The Big Tax Question

Hmmmm! Those are exactly the names I most associate with the Tea Party. Funny how it works that way.

 

That's because they ARE Tea Party supported folks. Like I said, their is no difference between the Tea Party and the Republican Party in the end.

 

Just looking at who was President and blaming their party for the spending during that time period is unfair and you know it. The Bush administration Republicans spent like drunken sailors and they paid for it in the midterm elections. In Obama's first two years, Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the Presidency and they paid for their spending in the midterms as well.

And your cavalier attitude towards the issue is a real problem. I made a fiscally responsible request that all revenue from tax increases be used for the stated reason for raising taxes. Democrats have stated that they must raise taxes in order to reduce the deficit. To use that money for anything else makes each of them a liar. But you seem not to care as long as some of it is used for what is intended. The rest goes to their little pet projects which they can brag about to their constituents to buy those important votes for the next election.

 

Republicans want the default, so they can blame Obama. It'll happen, trust me. Republicans are in their own little world and see everything through those elitist glasses. We have two parties in America. One that does the work (the middle class), and one who collects the money (republicans).

 

That is not what Republicans want you moron. If that happens, corporate America will blame the Republicans for the ensuing financial collapse and withdrawal their support from the Republican party. Since you are the one who incessantly claims that the Republican party is in bed with corporate America, you should not be making such a ridiculous claim.

However, the President was correct when he pointed out that many Republicans (specifically Tea Party reps) backed themselves into a corner when they pledged not to raise the debt ceiling under any circumstances. My prediction is that the Reid-McConnell plan or some variation will pass before the deadline averting the crisis. The drama we witnessed last night was just political posturing by the Republicans so that the President couldn't claim that he swooped in and saved the day.

 

Everyone seems to be a moron that doesn't agree with you. Ya know, despite all of my objections, disagreements, and differences of opinion with you and your views, somehow I thought you were more than someone just speaking through a wealth coated prism, and thought you could be a decent person, despite the appearance.. I retract anything that resembled that perception previously. You are a full fledged, republican, elitist supporter with no other agenda than supporting your warped perception of elitist reality. Money adores money. That's about all there is to it with you. Whatever aligns with the cash flow and the silver spoon crowd, the crowd of "we want it all and more" is all you represent. I confused you with humanity. I was in error.

Please forgive the outburst, but I feel better now.

 

Tom,

I called you a moron, not because you disagreed with me, but because you contradicted yourself. That contradiction was a direct result of your motive to discredit Republicans at all costs. It means that you don't even think about what you say, in other words, you are full of crap.

I am a Republican, but a moderate one. Hell, I gave the President credit in my second paragraph of my last post. What right wing Republican would do that? I also think that a balanced bi-partisan approach is the only way to solve this problem, just like the President has said. What right wing Republican would say that?

Unlike you, I don't have a political agenda on this ridiculous little forum. As a result, my posts are genuine unlike yours. You seemed to have chilled for a while, but then your lunacy returned with a vengeance. If you would try to make individual points that support your views, you would be taken much more seriously than you are now with incessant posts full of left wing propaganda and conspiracies.

 

The real problem was probably what you posted in another thread you Filthy Rich, Wealthy, Greedy, Opulent, Made of Money, Money Money Money Money, Expensive Champagne Drinker.

With him, I think it is all about the Benjamins. And the anus. But mostly the Benjamins.

 

Well, I do love champagne!

 

..and you should. You've earned it! If we could only get cheaper labor to deliver it 24/7 :/

 

Are you willing to take a paycut?

 

You don't want me to deliver your champagne. Could be something "extra" in your bottles if I delivered. Course if you'd pay a decent wage, your champagne would be just perfect.

 

The Government can raise taxes when the government feels a big Deficit financing (Govt Expenditures). The Government can raise also indirect taxes by increasing the prices of several commodities.

 

I disagree - if the floor and ceilings of your bands remain unchanged or are not adjusted to reflect the impact inflation has on profits and wages then inflation can and will change the effective tax rate.

 

Another who understands simple math. Thank you. But then he doesn't have the honesty to admit he got it wrong.

 

You only understand simple math Jethro. That's your problem.

 

You mean like gazintas? like 4 ''gazinta'' 16 4 times?

 

Shhhh. Don't give him the answers. He thinks it only gazinta 16 twice.

 

I take it that you are able to read?
Well let me simplyfy it for you by highlighting a couple of points

If you have a tax band system dependant upon income then as a individual earns more or less they move up or down the tax bands but the tax bands remain constant at any given point in the overall band and will only change if the goverment changes them. any other change in what tax you pay is due to your individual earnings

Now did you read the highlighted part?
Ie INDIVIDUAL EARNINGS?

The bands remain constant the earnings change they go up or down, Inflation moves the EARNINGS not the TAX BAND how simple do you need it to be for you to understand simple economics? Goverment moves the Tax Bands and Inflation can move earnings

 

Let me ask you this how many bands of tax do you have on Income in the USA? I believe it was 6 for the year 2010 they were
10%
15%
25%
28%
33%
35%

Now they will not have changed one single % point regardless of how inflation acted on the American economy without the US Goverment actualy changing them!

Your income on the other hand might have risen or remained stagnant or even droped due to Inflation and the purchasing power most certainly would have changed but not the TAX Bands.

Can you comprehend that?