"The American People"

Someone please tell me who the heck republicans (aka John Tanman Boehner) are referring to when they say "The American People" want....blah, blah, blah???
Who are these people exactly? Noby I know think it refers to them. Who? The American wealthy elitist maybe? Sure ain't us regular American people. Can't they just call a spade a spade, and say "Their corporate buddies" instead?

 

A lot of them are probably your fundamentalist preaching, gay bashing, trailer hitch ballz sporting, pickup driving buddies. And some are anti-Democrats or anti-government folks. And a smaller some of them are the rich folks.

 

That's because no one you know is an American. Everyone you know is either an anti-American terrorist, a foreign national or an extraterrestrial. Hell, I'm convinced even you are not an American.

 

I hear this preface from Republicans constantly, "The American People" want this or that. However, when I look to the polls on the subject, it always contradicts exactly what they are saying about the American people. Where is this group of American people they are always referring to? I know that the American people want jobs. Where are the jobs bills the Republicans ran on providing? When have they even discussed doing something about jobs that didn't involve tax cuts for the wealthy? 70-80 percent of people polled say they want to raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans yet the Boehner stands up and says that the American people don't want tax increases. I guess when your only constituency is the 2% of wealthiest Americans, the American people really don't want you to raise taxes. I guess Boehner is talking about the American people that live in the Hamptons and other gated communities. Oh! Those Americans! How dumb would the rest of the 98% of Americans have to be to listen to the Republicans telling us what we want when in reality, it is really the upper 2% they are talking about? Well, many of have figure this out and can only shake our heads at those that haven't.

 

That's funny, the politician that speaks about what the American people want more than anyone else is Barrack Obama.

 

You still have not learned that the American people elected the Reps with a mandate to reign in the government (spending?). When the government gets their fingers out of everyone pockets and other areas, our economy will do just fine at creating jobs. So long as BO and his compadres insist on putting roadblocks in everyone's way, there are going to be problems.

 

In your opinon? Because as you've written this it sounds as if you have proof that Obama says this more often than anyone else. How exactly do you know that?

 

Then why the hell did the American people vote for Obama?

 

They wanted to believe his lies. They also voted for Carter and then Reagan. Go figure.

 

The same reason you believe that mediamatters is truthful and "Fox News is the biggest source of media misinformation".
The same reason you believe that "Fox News is giving significantly less coverage to the story than CNN and MSNBC".

 

So then how can you claim that you know what the American people want? I think they just want it(whatever it is)to be better. And they give anyone a try to achieve that.

 

I think you will find what they want most is a leader. Reagan and Clinton (despite my objections) did that. Even Bush 2 was not that bad. A leader does not just sit back and say "Congress, do something" and bow to all the foreign leaders.

 

The American people again eh? Midterms never equal mandates simply because the voter turnout is so low. Only 41.5% of eligible voters voted in the 2010 midterms. Assuming the percentage that voted Republican was greater than the percentage that voted Democrat because they won many of the seats, you are talking at best 20-25% of the American population. If 20-25% of the eligible voters is a mandate in your opinion, then you should really go back to school and take a serious math class. I suspect that you felt exactly the same way when Obama with a much larger voter turnout trounced McCain but still had the Republicans doing everything they could to prevent him from governing with his mandate. Mandates are a joke and so are those that believe in them.

 

Are you trying to justify your own unpopular decisions? A rough translation of that is "Our mandate was more meaningful than your mandate". And so "Mandates are a joke and so are those that believe in them". Really?

 

The majority of American people (and people in general) are easily manipulated. When anyone says they are speaking for the "American people" it should be obvious that they are trying to manipulate you and others into believing what they say, regardless of the truth of their statements. But most people don't bother to verify the information they receive, or are not intelligent enough to realize they are being manipulated.

Repeat a lie often enough and even non-gullible people will begin to believe it to be the truth. As an example, (& IMO) the FOX network uses this technique to rile Republicans into a frenzy of hate for anyone not Republican.

Everyone is suseptable to believing these lies to one degree or another. That's why it works, and why they will continue to say they are speaking for everyone.

 

Except for the fact that I nor anyone else that I have heard has said that Obama has a mandate unlike the words you just penned. Speaking of unpopular, how 'bout those midwestern Republican governors that also believed that they had a mandate? Seems more than a few of them have found out just how unpopular their decisions are in the last 6 months. You fall off the train of logic once again.

 

I agree completely but for one caveat. I don't believe that it is "most" people but I do believe it is most people on the Right. They fall for this manipulation hook, line, and sinker and then justify their own lack of intelligence by saying that the Left is just as fooled as they are by politically manipulative messages.
The reason that this is completely a silly stance to adopt is because if I found out that I was being manipulated, I sure as heck wouldn't justify my own naiveté by saying that those people over there are also being manipulated and then go right on being manipulated. That's just goes beyond comprehension as far as reactions to finding out that you are being manipulated and yet that is their response every time. Watch.

 

I can think of two who have. The first was you. "...Republicans doing everything they could to prevent him from governing with his mandate." I also seem to remember a meeting with your god and McCain and god told McCain to go pound salt because we won and you lost. Now, those were not his exact words, but believe me that was their meaning.

 

Mandates are just the electorate choosing the other crappy choice because the crappy choice they made in the last election didn't fix things like they said they could. The new crap will look a lot like the old crap come the next election cycle. And so it continues until things get better...mostly on their own...then, the party lucky enough to be in power when that happens will mostly stay there until the crap hits the fan again. Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

And you actually believed that wasn't sarcasm after you read, "Mandates are a joke and so are those that believe in them." You are slow aren't you?

I don't have any idea what you "remember" but given the way you usually "remember" I don't put a lot faith in your opinions. If Obama did put McCain in his place after winning the election using some harsh language, I don't see how that is equivalent to saying that he has a mandate. Having a mandate is a very specific type of political rhetoric with a very specific meaning. I do remember Bush saying it. You know Bush, YOUR God! People who believe that they have mandates in politics are idiots and so are the people that believe them.

If you fall back on you accusation of me as someone that is just throwing insults at you, know this. I consider you about as bright as an unplugged small appliance with a burned out 15 watt bulb. I am not so much insulting you as I am talking down to your level.