Food stamp users hit a new record high numbers

No! It is absolutely both.

 

Yes, I have no doubt that the wholly own subsidiary of the oil industry a.k.a. the Republican Party thinks Obama is has decimated their exploitation of our natural resources. Tell me something I don't know. A long time ago, the oil industry figured out that lobbyist were too slow so they by-passed them entirely and simply purchased the Republican Party lock, stock, and barrel. It doesn't mean that I have to fall for their propaganda the way you have.

You seem to be the original apologist for the energy industrialist in this country and it seems in your eyes at least, no amount of environmental degradation, no amount of pollution, and no amount of political corruption at the hands of this out of control sector of our economy is too much for you to level a critical word against them. So what makes you think anyone would ever take your word for anything related to energy policy? I mean, do people interview the cheerleaders at a football game to see what they think about the game or do we just sort of know what they think already?

How much legislation has been enacted since the BP spill 2 years ago that would prevent another disaster like that one? The answer is 0! Not one law has passed making oil drilling any safer. Not one! Keep cheering Buffy!

 

Perfect response!
...and by obtuse, moen, do you mean rlm shouldn't bother you with those pesky facts?

 

The rest of the story is this:
Drilling isn't being allowed in the areas where the oil actually resides. Drilling is being permitted in areas where there is no historic evidence oil even exists.

 

Why would anyone "take your word for anything related to energy"? Well maybe because that is the field I was educated in. Or maybe just because I post facts in stead of attacking the messenger.

How much legislation has been enacted since the BP spill 2 years ago? Ummmm. Let me think. The democrats were in charge of the House two years ago. The democrats were in charge of the Senate two years ago. The democrats were in charge of the Executive branch two years ago. Why don't you ask them just what they have done. BTW, I have a news flash for you. The democrats still control the latter two of the above. Oh! And to top that off, those type regulations do not even come from the House or Senate. Why don't you ask just what Obama has done?

 

Actually no, it isn't. Either I know the truth and I'm intentionally lying or I don't know all the facts and I'm unintentionally stating a mistruth... it can't be both... and that's if YOU are correct, something I still haven't seen enough evidence on to say whether it's true or not. Things that are certain is your support for more drilling no matter the cost to protected lands and my support for continuing to protect those protected lands.

 

So you make MY point for me. Democrats have NOT been responsible for decreasing drilling and in fact it is at an all-time high in this country. So which way do you want it now?

 

Yep! That shows what you know. Congress does not laws to impede the drilling. The EPA makes regulations. The Interior Department issues regulations. The Department of Energy issues regulations. The Bureau of Land Management issues regulations. OSHA issues regulations. Etc. Now, just who runs all of these?

 

Drilling is being restricted in protected areas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Refuge_drilling_controversy

In the article you'll note that the oil industries attempts to drill for oil in protected areas (the ANWR specifically) has been non-stop for more than 45 years now.

Which led to:

...and...

Flash forward to 1989, and a more industry sympathetic congress:

...and in 1996:

That's what you get for messin' with Bubba's sex life!

But, as you are aware, that isn't going to stop a determined industry or the people they buy in congress:

...and again:

...and again:

...and again:

...despite Jr.'s earlier stance and his daddy's previously Executive Order:

The point? The oil industry will never stop until they are permitted to drill anywhere they want. They have more than enough cash to throw at congressmen, more than enough leases to explore and extract oil and gas, but they are insatiable.

 

So the fact that we are drilling more today than ever before and no laws have been passed to restrict drilling even after the worst oil spill in this country's history, and the fact that we are using less and less oil every year, means Obama must be against the oil industry. Ooooh! The sheer audacity of the man to pull something like that on us!

 

So you worked at a gas station?

 

I guess I need to repeat for you;

Just to make sure you catch it, overall, we are drilling fewer wells than 8 years ago overall and the only reason it is not a lot fewer is that private lands have been opened to the oil companies new technologies and wells on private lands (where Obama has not restricted them) has somewhat increased.

"But the most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly and with unflagging attention. It must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over." Keep trying, and you and BO might succeed, but I will try my darnedest to keep you two from it.

 

Keep at it and you might get close by the next century. Yes, I know that you are"easily the highest educated person in this forum", but that does not keep you from also being the most ignorant.

 

Did you also clean the windows and put air in the tires?

 

Now you are bragging about your ignorance.

 

Or more likely making fun of yours.

 

I'm really enjoying sitting back and watching RLM make fools of all you Lefties. This is fun!

 

They make it so easy. It is obvious they know absolutely nothing of which they speak. Did you catch how quickly he dropped the increased drilling scenario and Congress did not pass any laws bit. It is just too bad that Congress would not pass the monies to enforce the laws we presently have in stead of letting the EPA and company keep the prices jacked up by inhibiting the companies from drilling.

 

I'll make it easier: If the goal is to have cheaper fuel, there are at least two other ways to go about it that are far more effective: One: The oil industry in America can sell the oil they extract for less profit... say $75 a barrel... for three years. That'll lower those pesky gas prices! or Two: The government can make it law that the oil industry must sell it's oil at ...say $75 a barrel... for three years. That'll also lower those pesky gas prices!

Of course, the industry may balk at that, I mean it's fine for them to use politics to make reams of money off of everyone... to them that's fair...so they may not like the roles being reversed on them. I bet they'd even say "it's unfair!"... like ripping everyone off year after year is fair.

Ok, now you may begin saying that kind of idea is unworkable and/or foolish.