prevent the rapes while they were occurring? Did you notify the authorities while the rapes were occurring and/or after they occurred? Can you be certain that the girls you saw DIDN'T give consent?​

Rape is a serious felony and, if your accusations are true, the psychological, emotional and physical impact on those girls is beyond measure. You don't say how long ago this occurred, but those girls may still be suffering to this day. They could actually be waiting for someone like you to come forward in order to finally put an amount of closure on their ordeal. If any of those girls reported the rape and it went so far as trial where the defendant was found not guilty, your testimony could have changed the verdict. There are girls who may have been shamed by their families or communities because they couldn't prove rape. Whatever you witnessed could bring dignity back to those girls. Not only that, but your testimony could potentially have locked away a rapist (or multiple rapists) and prevented him from raping someone else.​

As witnessed with the recent Penn State incident and the rapes of those little boys by Jerry Sandusky, it's never too late to come forward. There may be victims out there who need your testimony. Please do the right thing and notify the authorities. Let us know what they say. Thank you.​

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Read more:​

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http://www.partisanlines.com/thread...illion-medicare-lie.4537/page-3#ixzz24FEncIbT​

http://www.partisanlines.com/threads/obamacare-the-republican-500-billion-medicare-lie.4537/page-3

 

So if I called all black people "MILF mongering idiots", "hardcore racists", "Right wing a$$hat", etc., you would call that racism, right? Well, that is just what he did for all white people.​

 

I will attempt to answer the " legitimite" thing.

If a girl is 15 and willingly has sex with an adult, that is legal rape. Therefore, forcible rape could then be called " legitimate".......I dont know. But thats my guess anyways. I do not at al stand with or for Akin, I think he is a moron.

 

He doesn't quite get that white is the exact same thing as caucasian. He doesn't get that old is not racist. And he doesn't get that man is one the the two possible genders to pick from.
You forget that he hails from the party of racists and doesn't even recognize the fact. If someone has such a difficult time seeing something as obvious as Right-wing racism when there are countless overt examples, then why would anyone expect that he could actually point out a genuine example of racism? Somebody better tell Webster's that they are being racist.

Cau·ca·sian adj \ˈkȯ-ˈkā-zhən, -ˈkazh-ən\

Definition of CAUCASIAN

1
: of or relating to the white race of humankind as classified according to physical features
2
: of or relating to the white race as defined by law specifically as composed of persons of European, North African, or southwest Asian ancestry
—Caucasian noun

 

Here is why Akin's "apology" has no meaning at all. He said that he was sorry for using the term "legitimate" even though he explained his rationale for using it. He explained that women's bodies have a way to shut down and prevent pregnancy. Totally stupid understanding of anatomy physiology BUT, he still hasn't changed his policy stance even though it was based on something as stupid as the magic vagina theory.
So he apologizes for using the term "legitimate" rape that was based on some of the dumbest rationale ever spoken in public and yet his policy on abortion with no exceptions for rape or incest still stands in spite of knowing absolutely nothing about the physiology.

 

The entire point went right over your head, but that does not surprise me. When you denigrate a group of people based solely on their race be it white or Caucasian, if you prefer, that is racism IMO.

BTW, the "old" part is also age discrimination as well as the "men" part is sex discrimination.

 

Stupid points don't go over my head, there is always the side-splitting doubled over laughing that always accompanies any of your points.

 

I'm getting older and I'm white (Caucasion). So I consider myeself an aging white man.

Depending on one's definition of old I will eventually be an old white man assuming I live that long.

So what. Unless I have radical surgery that's all there is to it.

When I was in high school about 99% of my classmates were white. No blacks but a smattering of Latin and two of Chinese descent (they were brothers) as well as a Korean and one Japanese.

The older of the Chinese was a friend of mine as we were in many classes together.
I don't recall what we were talking about one day but he made the comment "how would I know. You all look alike to me."
Should I have been offended? Well, I wasn't. Damn near wet myself because I was laughing so hard.

Let's skip to last night. We had some serious work done on our sewer lines today and last night a guy from the water company came over to mark lines.
He was of Mexican descent.

