Wisconsin recall?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by rlm's cents, Aug 10, 2011.

  1. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Actually, just the opposite. It's happening- I see it every day in my line of work...that's the scary part! Businesses are scared to death to pull the trigger on workforce expansion because they have no idea what it will cost them to operate in the future.
     
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  2. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    And I would take your highly partisan opinion for that why?????
     
  3. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Umm, it's not really an opinion- in this case it's a reality the far left will deny.
     
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  4. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    You obvious will not since he is a member of your ignore list. That is why you miss all the information you need.
     
  5. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    You know, I just remembered that I see exactly the opposite happening in my line of work.
     
  6. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    See, now you're lying again. You have whined numerous times on this board about how your school has laid off & cutback and now you want us to believe just the opposite? Puhleeeze.
     
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  7. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Maybe it is YOU that is lying? I've actually never said layoffs but we have had plenty of rescissions and decreasing state support. And what does that have to do with the new health care law? Nothing but your inability to follow a conversation.
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    So you did not make this post?
     
  9. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    OOPS!!
     
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  10. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    Well...now the are willing to talk about the bad legislation they rammed through after they figure out that the whole union busting crap will be voted out next election. TOO LATE. Pigs.
     
  11. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    I don't work at that school and I didn't write that article. How is that in any way me saying that we had layoffs at my insitution? Just curious.
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Since you hide your identity, I did not know, so how about this one?
     
  13. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    I don't trust your quoting abilities and I'd like to see the context this post was in. Post a link.
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    That quote is a link! All you have to do is click on the little arrow right after "Moen1305 said:"
     
  15. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Thanks. It didn't work the last time I tried to click the link.

    However, David said, "See, now you're lying again. You have whined numerous times on this board about how your school has laid off & cutback and now you want us to believe just the opposite? Puhleeeze." As you can see, I didn't say that we had layoffs, I said that "lay-offs are likely outcomes as a result". Saying that they may occur isn't the same as saying that they did occur.
     
  16. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Gee, I guess it depends on what the definition of "is" is, huh?
     
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  17. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    No you're are just plain wrong. No issue with definitions, alternate meanings, or misquotes, you're simply wrong about what you thought I said.
     
  18. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Well, I guess I'm glad to hear the catastrophe was diverted at your school. Please tell us how you avoided the storm you predicted.
     
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  19. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Mainly, the Stimulus. Now that the Stimulus is over we have no idea what is going to happen. We know that our budget or state allocation is going from around 25% of our income or operating budget to somewhere in the single digits. Where do you think a universities can make up the difference when their incomes are cut? In all likelihood from higher tuition and fees.
    Cutting expenses doesn't really save you all that much since between 90 to 95 percent of our expenses are salaries, not high salaries but a lot of people working for low salaries. I think our president makes about 300K a year. Can you imagine any CEO of any private sector business making 300K a year? I doubt it.
    If you cut positions you also cut enrollments because you can't offer more classes with less personnel at some point and we reached that point years ago. If you cut enrollments you end up only decreasing your income from tuition. Our wiggle room is nonexistent at this point. Unless you feel that we should all be working for free in which case you are advocating Socialism and I know you aren't doing that.
     
  20. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Dunno. I guess if your company can't sustain itself you'll have to close up shop. Now I'm sure there are a multitude of things a creative, experienced administrator can do to prevent that from happening. Perhaps a pay cut/pay freeze? Lower tuition may actually increase enrollment- Larger class sizes? Require teaching personnel to take on an additional class? More fundraising? Just throwing a few things out there. My guess is the school will probably just raise tuition and promote the ease of financing the cost over the next 20 years or so.
     
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