More Violent Protests in Egypt - This Time It's Against Christians

You say the word "god" like it's an exclusively conservative term. As you know, there are plenty of liberals who believe in "god". Now, I don't want this to turn into a religious discussion because I couldn't care less whether you believe in "god" or not. I just wanted to point out that your use of the word "god" in conjunction with your tirades against conservatives exclusively is just a bit disingenuous, wouldn't you agree?

 

No, I wouldn't actually. I try to make it a point to refer to THEIR god. Their god is clearly a different entity than the one my religious friends worship.

 

Thanks for expounding on that. But, I would agree.

 

Sorry. I added to to but not soon enough.

 

Hahahh. OK. I'll leave it at that. This isn't the place for religious discussion.

 

The thread title suggests otherwise.

 

The topic of this thread was to point out the violent protests in Egypt which, in this case, just happened to be against Christians. If you want to go into a discussion about religion and whether or not you believe in "god" or a "supreme being" or whatever I feel that those topics would be better served in the Religion Forum.

 

Well aren't you special.

 

In this case the two are intertwined, so it would fit into either forum. It is here though, and religion is a component of the OP. There really is no point in trying to dissuade religious discussion in a political/religious thread. To be honest, you're only hurting yourself in the attempt, by making yourself look too weak to debate the issue.

 

Very well, since this is a political forum, I'd like your opinion on the manifestation of stigmata, glossolalia, the Summa Theologica and Qadar. This ought to make for such interesting political dialogue. Proceed...

 

At my leisure. Stigmata is the only one I recognise. From what I recall it's the manifestation of wounds sufferred by Christ on the cross. It is thought to occur when someone has lost faith in the World, and is suffering the wounds in the manner of Christ from the sadness, the despair they feel. From what I remember it's not overly empathic people though, rather those who personally feel that despair.

 

Keep going. Feel free to talk about any religious topic you would like...

 

I was thinking the same thing about rich people who complain they pay too much taxes. In the 50s and 60s they must have been screaming.

 

As it has developed a into a somewhat religiouse thread I have moved it

 

Takiji

While there is no definitive proof, because its science and even gravity is never "definitively" proven or defined, there is some evidence that religion is not a choice but a function of a combination of genetic predispositions and sociological factors.

http://www.humanismtoday.org/vol13/kurtz.html

So, again, not definitive. But maybe enough to get you to back off a bit about the whole religion thing?

 

I was of two minds on that... but yeah, probably better here lol

 

I have no problem with the idea that humankind is predisposed to believe in magic. In fact I'm sure we are. And obviously one of religion's most useful functions is as a means of social control and in certain times and places this can be useful for the survival of the group. But the fact that religion in a general sense may have arisen organically through the aeons still leaves the ultimate choices regarding what to accept and what not to accept in the hands of the individual. One's predisposition toward the transcendental does not take away one's options or relieve one of personal responsibility for one's choices in making that predisposition manifest. Again, no one is born a Mormon.

So in response to your last comment, I will be happy to back off of the theocrats as soon as they decide to back off me. And it's the theocrats I'm attacking. You'll not see me going after the UCC.

 

With all due respect my internet friend, there is magic in the world. It is life and it is love I am sure you have felt one and if you look at the other close enough as well as deep enough you may see it as well in the trees, the kids, everywhere..

 

If you are talking about the magic of being in this amazing place, and I think you are, that's my kind of magic. My friends are real rather than imaginary and I don't need made up miracles. The genuine ones are much better. Even if I understand how they work they are still miracles. And when I don't know, I don't know. And most things I never will understand. I'm comfortable with that, although I won't stop trying. And just because I don't understand it doesn't follow that that there is some kind of super being who does. I guess that kind of sums it up for me.

 

Good, so you do believe in magic so that means you have a good life.