1 MILLION Signatures To Recall Walker

Nearly a quarter of the state of Wisconsin's population signed the recall petition in a reaction to the GOP overreach. That's 1 million people that want Walker gone not to mention 4 Republican Senators. A total of 1.9 million signatures were delivered to the state capitol this week triggering a recall of one unpopular Governor. Wisconsin gets it! When will the RW'ers here ever cop to the reality of their own unpopularity? The whining is expected to be deafening.

 

....so more than three quarters oppose the recall?

 

Hardly, kids can't vote even in Wisconsin. Aren't you assuming that 3/4 of the population supports Walker with absolutely NO proof? Yes, yes you are. There are only 3.4 million registered voters in Wisconsin and only about 40% of them actually vote depending on the election year. I'd say that makes a million signatures very significant but keep grasping at any straw you need to grasp at.

 

A signature doesn't equal a vote. An inconvenient truth to this petition is anyone, anywhere could sign it as long as they said they were 18 or older & had lived in the state for a few months. One has to wonder how many signed it multiple times, how many "Mickey Mouses" signed it & how many moen-types added their signatures?
I'm surprised you would take so much pride in a petition you sign as you leave the grocery store or that anyone can sign online. Not a lot of meat there really.

 

As ACORN has demonstrated over and over, anyone can sign and sign and sign. "18 or older & had lived in the state for a few months" is only meaningful at verification.

 

I think the results speak for themselves regardless of the spin you'd like to attach. Walker and his cronies are toast and the clock is ticking.

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I heard an interview Walker conducted.....he has quite a powerful record as gov of WI. He's turned a massive budget shortfall in a record surplus and the state is fully funded for years to come. I would imagine the people of WI will appreciate that more than the bellyaching of labor unions.

 

I'd really take what he says with a grain of salt if I were you. There actually was no massive shortfall to begin with as the Democrats stated during the initial fight and there certainly is no record surplus now. He spins and you buy it. Did you suddenly forget that he is a politician?

 

I am astounded by how a person who claims that everyone right of center is blinded by ideology is so blinded himself by ideology. Pretty much this entire thread, as others that you've participated in, boils down to RWers are stupid and all of their "facts" are wrong, but I'm brilliant, my party is brilliant, and everything I present as fact is truthful beyond any spin or inaccuracy simply because someone even slightly left of center wrote it. It would be lovely if you could argue deficiency of fact instead of apparent deficiencies of party.

 

Hmmm....let's see.....who to believe? A successful governor of the state or a, well, you? Hmmm....I think I'll go with the governor on this one. Sorry, moen, I just don't consider you a credible, intelligent or informed source on this or any other subject.

 

Just curious, but by which measurement is Wisconsin any worse off than your Democratically controlled state of Illinois? It was just 2 years ago you were so proud of how they had agreed to reduce their spending increases to control the deficit and that was the greatest thing since sliced cheese, but in one year, the Wisconsin Republicans have managed to reduce the deficit spending, deficit, and unemployment below that of Illinois. (And I am using per capita figures, not gross numbers)

 

They cannot argue the facts, so that is about the only argument they have except when they go to the insults.

 

Do me a favor. Google "Walker Surplus Wisconsin" and see which source YOU believe. I've never believed that I have any ability to fix stupid. I only plant the seeds of knowledge. If it grows, great! If it doesn't you still have dirt.

 

You know, unless it comes from a major new source (and I do include Fox News), I tend to view any "source" with a jaundiced eye. Even when it *does* come from a major news source, I tend to view pretty much anything with a slant with a jaundiced eye. News written with a slant is unreliable, I don't care who presents it. I just don't understand how you can accuse anyone of being blinded by ideology when you are equally blinded by your party politics.

 

Instead of relying on blogs from Rachel Maddow or Ed Schultz, why don't you take a look at the budget yourself?

http://www.doa.state.wi.us/debf/execbudget.asp

Here are some things I culled from the budget for you to look at. They seem pretty reasonable to me:

CHART 1: DESPITE ONE OF THE LARGEST DEFICITS IN HISTORY; THE STRUCTURAL DEFICIT AT ALL TIME LOW

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I tend to believe or at least have more faith in those sources that back up what they say. I do not believe sources that use phrases like, "Sources have confirmed", or "We have been told", or any other statement along those lines because they are just blowing smoke up your... Next time you watch Fox or any of other new program, listen for those types of statements. You'll find Fox relies pretty heavily on those phrases if you pay attention. Not that I haven't heard other news sources use them but Fox makes it a bloody art.

 

Now see, I think MSNBC does that waaaaaaaay more than FOX.

 

So Fox references their material and the others do not. How interesting.

BTW, it is common practice in DC to send a source out to release information on condition of anonymity - most commonly done by the WH and not associated with either party. When reporting such, all news networks say such things as "sources say".

 

Provide examples. For example which MSNBC program are you talking about? MSNBC doesn't narrow it down a whole lot. Fox News is very specific.

 

Oh nonsense. You do realize that most news programs get their news from the same sources, right? Reuters, AP, UPI, the next-door blogger, Twitter?