So Romney Pays A 15% Tax Rate and Still Wants Lower Taxes?

I think this is where I get to say Booyah!

 

It that is a lie, then so is this;

And David is just what other than the right?

 

Nice attempt at the "gotcha moment"....you sure adhere to the far left's tactics, I'll give you that.

 

Right! When you get nailed to the wall with your own words, it must be dismissed as a gotcha moment or else the facts might actually have to be addressed.
BTW Far Right tactic.

 

Rich kids for Romney.

 

Moen, this is the democratic leftist machine presenting truth as a lie.

The manner inwhich the topic is presented suggests that the man is cheating the system but after five minutes of looking it up myself it appears as if the man is just paying the regular requirement that he is suppose to pay. Money from investments is taxed differently from earned income which as for all of us that work has different brackets. What is the man suppose to do, pay more then what is required.

I am sure you do not say to the IRS let me pay more then you ask just like I don't. So why should he.

 

No one has even suggested that what Romney and other extremely wealthy people are doing is anything illegal or that they are not paying what they are required to pay under the current tax code. No one is even suggesting that criminal charges and investigations should be looked into. Far from it. The issue isn't whether or not the system is being cheated by anyone. The issue is whether the system itself is broken. Romney is just the most visible symptom of the problem right now, and the reason Romney should try to correct the current tax system is because what he and others like him are doing is siphoning off large amounts of wealth and power for doing absolutely nothing and it hurts millions of middle class people all at once which of course strains governmental resources at the same time governmental resources are being raided by people like Romney. Do you understand the concept of a vicious circle?

 

The fourteen fundamental articles or beliefs of Mormons -- One at a time

1 - God was once a man who lived on another planet
This is the most important teaching of Mormonism. Nothing else comes close to it. We believe that God was once a mortal man on another planet who progressed by living in obedience to the laws and ordinances of the gospel he had on his world, then he died. He became a resurrected man and evolved to become a god. He is still married now (some early leaders say he is a polygamist) and created this world. We worship only the one true god, which is really one god among millions or billions or more. We believe that we will follow in God's footsteps by becoming perfect and we too will become Gods and Goddesses creating spirit children and peopling other worlds. The Mormon TV commercials showing family togetherness is the foundation for life in the next world - as a family - as gods.
Reference: Journal of Discourses Vol. 6 Page 4, 1844. Joseph Smith speaking:
"...you have to learn to be Gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all Gods have done before you, - namely, by going from one small degree to another..."
Reference: Journal of Discourses Vol. 6 Page 275, 1852. Brighan Young speaking:
"After men have got their exaltations and their crowns - have become Gods..."

 

The fourteen fundamental articles or beliefs of Mormons -- One at a time

2 - We are co-eternal with God
We believe we have all existed for all eternity. First we existed as "intelligences", which has never been defined, then we were given spirit bodies in a heaven by our eternal parents. Our "intelligences" have existed forever just like the our God's has and we have been around him in one form or another forever. He has just simply progressed ahead of us.
Reference: Journal of Discourses Vol. 6 Page 7, 1844. Joseph Smith speaking:
"God himself, finding he was in the midst of spirits and glory, because he was more intelligent, saw proper to institute laws whereby the rest could have a privilege to advance like himself"

 

The fourteen fundamental articles or beliefs of Mormons -- One at a time

3 - The origin of Jesus Christ
Jesus was begotten by physical union of God and Mary. Since God has a body of flesh and bones, he really had literal sex with Mary. The product of this union was Jesus, part man and part God. We believe Jesus was the first born in heaven by heavenly father and mother who created his spirit and our spirits using our "intelligences" as a foundation for our spirits. Our "intelligences" were floating around in the universe and needed to be organized into spirits. Since he was the first born spirit, and according to the Book of Abraham, his "intelligence" was better than the other "intelligences" out there, he is the most important spirit creation. When Jesus received his physical body by the union of God and Mary, his spirit was put into his body like our spirits were put into our bodies. His body was special though because his father was a god. The rest of us have only regular dads.
Again, a few Mormons wrote say that they do not believe this and it misrepresenting the church's position. Actually the quotes from the early leaders are stranger than I could create from my imagination. Here are a few references:
Brigham Young speaking in the Journal of Discourses Vo1 1, Page 51 1852, "Jesus our Elder Brother was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven."
Brigham Young speaking in the Journal of Discourses Vo1 15, Page 770 1853, "Now remember from this time forth, and for ever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost... if the Son was begotten by the Holy Ghost, it would be a very dangerous to baptize and confirm females, and give the Holy Ghost to them, lest he should beget children..."

 

The fourteen fundamental articles or beliefs of Mormons -- One at a time

4 - Truth is determined by feelings
We believe we know the truth by our feelings. We do not rely on and we will disregard any facts that contradict what our feelings tell us is true. If something feels bad, like someone telling us that Joseph Smith was a fraud, then we know that Smith must of been a prophet since falsehoods create bad feelings and it feels bad when someone tells us that we have been duped. In other words, if we get a bad feeling, we are hearing bad things which must be lies. We feel good when we read the Book of Mormon, therefore it is true. Archeology, genetics, science, metallurgy, agriculture and animal studies are irrelevant since our feelings tell us it is a true book revealed by God. This good feeling applies to all aspects of our lives. We determine if we should do something or know the truth of something if we have prayed about it and have a good feeling about it.

 

The fourteen fundamental articles or beliefs of Mormons -- One at a time

5 - What a Prophet said can be revised depending on the circumstances
We believe that when the Prophet, the head of our church, says something that is definitely wrong he was not being inspired at that time. He was only speaking as a man. We believe that the newer Prophets can override the older Prophets. We believe we have a prophet on earth today even though he never prophecies anything.
Reference: Ezra Taft Benson '14 Fundamentals in Following the Prophets' pgs 1-16, 1980:
"Beware of those who would pit the dead prophets against the living prophets, for the living prophets always take precedence."

 

I though you did not believe in God?

 

The fourteen fundamental articles or beliefs of Mormons -- One at a time

6 - Saving our dead ancestors shows we are the only Christian church
We believe we have temples where we get the handshakes and passwords that allow us to become gods. We also baptize by proxy dead people so they too can become Mormons.

 

To Moen:

The First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Now... Mormons have the freedom to exercise religion and believe anything they want to believe. I am certain you don't dispute that. So, what's your point about posting all the things Mormon's believe?

 

moen is just doing what he's told.....the far left has always be prejudicial against religion (as well as racist).

 

And misogynistic. And hypocritical. And ignorant.

 

The fourteen fundamental articles or beliefs of Mormons -- One at a time

7 - Ex-Mormons or apostates had sin in their life or never had a testimony
We believe apostates, if they had a testimony, will be cast into outer darkness. The others who leave Mormonism must never had a testimony.

 

The fourteen fundamental articles or beliefs of Mormons -- One at a time

8 - We will only read church approved materials
Any literature which is critical of the church is Satanic and/or written by disgruntled apostates or others who do not know the truth. They can be ignored and any reasonable arguments they have are unimportant since they oppose the gospel of Mormonism.

 

The fourteen fundamental articles or beliefs of Mormons -- One at a time

9 - We need to convert the whole world to Mormonism
We believe we must send all our young men from ages 19-22 on missions throughout the world and many of our unmarried daughters. We must also save our money so that when we are older we can go on a mission as a married couple.