We're on Country #3 and Nobody Wants to Discuss News Corp???

Wow! I go on vacation for a week and the deafening silence of the Fox News apologists on this forum couldn't be more telling. The parent company of Fox is wallowing in scandals on as many as three continents and we don't hear so much as a word from their true believers. Come on! These people have been caught red-handed and we're just in the initial stages of the various international investigations.

You all know how often I slam Fox for its lack of credibility so this situation would sort lend my convictions a lot of credence. While your defense of this morally bankrupt, unprofessional, ethically challenged "news organization" seems to be, well bassackwards if you catch my drift.

What say you???

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/15/investigation-of-news-cor_n_900098.html?

 

Same right wing silence that sat on their hands during the Bush years. Hypocrisy reigns supreme and business as usual. They only attack when their agenda is opposed.

 

What say I? I say you got the chance to blow something out of proportion so you're running with it again. Just because one or two people hacked phones, doesn't mean the entire organization is to blame. Get a grip.

 

They lost their grip a long time ago.

 

I really haven't been following it at all and don't have much interest at this point. And neither would anyone else outside of the UK if the Fox News guy wasn't owner. Truthfully, I had never heard of News of the World before (although it looks like the National Enquirer) and really don't follow UK media other than the Telegraph online.

 

The fact that the other liberal media outlets are hesitant to condemn FOX News at this point is very telling. Perhaps you should follow their lead, lest you end up with egg on your face.

 

In institutional crime situations, it always comes down to one or two people that actually "do the deed". But it is how far up the chain of command the marching orders come from that is usually the question. With investigations on three seperate continents, I sincerely doubt this was the result of one or two local rogue employees. Sounds like it came from somewhere upstairs.

LONDON — London police arrested Rebekah Brooks, Rupert Murdoch's former British CEO, in the phone hacking and police bribery scandal Sunday, and the former News of the World editor said she was "assisting the police with their inquiries."

Just sayin'.

 

I don't know exactly what you mean by "other liberal media outlets" or what is exactly "telling" about their lack of interest. A reputable news organization doesn't try to become the news, they only try and report it. I have definitely seen CNN, NBC, CBS and the like report the story but they didn't dwell on it and hammer it into innuendo, heresy, and speculation the way Fox would if the shoe were on the other foot. They usually wait until the facts are in before they report them and at this stage, the investigations are just getting started. In other words, they are acting like professional, ethical news organizations. If Fox ends up going down over this scandal, you'll have to get used to that.

 

Are you really saying Fox is committing or has committed heresy? That more sounds like NBC and their omission of "under God". That might be considered heresy, but just what has Fox done?

BTW, "They usually wait until the facts are in before they report them", so why didn't you?

 

Sorry, I guess I should have been paying attention to the spell check function. The correct word is hearsay not heresy. But, then again from an ethical point of view, and being a news outlet, it is sort of modern day heresy. Out of the mouths of babes eh?

I, nor you, hold ourselves to the standards of an ethical media organization. And as for me, what have I reported that isn't true or not a fact? All I have said is that this scandal reaffirms what I believe about News Corp, Rupert Murdock, and Fox. Truth simply has an elastic meaning to them. The ends justify the means. And words mean what you tell people they mean in spite of what they actually mean. In other words, New Crap is exactly that....Crap. Have you noticed Fox seems to have gone mute on the scandal?

 

You might said that your brain often lags behind your liberal educated thinking implying that it was merely a lapse. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight! Keep diggin'.

"Have you noticed Fox seems to have gone mute on the scandal?" I don't know what you are listening to, but that has been the lead story for most of the Fox I listen to.

"what have I reported that isn't true or not a fact?" Excluding all the other threads and just using this thread;
"Truth simply has an elastic meaning to them."
"The ends justify the means."
"They didn't dwell on it and hammer it into innuendo, heresy, and speculation the way Fox would if the shoe were on the other foot."
"They usually wait until the facts are in before they report them."

And "Have you noticed Fox seems to have gone mute on the scandal?" Just how could you possibly know that when you say, "I don't listen to anyone on the Right because they have proven they only elect idiots." One of those 2 lines has to be a lie.

 

Does someone as smart as Murdoch really not know what goes on in every outlet in his control? He doesnt seem the no hands on type to me. ''One or two reporters''? Really?

 

I didn't know FOX was a part of this until I read something on this site about a week ago. I've watched a lot of news on TV and hadn't heard anyone mention FOX with the story. So I turned on FOX yesterday and they were also talking about the story... and how every leftist media was attacking them because of their connection to the story.

My point: FOX knows how to play the victim.

P.S. - The next story they were going to talk about was how the White House constantly attacks FOX.

I turned the TV off lol

 

Have you ever read one of those student's papers on some topic that has all these quotes thrown in that, while they are actually quotes, in no way substantiate what the paper writer is trying to articulate? Here's an idea; when you attempt to use a person's words against them, try and have a point. It just helps so much.

 

I am reminded of two burglars at the Watergate Hotel for some reason. People don't usually break the law for the good of the company without some serious pressure from above. My guess is that the people caught in this scandal will rollover on the higher ups in the end. A culture of corruption has to come from the top.

 

As stated in my post, "what have I reported that isn't true or not a fact?"

 

I watched both the FOX & CNN coverage of this issue and there were essentially identical. The liberal news outlets are not hammering FOX like they normally do and FOX isn't hiding anything. Regarding what you think FOX would do if the shoe were on the other foot, I submit that you don't know the difference between the opinion programs and the actual news coverage. Having said that, the majority of FOX's programming are opinion programs, leaving actual news coverage very sparse on that network.

But hey, why don't you put your money where your mouth is? How about a little wager that FOX does not go down over this since you seem so confident? When you decline the offer, everyone will know exactly what your agenda is: wishful thinking!

 

This is not simply one or two reporters who were involved in a bit of phone hacking the lates resignation is the head of the Metropolitan Police, Commissioner Paul Stephenson He apparently said and I quote "he was quitting due to speculation about his links to Murdoch's empire and the force's botched investigation into hacking at the now-defunct News of the World tabloid"
Add to this Les Hinton, CEO of Wall Street Journal and Dow Jones, resigns He was the head of News Corp's flagship American newspaper and a trusted, long-serving executive (been with Murdoch for some 50 years)
On 15 July, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder announced that the Department of Justice had also opened an investigation into the company as have the Australian Goverment.
Alligations have been made about hacking into the phones of victims and families of the September 11th attack (now you cant blame the News of the world for that one ) In addition to any possible illegal activities in the U.S., News Corporation and/or its executives might also face civil and criminal liability under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act
The FBI are actualy investigating the alleged phone hacking in the US
David Cameron's head of communications at Downing street Andy Coulson resigned (he worked for News corp was editor of the News of the World) News International's legal manager Tom Crone left the company on 13 July
As for the News of the world up until it's closure it was apparently the largest selling english language sunday newspaper in the world (Sales averaged 2,812,005 copies per week in October 2010)

Quick Ps here there has as far as I am aware not been any accusations made against fox this seems to be mainly in the news paper part of the empire but of course that might well change

 

I was watching CNN today. Not looking to rosy for Rupert Murdoch especially in the UK.