So maybe you can take a break now and explain to me how you define "the far left". You know, the phrase you chose to use in the title of this thread. I'm sure you have a pretty clear picture of what exactly you mean by it or you wouldn't have used it.
All I said was that his decision to support gay marriage isn't going to affect the number of votes he'll get in November in any significant way.
If this story dies down it will be a shame. Every voter should know that BO's values & belief systems are for sale to the higherst bidders.
No need to wait. Whatever there is to be seen on the subject can be seen right now. It's everywhere for crissake. Don't you trust the electorate to know what's significant and what's not? So then what is "the far left" exactly? I'm dying to know how you define it.
What makes you think I can't? Because I haven't in the few minutes you "gave" me to "prove" my case (which, by the way, you hadn't even asked me to prove in any way up to this point... and which you still haven't asked... instead stating "you can't back it up"). Have you explained your comments about torture being cake? Well? I'm still waiting for you to explain that little nugget.
Okay, fine. I'll concede the floor. But after he has a shot at THAT, can he move on to defining "the far left"?
You'll have to wait a while, I guess because I never said it! Are you really that dense that you would ask me to explain something I didn't say? Really?
I don't know if you play Blackjack ever... but David's been "doubling-down" on the Rodriguez thread, and now he's doubling-down here too... but maybe, if he's got a few more chips, he can spend some more time "replying" to your posts too.
...and he doubles-down agaaaaaaiiiiiiiinnnn!!! Sheesh! You're really betting the farm on a gamble against a sure-loss! Rich people are so stupid with their money lol Now then, care to back-up your claim that torture is nothing more than a romp-in-the-park?... or would you care to double-down once more? Please, ohhhh pleeeease, say you have more double-down tokens...
My guess is that it will hurt him a bit. Probably not much, but still. I would guess that his total vote will not noticeably change. He will probably gain votes in California, Mass, Oregon, DC, and a couple others. Problem is, he has those won regardless. I would also guess it will hurt him in Ohio, Florida, Virginia, NC, and several other states. Those are the states that will make the difference in the end.
I think Obama is doing it for the money but he is also trying to put pressure on Romney to make a clear current position on it as well hoping Romney will not want to look bad, notice how the bully thing came out around this time, and back a gay issue therefore turning off a segment of voters and therefore having a lower turnout for Romney who few people love anyway.
I think that Romney has made his current position on our civil rights very clear. And I don't think he needed much help from Obama to do it. His need to suck up to the Christian theocrats aka Social Conservatives was plenty of motivation.
As usual, David's one-sided myopically partisan focus renders his opinion less than inconsequential. He has always seemed more than capable of leveling criticisms at the Left but completely gives a pass to the people on the Right demonstrating the same behaviors he is ranting against on the Left. Yeah that’ll lend your opinions a lot of credence. His threads have become the source of ridicule and humor. This one is no different. Apparently, David has no issue with Romney pandering to wealthy donors if it will buy them political influence and tax and regulation favoritism but if Democrats want social equality for all, then Obama must be labeled with the pejorative “lap dog”. I don’t know what David has against social equality nor do I care. I will keep voting into office people that believe in equality for all and always vote against those selling the government to the highest bidder. He can’t possibly grasp these values, maybe, just maybe, because it is HE that is the lap dog of the wealthy.
He never did answer the question in another thread when I asked if he viewed our soldiers being tortured as a little discomfort. He just doesn't tend to think things through very well.
He's here to increase tensions between the parties, nothing more. He'd fit right in to Congress or any other part of the political machine. That (the political machine) is something people tend to lose focus on. Instead of looking at the real issue of how politics is a tens-of-thousands-persons strong self-serving organism bent on preserving the power, influence, and wealth it holds, people tend to focus on one person, one part of the machine, and fail to see how that single individual's particular activites ...or as in Obama's case, lack of capabilities to reform the machine... are nothing compared to the larger issue of the political machine's dominance over policy and government. ...or whatever...
Apparently BO's willingness to change his views for money has paid off again. Ricky Martin is hosting another Hollywood-type fundraiser which is sure to bring in even more millions from even more of those 1%ers BO says you are supposed to despise. Reconcile this one...
David did you not say in another thread that the President was buddy's with the Wall Street crowd? well if that is the case (apologies if I got it wrong) then his stance now proves he is a Inclusive President to those on the Left and the Right
The mistake you make about your wealthy masters is that not ALL 1%'ers are Republican self-serving A-holes. Some 1%'ers actually care about this country. You typically make nonsense blanket assuptions that do not hold water. This only demonstrates how naive you really are.
He is buddies with the Wall St crowd, at least with those who will give him cash. Look at the JP Morgan Chase thing going on at the moment. Jamie Dimon is one of BO's staunches supporters, both publically & financially. BO's sweeping regulation sure didn't make a difference there, did it? Were Dimon & his folks immune to the new regs based on his associations with the BO campaign? Were the regs written with Dimon's input so that he knew the loopholes? Heck, if you caught BO on tv blasting Romney for his time at Bain Capital, he was delivering the statement from the home of a guy who runs a hedge fund that is more than double the size Bain ever was. I mean how do you blast Wall St while cozying up & pandering to Wall St? How do you accuse the 1%ers of not doing their part then grovel for their money & shape your opinions based on their donations?