WHY RON PAUL IS OUR BEST 2012 PRESIDENTIAL PICK!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by spitfireatme, Nov 2, 2011.

  1. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    The more I think of Moen's Vermin candidate the more I think of Ron Paul.
     
  2. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    I agree with Hollysmom. With primaries and such you have people who really are going to vote for one party if vote at all and in the beginning of the process really did not make up their minds yet on who in that party they want to support. A single TV commerical barrage or event can change everything. Just look at how after winning the first two how things changed for Mitt in South Carolina. A bad news cylce for Mitt before the actual vote can change it all again.

    Polling Data

    PollDateSampleRomneyGingrichSantorumPaulPerryHuntsmanSpread
    RCP Average 1/11 - 1/13 -- 26.7 22.0 14.7 14.7 5.7 5.7 Romney +4.7
    PPP (D) 1/11 - 1/13 803 LV 29 24 14 15 6 5 Romney +5
    Rasmussen Reports 1/12 - 1/12 750 LV 28 21 16 16 6 5 Romney +7
    Insider Advantage 1/11 - 1/11 726 LV 23 21 14 13 5 7 Romney +2
    PPP (D) 1/5 - 1/7 1112 LV 30 23 19 9 5 4 Romney +7
    Rasmussen Reports 1/5 - 1/5 750 LV 27 18 24 11 5 2 Romney +3
    CNN/Time 1/4 - 1/5 485 LV 37 18 19 12 5 1 Romney +18
    Insider Advantage 12/18 - 12/18 736 LV 19 31 4 7 5 4 Gingrich +12
    Clemson 12/6 - 12/19 600 LV 21 38 2 10 5 3 Gingrich +17
    NBC News/Marist 12/4 - 12/6 635 LV 23 42 2 9 7 3 Gingrich +19

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...ina_republican_presidential_primary-1590.html
     
  3. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Two new polls: Paul surges in South Carolina, Santorum slumps

    Texas Rep. Ron Paul has broken through in South Carolina, according to two polls released Friday that show a dramatic increase in support for the libertarian favorite just eight days before the state’s first-in-the-south Jan. 21 primary.


    Paul polled at 20 percent in a statewide poll of South Carolina voters released Friday by American Research Group. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney led with 29 percent and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was just behind him at 25 percent.


    The poll’s margin of error was 4 percentage points, putting Romney and Gingrich in a statistical dead heat.


    The poll indicates a substantial growth in support for Paul in what was previously thought of as a state where he would perform poorly. ARG had found support for Paul eleven points lower, at only nine percent, in a poll conducted one week earlier.


    It also indicates a tightening race between Gingrich and Romney — perhaps reflective of tough attack ads aired by Gingrich and the super PAC supporting his candidacy that criticize Romney directly.


    Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum was in fifth place in the poll, at seven percent, behind Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s nine percent. Santorum experienced a sharp seventeen-point decline from the group’s previous poll.


    A different poll, released Friday by Rasmussen Reports, also indicated an uptick in support for Paul in South Carolina, showing him tied for third place with Santorum at 16 percent. A Rasumussen poll conducted one week earlier had Paul five points lower and Santorum eight points higher.


    According to the Rasmussen poll, Romney leads with 28 percent support, followed by Gingrich at 21 percent.


    Opponents of Romney view South Carolina as perhaps the last opportunity to stall the current front-runner, who has already won the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary. Santorum finished only a few votes behind Romney in Iowa, but his momentum in South Carolina now appears to be fading. Paul placed third in Iowa and second in New Hampshire.
    Paul supporters have organized a “super brochure” project, aiming to educate voters in South Carolina with information about their candidate. The project — which has also targeted voters in Nevada, Iowa and other states — has made contact with hundreds of thousands of Palmetto State voters.
     
  4. katsung47

    katsung47 Well-Known Member

    Really? Why did they behaved like thieves?

    SHOCKING PROOF: IOWA GOP RIGGED CAUCUS VOTES

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEPYVqU6sXw&feature=relatedNG[/quote]
     
  5. erikc76

    erikc76 New Member

    What shocks me about South Carolina is the day before the election, Ron Paul was speaking to a crowd of over 1000 supporters. Meanwhile, elsewhere in South Carolina, Newt Gingrich canceled his speaking engagements due to lack of attendance. Aside from that, I've been following website and Google search trends for each candidate and Ron Paul has more activity than all candidates combined times two! Granted, this is biased towards young people but it goes to show that Ron Paul is absolutely not the long shot that the mainstream/corporate-owned media wants you to believe.
     
  6. HollysMom

    HollysMom New Member

    *meh* I'm not into conspiracy theories. People are fallible. There is no reason to believe that the second count is any more accurate than the first one. What would be needed is a third vote to ensure that one result or the other is closer to accurate and, preferably, as many counts as would be needed to have the results replicated at least one time.

    I admit I wonder about Ron Paul. Newt Gingrich worries me.
     
  7. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Ron Paul simply picks a few populist ideas that no one else in his party dares vocalize that single issue voters respond to and then they are so focused on their one issue that they forget to look at the rest of Ron Paul's positions. Why do you think a 76-year old man has mostly supporters under 30-years old? Not the most savvy group of voters by any stretch are they?
     
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  8. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    So true....that was proven in '08!!
     
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  9. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    You're right! I forgot Paul also ran in 2008. :eek:
     
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  10. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    LOL Touche you walked right into that one, Davids point is quite valid LOL many of those who voted for President Obama were indeed under 30 :D
     
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  11. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Yeah, but not because Obama thought pot should be legal.
     
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  12. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    ....because they were led to believe everything would be free....
     
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  13. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Because Right-wing talking points are reality for you now or because you are just that gullible? Take your pick.
     
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  14. HollysMom

    HollysMom New Member

    Oh, come now, Moen--the "Obama Girl?" The woman who wanted her "Obama money?" Even you have to admit to those.
     
  15. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Heck, just get out & about in the community. People are still talking about it.
     
  16. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Hahaha.. I wonder if Obama ever paid for her gas and her mortgage:

     
  17. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Or this one:



    Oh, sorry that one was a video of ultra-liberal Rachel Maddow finally waking up and condemning Obama over "Indefinite Detention".
     
  18. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    I doubt that kid was even old enough to vote. I also think taking one kid's opinion and transferring it to all black people is a fairly unrealistic (being nice here) way to paint the entire black community. You actually have to believe that all black people are really, really stupid and greedy and immature to equate what the "Obama girl" said with all black people in general. You aren't really making that argument are you?
     
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  19. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    That's not an argument. That is an "I'm right, you go out and prove me right" statement.



    Do you think Hispanics shouldn't be excited if Marco Rubio gets the VP nod? Should they be silent as not to offend white people? I believe that anyone of a color or a different ethnicity should be excited to see someone of their background achieve one of the highest offices in the land since that office has had only white men in it for over 230 years.



    It makes them feel like part of this country in spite of all the bigotry this country is known for. Why shouldn't they be a little excited? As a white person, even I was a little excited to be part of history in electing Obama. The world even looks at us as a little more open-minded because they generally think of the U.S. as a fairly racist society which of course we are.
     
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  20. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    You know, a sure sign that you are losing an argument is when you inject the racial component. I don't believe it was only black people expecting a free ride based on BO's campaign lies (as you seem to imply)...BO was definitely an equal opportunity panderer.
     
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