The only bright spot in all of this is the knowledge that people in states such as Tennessee and Kansas, where self-reliance, disdain for government handouts, and taking personal responsibility are so embedded in the culture, won't expect aid from Washington in dealing with their problems. Or even aid from Topeka or Nashville for that matter. I'm sure that they were prudently and properly prepared to deal with this eventuality and will be able to take care of everything on their own, thereby staying true to their ideals and providing an example to the rest of us. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17227741
I think in addition to asking for handouts from the government, those folks should also ask for their mortgages (after rebuilding) to be paid in full and their cars paid off. Not only that, but give them free health insurance forever. Plus free food for the rest of their lives. And a stipend of, say, $5,000 per month to pay for incidentals like gasoline, clothes, heat and cooling, etc. Plus they shouldn't have to pay home insurance or car insurance. And their property taxes will be paid by the government. Let's add free cable TV and internet for life. And, of course, a free cell phone for life. Make it an iPhone. Let's add an iPad and all the accessories. Oh, and let's give them free iTunes gift cards so they can download Apps and Music. Let's not forget free schooling, too for as long as they want. And, really, what is life without a boat and a lake house? Hey, as long as we're dreaming we might as well ask for the whole enchilada, so to speak.
Politics kind falls by the wayside when your community is devasted by a tornado. We have been hit hard this week & more is expected today. Actually, we've had 3 tornadoes follow the same path in the last few years. So to make this tragedy into some sort of politcal joke is pretty low-life behavior.
Oh really? So all that self-reliance, personal responsibility, I-don't-need-the-govt-in-my-life garbage only holds when things are going okay for you? What are you, some kind of fair-weather Rightie?
You're not liking this much it seems. But I mean it's your own political philosophy we're talking about here. You obviously have a problem with dependency and "socialism". Let these people turn to the private sector and private charities for help if they are unable to cope on their own. Government involvement can only make things worse, right? And after all, don't they choose to live there? And don't you expect people to man up and deal with the consequences of their choices?
Sorry Tak, Moen... although you two have a point about how a lot of Republicans tend to consider handouts they receive as warranted, and handouts given to anyone else as unwarranted... I have to agree with David and De Orc, that during a disaster like this, politics are put aside and the focus is on helping those in need.
Maybe there is a connection to the global warming you keep denying? Sometimes God has to shout at idiots.
I don't see that talking politics and helping those in need are mutually exclusive. I'm no RWer, I'm all for helping those in need including Red Staters. But at the same time I don't feel that this precludes me from pointing out the gross hypocrisy in the RW's demonizing of the government all all its works then and a breath or two (or a twister or two) later expecting this same government to help save their bacon. So much for all the bootstrap rhetoric.
True, and sometimes it's this kind of "shock" that can make people realize that hypocrisy in themselves. So... I'm not saying this thread, or any post in it, can't have a net-positive outcome. I was just trying to move the 'tone' of the thread to a place where the possibility of a positive impact is higher. ...or whatever.
Over in Harrisburg, I know a lot of private agencies and people as well as local and state resources are helping out. People like the United Mine Workers, First United Methodist Church, Salvation Army, some guy from KC who started up "Operation Barbecue Relief", Samaritan's Purse, Team Rubicon, local VFW's, Operation Blessing, Peabody Energy, United Way, Red Cross, city, county and state police, area food banks, many individual volunteers, and many others. I am sure the Feds (besides the political vultures descending for campaign photo ops) are there too but it isn't all up to the Federal Government to save the day.
This whole thread has been nothing more than a vile attempt to turn a tragedy into a political deal in order to advance a far left radical narrative. Sad.
Yes, I know that. I'm well aware that the the government is far from the only player in the relief effort and that private groups and agencies are doing a huge amount. Collectively they are probably carrying the bulk of the load at this point. It will probably be in the rebuilding effort that the despised government is asked or rather expected to step in.