Small Businesses Say Taxes And Regulation Aren’t Holding Back Hiring

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  1. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Oops! There goes all the con's talking points.

    Contrary To GOP Claims, Small Businesses Say Taxes And Regulation Aren’t Holding Back Hiring
    By Pat Garofalo on Sep 2, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Predictably, Republicans reacted to today’s dismal jobs number — which showed that zero net jobs were created in August — by blaming the supposed avalanche of taxes and regulations put in place by the Obama administration. “Private-sector job growth continues to be undermined by the triple threat of higher taxes, more failed ‘stimulus’ spending, and excessive federal regulations. Together, these Washington policies have created a fog of uncertainty that’s left small businesses unable to hire and American families worried about the future,” said House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) in a statement today.

    However, McClatchy conducted a survey of small business and found that they don’t blame taxes or regulations for their hesitancy to hire:

    Politicians and business groups often blame excessive regulation and fear of higher taxes for tepid hiring in the economy. However, little evidence of that emerged when McClatchy canvassed a random sample of small business owners across the nation. [...]
    McClatchy reached out to owners of small businesses, many of them mom-and-pop operations, to find out whether they indeed were being choked by regulation, whether uncertainty over taxes affected their hiring plans and whether the health care overhaul was helping or hurting their business.
    Their response was surprising.
    None of the business owners complained about regulation in their particular industries, and most seemed to welcome it. Some pointed to the lack of regulation in mortgage lending as a principal cause of the financial crisis that brought about the Great Recession of 2007-09 and its grim aftermath.

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/09/02/310818/small-business-contradicts-gop-taxes-regulation/
     
  2. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    The reporter's name is "Garofalo"... what do you expect?
     
  3. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    You missed uncertainty in your blame. Some quotes from the original article http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/09/01/122865/regulations-taxes-arent-killing.html#ixzz1WnAbTmEQ
    Regulations and uncertainty.
    Uncertainty.
    Regulations.

    BTW, from what I can glean from his story (and that is all it is), he has merely compiled data from newspaper stories for several people (5 ish).
     
  4. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Meaning what?
     
  5. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    The uncertainty you are referring to is an issue for larger corporations not the sector of the economy that actually does most of the hiring i.e. small businesses. Therefore your point is moot.
     
  6. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    I expect bias from anyone named "Garofalo".
     
  7. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    The uncertainty I am referring to are direct quotes from original article cited by your reference -
    Regulations, taxes aren't killing small business, owners say

    By Kevin G. Hall | McClatchy Newspapers


    So you are disagreeing with your own article/reference. How interesting.
     
  8. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    You better let them in on this little nugget because I don't think "small business" agrees with you.
     
  9. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    Insurance. Unnecessary, expensive, and required. "There's your problem" lol
     
  10. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Be-caaaaaaause?
     
  11. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    If you've ever been in any sort of forecasting or budget meeting expenses and tax liability are usually 2 of the main items to discuss. So, yes, the expenses associated with Obamacare's Great Unknown are a major concern. It would be irresponsible for a business not to be cautious right now.
     
  12. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    So now you are ignoring the facts of your "story"? Facts making a problem for you again?
     
  13. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    The issue which the local Right-wingers are having a hard time addressing is that their party leaders have been saying all along that businesses are not hiring because of high taxes and restrictive regulations. Busniesses on the other hand cite a lack of customers that are actually able to purchase their products. We all know that taxes haven't been as low as they are today in the last 50 years. Given these facts, what do you make of the con's arguments or their position?
    View attachment 229 Yeah, that is what I was thinking too.
     
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  14. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Most small businesses aren't in the housing market last time I checked.
     
  15. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    I am citing what your references you originally used. I did not invent those quotes. They came directly from your sources. So now you are telling me your sources are meaningless?. You are doing a very good job of tearing your own premise apart. So far you have managed to debase nearly (all?) your entire first post and all I had to do was quote your own references. So why did you even bother to post it?
     
  16. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Another person named Garafalo:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janeane_Garofalo

    Pat Garafalo is associated with the Center for American Progress, The Guardian and he's appeared on Al-Jazeera. He's a typical left-wingnut just like the famous comedienne who shares his last name.
     
  17. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    No, you're wrong. Businesses have ZERO confidence in BO and have no idea what their liabilities will look like next year or even next month. BO runs around the country delivering his incoherent & inconsistent visions (depending on his audience). It's been my experience, dealing with business owners, that they have no idea what the true price of Obamacare will be totheir business & no one responsible for dumping it on us is capable of answering the questions. It also doesn't help that BO & his minions are demanding huge tax increases on the very people who own the small businesses....and, as dr moen, phd, readily admits it is small business that creates the majority of the jobs in this country. Kinda confuding policy BO is chasing, isn't it?
     
  18. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Let me see, I could take your biased opinion or the opinion of actual small business owners. Hum? What to do? Oh yeah your opinion keeps being proved as nothing more than crap.
     
  19. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    So far the the regulations cited in your OP don't count (your words), the uncertainty cited for small businesses in you OP only apply to big businesses (your words), 20% of the businesses cited in your OP aren't typical because they are/were in the housing market (your words), the personal experiences of David are "biased", but still you and Mr. Garofalo know better. I guess you are just validating your post;
    However, in this case, I must use the tern "poll" loosely since his poll appears to be several newspaper articles he read.
     
  20. vess1

    vess1 "Birds of a feather...."

    I could have saved this author the time. So you're saying a typical mom and pop operation in a small town that employs two or three workers to get the job done, doesn't need to go on a hiring binge to meet the small town's demands, regardless of the economy or what the federal government is doing?? Hmmm, you don't say.
     

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