So you're saying a family of 5 making $22,000 a year should pay the same percentage as a single guy making $150,000 a year? Do you even understand why that is a complete stupid idea?
How many times has this thread been hijacked already. Not that I am casting any stones or anything. http://youtu.be/IUwI23h1FeE
You are minimizing the importance of the poverty line. People below that line are in need of that refund much, much more than people in the higest tax-bracket like you. No offense meant... but is it really that dfficult for you to comprehend that?
Just a quick word to the wise. Don't let the government keep your money all year long. Try to balance your tax burden monthly so that you keep more money each month and earn interest on it. A lot of people like to think of a tax refund as something of a "big payday" while all along it was their money to begin with. In fact, they aren't getting as much money as they could have gotten with the added interest.
Yep, I know. There are a couple of reasons why I have those taxes withheld. One is that if I don't withhold it, I'll spend it. By withholding those taxes I force myself to 'save' for a year, and are then able to have use of that 'savings' at tax-time. It's a temporary savings essentially. The other reason is that the amount I have withheld is not enough to create and maintain a savings account. At a certain income, where one has expendable money, a savings account can be properly maintained. I'm not at that level lol
Have you considered working harder/more to improve your situation? Considered going back to school to make yourself more employable?
What does have to do with what we are talking about? I understand & accept that I don't get a refund....heck, I'm thankful when I don't have to pay a bunch more in! Now explain that "shared sacrifice" to me again....
I'm going to take a wild guess and say that the answers are probably pretty obvious to most people, including you. I'll also say that your answer is probably significantly different than the majority of other people's answers.
I'm having a hard time believing you've worked your way to success, from poverty to riches, by yourself. I'm guessing you had more than a little help throughout that effort. I'm not saying you didn't work hard though, I'm sure you did, it's just that you don't seem to be able to grasp the simplest of concepts... I can't imagine how you could have managed the effort on your own and succeed. Or am I wrong? No one gave you anything on your rise up? If not, I'm impressed... I mean, at times I wonder if you wear loafers 'cause I can't imagine you being able to tie your own shoes...
What kind of help are you referring to? I've had a lot of support along the way (not much in the monetary sense though). I guess my first big achievement was in college when I bought a business I had been working for for $500. I sold it just after graduation for a tidy profit. I guess I just always had a pretty strong work ethic though.
Money is the big help, but contacts... favors from friends... are advantages that not all people have too. I was wondering if you had absolutely no financial assistance from your parents (or whoever) when you started. I know someone who did the same thing, bought into a franchise relatively cheap and made it a 30 year career, and came from poverty. So it's possible, but that situation was unique to her... and can't be applied (like a stamp) to everyone else. IMO, everyone is unique, every situation is unique, and a lot of your comments ignore those facts and demand an equality that isn't possible in reality.
No franchise involved. I worked 3rd shift at one of the major overnight delivery carriers as my main job while in school. I picked up a second job delivering/picking up aircraft batteries for a guy who re-charged them & re-conditioned them. I saw the potential & convinced him to let me take over the business (it was side thing for him). I bought the equipment for $500 and turned it into a thriving little enterprise. After I graduated college I sold the business for a sizeable profit. Heck, I even kept that 3rd shift job for nearly a year after graduation, after I had begun my career at the bank.
ALL RW'er think that they made it on their own. They have no concept of white privilege, they have no concept of family money, they have no concept of inheriting the family farm. THEY MADE IT ON THEIR OWN DAMN IT! You know how to tell that they are lying other than when their lips are moving? Just about anyone you will ever meet that has actually pulled themselves out of crushing poverty has a great deal more sympathy for those that haven't more than any RW'er could possibly express. They are too busy judging the people still in poverty and blaming them to actually have sympathy and understanding for the situation that they were born into.
All leftist want you to think it's impossible to make it without the help of the benevolent government. They have no concept of hardwork, self reliance & personal responsibility. In reality, liberalism breeds dependency & fosters stupidity. It get wrapped in pretty little feel good packages & is sold just like a drug. Leftists understand that the message of "relax & let the gov't provide" plays better than anything requiring sewat & effort.
Did you mis-type that? Should you meant to have typed, "depended on someone else to pull him out of crushing poverty"? Saying that someone "pulled themselves out of crushing poverty" really goes against the grain of your philosophy that "it takes a village"... and all that nonsense. Utter Nonsense. Here is an article from ABC News' 20/20 from 2006: Who Gives and Who Doesn't? There are a million ways to give to charity. Toy drives, food drives, school supply drives…telethons, walkathons, and dance-athons. But just who is doing the giving? Three quarters of American families donate to charity, giving $1,800 each, on average. Of course, if three quarters give, that means that one quarter don't give at all. So what distinguishes those who give from those who don't? It turns out there are many myths about that. Sioux Falls vs. San Francisco We assume the rich give more than the middle class, the middle class more than the poor. I've heard liberals care more about the less fortunate, so we assume they give more than conservatives do. Are these assumptions truth, or myth? To test what types of people give more, "20/20" went to two very different parts of the country, with contrasting populations: Sioux Falls, S.D. and San Francisco, Calif. The Salvation Army set up buckets at the busiest locations in each city -- Macy's in San Francisco and Wal-Mart in Sioux Falls. Which bucket collected more money? Sioux Falls is rural and religious; half of the population goes to church every week. People in San Francisco make much more money, are predominantly liberal, and just 14 percent of people in San Francisco attend church every week. Liberals are said to care more about helping the poor; so did people in San Francisco give more? It turns out that this idea that liberals give more…is a myth. Of the top 25 states where people give an above average percent of their income, 24 were red states in the last presidential election. Arthur Brooks, the author of "Who Really Cares," says that "when you look at the data, it turns out the conservatives give about 30 percent more." He adds, "And incidentally, conservative-headed families make slightly less money." And he says the differences in giving goes beyond money, pointing out that conservatives are 18 percent more likely to donate blood. He says this difference is not about politics, but about the different way conservatives and liberals view government. "You find that people who believe it's the government's job to make incomes more equal, are far less likely to give their money away," Brooks says. In fact, people who disagree with the statement, "The government has a basic responsibility to take care of the people who can't take care of themselves," are 27 percent more likely to give to charity. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2682730&page=1
