Scottish Independence

Did I say that I disagreed with 16 year olds voting? it seems to me that you are simply looking for a argument were non exists
Again joining the EU is reversable and we are not in Canada so that is a irrelavence
And like I said you can remove a goverment after 4 to 5 years
40% is not a majority it is a minority, as for the spoiled votes what of it they have cast a vote and that is what counts
The fall out from the Iraq and Vietnam wars both helped to bring down goverments by the way

 

I was actually agreeing with you on lowering the voting age
An Independent Scotland does not mean that Unionists cannot fight for a return to Union with England/Wales/Northern Ireland. So, in this respect it is exactly the same as with the European Union - it is reversible.
Again I am confused, when did I ever try to argue that 40% was a majority?
I don't know about America, but in the UK we joined in the war on Iraq because we were told Sadam had Weopons of Mass Destruction - not regime change.
The communists won in Vietnam, the only government that was toppled was the South Vietnamese, US backed, one.

 

I may be in the minority (in America) with my view of the reasons America invaded Iraq. My view is that most Americans at the time were too engaged in a 'patriotic spirit' to bother to verify that the evidence being presented was legitimate. The evidence that Saddam had wmd (which in and of itself is not enough of a reason to invade a country, overthrow it's government, and install a more "favorable" one) was presented as fact when it was more a supposition.

Furthermore, the decision to push for legitimacy in the U.N. was a legal matter ...the decision to invade had already been decided, as America had already staged it's military resources and made the necessary preperations, preperations that take months to plan and implement.

Regime change was the goal and had been for months. Most people should have been able to see that. The accusations of wmd's was the flimsy reasoning for invasion, with the ultimate goal of regime change. The UK backed the plan, but quite a few other countries were outraged at the audacity of it.

 

The referndum is yet another step closer with the signing of the agreement between the Scottish & Westminster governments. This will allow the SNP to hold it on a date they wish (before the end of 2014). The voting age will be reduced to 16 and the Nationalists will set the question. The Yes for Independence campaign would seem to have got all they were looking for. The 'Better Together' folks (those who want to stay with the UK) are trumpeting the fact that the Nationalists have accepted that there should only be one question - about Independence - and no second one relating to devolving more powers. As the Nationalists never wanted the latter in the first place, it looks like they have come out best from these talks. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-19942638