We got to BSing about sports and hockey came up. He told me he had a cousin that loved hockey and was a pretty good player.
He also told me when he found that out he told his cousin "that's a white boy's sport".
Once again. Should I have been offended?

Why would I? Most hockey players are white after all. It was an observation from a "non white".



If one goes out of ones way to be offended they will. If they listen to a different perspective they will.

I choose the latter. Makes life more interesting.

 

Clembo,
There is a big difference between your experiences and Teddy's. You are complimenting them despite their race/age/sex. Teddy is insulting them because of their race/age/sex. And those quotes I presented are exact quotes of his descriptions of old white men.

 

Poor Dicky! You'll never get it.

 

I can somewhat see your point here Rlm but it's not as black and white as you put it here.

I wouldn't exactly say I was "complimenting" the folks I used as examples. More like there was no friction, they said what was on their mind. Just two people talking with different backgrounds.
Hmmm... guess I was complimenting them. LOL

However being an "aging white man" I can see how people would have a beef with old white men. Or any other "group" for that matter.

It's all in how one takes it, interprets it, analyzes it and runs with it.

If one wants to run with it as racist/ageist/sexist then go for it. This is when I (personally) start to think that someone is just looking for a reason to confront and argue.

I see that a lot here. One of my favorites is "typical Liberal".

Am I typical Liberal to you Rlm? I don't think so and doubt you do either. I have enough respect for you in that regard. You think.

Still, to some I am (a typical Liberal) any time I make a comment it seems (persecution complex).

I lean to the left for sure. BUT I own a gun and am an "aging white male".
As I stated earlier eventually I'll be an "old white male".

So be it. I can bitch about the stereotype or keep on living.
I can bitch about the "typical liberal" thing or keep on living.

I reckon I'll just keep on living.

 

No, you are not a typical liberal. You actually present ideas and don't (usually, at least) resort to insults to make your point.

Hey! I try not to use blanket statement like "typical liberal". I am sure that I am not perfect, but I try. Now, Teddy, on the other hand, only had 2 phases of argument. He either groups you with his pejorative of the moment (old white men) or insults you (southern educated).

 

How do you know he's not a typical Liberal? Maybe the Liberals you find offensive are the atypical ones.

And I still fail to see how "old white men" is a pejorative. That is unless you are arguing that any word or phrase is a pejorative if it is used in a certain way or said with a certain intent.

If that's the case then it's not the words you should be focusing on, because technically they are neutral. At least in the case of "old" and "white" and "men". Words like ni*ger, slant, wop, fag etc maybe not so much. But in the case of OWM think it would be more productive to focus on the intent and idea behind the words and address that issue rather that whining about the words themselves. But suit yourself.

 

Well I am a Old White Man and quite proud of it, I have outlived a number of my Contemporaries and hope to do the same with many more

 

I too am an old white man. I hardly find it self-deprecating to say it and therefore I don't see how I could possibly being using it as a pejorative towards anyone else. I’m older than many, I’m white, and I’m a man…last time I checked.



I think Dicky’s problem is that he grew up in the South and they simply have a different definition of racism. Every person I’ve met from the south that has talked about the institutional racism they grew up with, and I mean everybody, says that it is just part and parcel of growing up in that part of the country.



I was just in Memphis this past spring and spoke to a young man at the Civil Rights Museum. I told him how impressed I was with the layout of the place and what a great visit we had but I had to ask why there were no street signs anywhere that directed people to its location. I could barely find it on my GPS. He said it was just the local politics and what he meant was that it was the local institutional racism that has always been part of the South.



Dicky has lived in the belly of the beast and has been a part of the culture so long, that he is tired of hearing it and has psychologically transferred his perceptions of southern racism to a victimization complex. Instead of seeing all the racism around him every day, he focuses on those he perceives to be racist against himself. It is not an unusual or unheard of psychological defense mechanism but apparently the subject remains unaware of his own cognitive dissonance.

 

FYI, the closest I came to growing up "in the South" would have been the years I spent at 5.5 degrees north latitude. I dare you to find that location on anything you would remotely consider "the South".

 

Been playing with your globe again?