Talk about Leadership-From-Behind

Discussion in 'Politics' started by David, Aug 17, 2011.

  1. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    I was wrong! Apparently Obama has only had 61 days of vacation at the same point Bush had taken 180 days. That's approx 1/3 not half as much.
     
  2. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Been around long before 1972. It used to be called "mob mentality".
     
  3. jth

    jth New Member

  4. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Still waiting for you to actualy explain your comments rather than give out cryptic answers that say nothing, you took 3 posts that had nothing to do with each other two totaly out of the order I posted them in and another that I never wrote and act like they mean something??
     
  5. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    (Looks for David)...I don't see him, but I think I can answer that for ya... watch the Office, all the answers are in there... I guess.

    I've never watched that show myself, it's not reality tv LOL

    By the way Orc... we're supposed to be enemies (you being conservative, me being... well, me) so I'll try not to agree with you anymore. We started off good way back when "You WANT me to boot you? I'll boot you if that's what you want!" LOL ...(sighs)...the good ol' days...
     
  6. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    ...what was the question? lol
     
  7. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    That's kind of creepy- why would you be looking for me?
     
  8. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    NO NO in America British Conservatives are really liberal Socialists or some such what on earth did that make Tony Blair then? After all he was the Best ally that President Bush Junior had and how did his father or President Reagan ever get on with Mrs Thatcher that notorious left leaning red liberal?
     
  9. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    De Orc said:
    You see what I mean straight away it is attack the other party instead of been willing to accept that both are equaly at fault!​
    Interesting observation, but;

    De Orc said:
    Can I ask what plans any other politician has put forwards to reduce the unemployment rate David? from either party I hasten to add​

    Moen1305 said:
    With a 9.5 unemployment rate, Reagan took a 25 day vacation. George Bush had taken twice as much vacation at this point as Obama has taken. I think if the Right wishes to criticize the president, they should at least have a better grasp of their own history. Of course having a grasp of what they did yesterday would probably be a stretch.​

    I assume this is the questioned post. And I will further assume that I need not explain your first quote. And, yes, I know the definition of assume.​
    As for your second line, because you do not agree with the Republican proposed bills does not mean that they have never proposed them. Just to mention a couple, the Ryan budget, Cut, Cap, and Balance, and just about every Rep has requested Obama care be disbanded. However, every one of those has been blocked by the dips. (See, it works both ways.) So because you disagree with their proposals, you straight away it is attack the other party instead of been willing to accept that both are equally at fault.​
    As for moen's quote, he did not like (or agree with) BO being attacked for taking vacation, so he tried to demonstrate that the Reps were worse. He straight away attacked the other party instead of been willing to accept that both are equally at fault.​
     
  10. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    I thought you might be hiring lol
     
  11. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    I'm not certain, but he always had a twinkle in his eye when she was near...
     
  12. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    As soon as our confidence level increases we will. Right now we are too uncertain about what our expenses will look like in the months to come- will BO increase taxes? What's the real cost of Obamacare going to be? It would just be too irresponsible to act without knowing.
     
  13. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Clown Hater

    Uh oh, more crackerjack box psychology lessons from the professor.
     
  14. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Clown Hater

    You are saying that Bush took off 1/2 of a year in his first 2 1/2 years in office.
     
  15. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Actually, that is the number even Fox is bouncing around, except I really doubt that much of theit time is really "off". Out of the office does not equate to off the job.
     
  16. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Clown Hater

    I want proof, let's break out the attendance record.
     
  17. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Now I have to doubt what I just wrote. If Fox confirmed it, I am going to have to be suspicious. Ohhhh! I have to sit down.
     
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  18. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Actually what I pointed out is that while the cons are taking cheap shots at Obama for taking a vacation, they have actually elected guys from their party that abused the vacation taking far more than the guy that they are currently criticizing. It's not that they are both at fault as much as the fact that the cons are a bunch of hypocrites.
     
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  19. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Actually, I saw one of those BS-meter type reports which compared the "vacation" time of Bush & Obama. The vast majority of Bush's time away was spent at either Camp David or his Crawford, TX ranch....both were fully staffed & fully equipped to function as the President's office. BO, on the other hand, spent a lot of time at simple vacation spots where the same sort of functionality wasn't possible. I believe I saw this on either C-Span or CNN.
    But, all that aside, I think we are all better off when BO spends as much time away from the job as possible. If you really cared about the country you would be encouraging BO to take as much vacation time as he can. In fact, I'd be willing to pony up some flyer miles & get him a ticket to Europe or any destination of his choice if one of you guys will pick up the hotel tab. Oh, that's a one-way ticket by the way.
     
  20. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Hmmmmm? To quote something I heard before, "You see what I mean straight away it is attack the other party instead of been willing to accept that both are equaly at fault!"
     

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