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You're right. Whoever is in that position should march right up to the person who laid him/her off and demand a job back--or, alternatively, should march into the only business hiring in town and insist that none of the other nearly-homeless applicants are anywhere near as good. Right now, even odd jobs are hard to find. What should these people do--stop struggling to keep a house that, if lost, is only a drain on the economy? "Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?" Humbug!

 

It seems to always come down to a judgment for David. Circumstances and reality be damned! If you're struggling it must be your fault....PERIOD! These judgmental types of people need to have those same circumstances inflicted on them and maybe, just maybe, they would understand that you can work hard, do everything you should and still find yourself down and out. Maybe because I have been there I have more sympathy and understanding than someone like him. You can't rationally look at the current unemployment rate, the state of the economy both nationally and internationally, and all the attacks on the public sector workers and think that people are just too lazy to work for a living and that their problems are their own fault. Well, unless you are David.
My circumstances are nowhere near as dire as some people's but I like everyone else am losing ground not because I am too lazy to get a nonexistent second or third job but because wages are flat across the country and have been for 10 years, the cost of everything from health care to food has continued to skyrocket, all while competition for the few available jobs has become intense. The blaming the victim mantra of the Right has just run its course and crossed the finish line and landed in absurdity.

 

I was right there with you till the last sentence. This issue is not a Left vs. Right issue. This issue concerns people who have jobs having no comprehension of how difficult it is for people who have no jobs to get a job. In my town, for every single opening, there are a minimum of 100 applicants. When a new restaurant opened up in town, they received 1000 applications for servers alone. It's insane. If I were to get a job today, I'd have to be willing to drive 50 or more miles to work. I'd spend about $20 in gas a day. What would be the point? People need to take off their judgey pants and start trying to understand the entire issue as it affects the entire population.

 

Actually, you jumped into the middle of a discussion. You & I were looking at a specific instance from different viewpoints. Stu & I were discussing disposable income and not having sympathy for people who spent more than they make...people living above their means. We weren't discussing folks who found themselves in an unexpected jam. Based on the conversation Stu & I were having, I thought you were referring to people making $90/wk who were going out & getting a mortgage based on that income.

Oh, and by the way, moen's depiction is way off the mark just as every other left wing talking point he parrots.

 

I just meant with the Right-wingers in this forum but I don't think that it is an entirely unfamiliar attitude in the general ranks of the Right-wing becuase I hear the same type of comments from the Right-wing media. You are absolutely right though, the job situation out there is bleek. That is why I see people like David that judge others for not doing enough to work as fools blaming those that are already suffering.

 

Like I always say when ever you accuse me of parroting the Left, show me where the Left has made the comments I have just made and then you go mute or post something completely unrelated and beat your chest in victory anyway. Too funny!

 

Did Roseanne Barr tell you to post this?

 

Yes! yes she did.

 

...she just gave me a $100 bill and told me to agree with Moen.

 

Roseanne's getting cheap in her old age. If she gave me $1000 I might agree not to laugh in her face.

 

She is actually the poster child for left wing hypocrisy...when she first helped start the OWS she said everyone making over $100 million should be executed. I guess she & her hollywood friends coming in a paltry $99 million were safely in the 99%, huh?

 

She is an entertainer. What part of that is confusing you? I don't support, defend, criticize her, or take responsibility for anything she does or says. Ironically, she has done a lot more for people than you'll ever do in 10 lifetimes yet you criticize her efforts. Jealous much?

 

What's confusing me is the characterization of Roseanne Barr as being an "entertainer." She is one of the most willfully unfunny people I've ever seen, with the exception of perhaps Rosie O'Donnell and Don Rickles. After the National Anthem fiasco and her claiming to have multiple personalities that she cured herself--yeah . . . It's pretty much "Reality: 1, Roseanne: 0."

 

Everybody has people in the lime light they hate. I can't stand Will Farrell. I hate anything Mary Tyler Moore is in. I can't stand Steve Carell. I'm sure others love them but not me.

 

Our household income after withholding is about $1,800 a month right now. So what does that tell you?

 

That tells me that you're doing a helluva lot better than some and a helluva lot worse than others.

 

It tells me that the 5%'ers need to pay more taxes. Occupy Partisan Lines! Give us 95%'ers some relief!

 

I was riding a bus in manhattan so many years ago and Rosie o donnell came on. Bach then she was on VH1 as a vejay and a local stand up comic that performed a few times a week here and there in places like the comdey celler where a sentator used to host. Rossie was horrible. She laced into an older person. Think she wanted the seat. She was pretty much told to get off the bus. As for that senator, he had the most racial sexist routine but that was par the course in those days for the unclever ones. Heard him five or six times, for he was the host. My favorite was Richard Wright. Very clever person who never resorted to the negative. Think I got his name correct. As for money/it is only money. It can buy you things and it can take you places but if you like yourself and who you with all is good. Especially if one lives in the USA/

 

Maybe you consider her entertaining but I don't see it. Don't forget to add "left wing spokesperson" to her job title.

So you don't support, defend, etc her? Gee, sure sounds like you do.

 

I understand your confusion but the Left doesn't march in lock-step. We have a lot of views that aren't just spoon-fed to as and regurgitated back with no understanding like the Right does. It's a lot less black and white on this side of the political divide than on your side. I'm sure it must seem pretty overwhelming to the likes of you.