When you put the fox in charge of the hen house, don’t be surprised if your nests are empty in the mornings. 800+ state legislative bills written by corporations leaked: In April 2011, some of the biggest corporations in the U.S. met behind closed doors in Cincinnati about their wish lists for changing state laws. This exchange was part of a series of corporate meetings nurtured and fueled by the Koch Industries family fortune and other corporate funding. At an extravagant hotel gilded just before the Great Depression, corporate executives from the tobacco giant R.J. Reynolds, State Farm Insurance, and other corporations were joined by their "task force" co-chairs -- all Republican state legislators -- to approve “model” legislation. They jointly head task forces of what is called the “American Legislative Exchange Council” (ALEC). There, as the Center for Media and Democracy has learned, these corporate-politician committees secretly voted on bills to rewrite numerous state laws. According to the documents we have posted to ALEC Exposed, corporations vote as equals with elected politicians on these bills. These task forces target legal rules that reach into almost every area of American life: worker and consumer rights, education, the rights of Americans injured or killed by corporations, taxes, health care, immigration, and the quality of the air we breathe and the water we drink. The Center obtained copies of more than 800 model bills approved by companies through ALEC meetings, after one of the thousands of people with access shared them, and a whistleblower provided a copy to the Center. Those bills, which the Center has analyzed and marked-up, are now available at ALEC Exposed. Articles > 800+ state legislative bills written by corporations leaked:
You didn't think legislators came up with what's in bills, did you? The lobbyists do that. For both sides.
Thank you. Someone understands the system. Despite whoever writes the bill, it is still the legislature's responsibility for what they passed.
So "We the People" means what? Nothing? I do know that there are many politicians that write their own legislation. It's usually the stuff that gets voted down in favor of the corporate sponsored bills.
Would you feel the same way if Unions got together and voted on which bills to enact with Democratic lawmakers? If you are going to say that it already happens, prove it to me. I've just proven that Republicans do it.
We have a corrupt 2 party system run by lobbyists. Heck, most of the lobbying is done to staffers who then tell the politicians. Politicians can;t be bothered with that stuff. Politicians make speeches and try to stay in office. Getting together to vote on what they all want is not much different than calling them all together for days in secret meetings to hash out what they will accept in a bill (like Dead Ted did for the healthcare legislation).
Whoa, there. I never ever said that companies, unions, lobbyist, etc voted on any bill in congress and you have not remotely proven that they took any congressman's place and voted for any bill. And if you believe that unions have not written bills just like the companies, you live in La La land. BTW, the last time I checked, it still took the Senate (dip controlled) and the President (dip-in-charge) to pass and enact any bill.
I realize that the article is somewhat long, not really, and there are a lot of big words but, did any of you actually read and understand what you were reading. For example: There, as the Center for Media and Democracy has learned, these corporate-politician committees secretly voted on bills to rewrite numerous state laws. According to the documents we have posted to ALEC Exposed, corporations vote as equals with elected politicians on these bills. These task forces target legal rules that reach into almost every area of American life: worker and consumer rights, education, the rights of Americans injured or killed by corporations, taxes, health care, immigration, and the quality of the air we breathe and the water we drink. And this is just the way it is eh? You guys do know that in any crisis, the sheep get eaten first. Sheepeople aren't far behind.
Maybe this was the reason BO did not show the Obamacare bill "sausage making" on C-span. Ja think so? Again, the problem is not how the bill got to BO's desk, it is with the legislators who voted for it (or oddly enough maybe even against it). They are the only ones with a say on what becomes or does not become law.
I don't think it is a matter of who votes for what or how the system works as it is a matter of whose interests are being represented. In the case I have laid out, it certainly isn't ours.
So if you don't like it, it is bad but if I don't like it, it is good. I guess I would expect no less from you.
The AFL-CIO was also part of the gang of lobbyists who sat down with Ted in back-room negotiations and decided that everyone would have to have health insurance or pay a fine if they didn't.