Study show nearly 1/3 of companies plan to drop health care when obamacare is initiat

A study done by McKinsey & Company is now showing that nearly 1/3 of all companies are planning to drop employee heath care when obamacare kicks in. I wonder why when obamacare costs $2,000 for each full-time employee, and group plan costs averaged more than $9,500 per employee last year. (Democrats question validity of McKinsey health care plan survey | Business Insurance)

Now the Dips are so upset at the results of the poll that they are demanding that McKinsey & Company release

Incoming: Dems dropping bombs on McKinsey - The Plum Line - The Washington Post PLUS much more. I think they believe that by bullying the messenger (maybe driving it out of business), they can change teh future results. Yeah right!

 

You can't even read what you are posting. What a goof! This outlier survey said that, "McKinsey & Co. survey that showed 30% of employers may drop their health care plans after 2014" which is a vastly higher number from any other survey done on this issue. You can't even paraphrase correctly. Apparently, McKinsey & Company are unwilling to even be transparent about how they reached their conclusions while other studies have been completely open about their survey methods.

Did you just go out on the web and find something that agreed with your opinions again? Sure you did but you know nothing of survey methodology so you blindly accept Right wing nonsense again. What a Right wing tool you make. Why am I unsurprised?

The truth is that it is too lucrative for insurers to drop group health coverage. I wish all employers would drop their group coverage and we could move to a single payer system like Medicare.

 

Are planning versus may. Sorry!

Just why do you think is is any business of the government just;
"2. Results, in tabular form, of responses to questions asked as part of the survey, including results for questions that were not discussed in the publicly available report.

3. All documents related to education of respondents conducted by McKinsey or its agents as part of the survey, including any scripts or written materials used in this process. "

And, BTW, those are direct quotes from the letter send by the dips to McKensey.

 

There is a provision in Obamacare that allows employers to continue offering coverage outside of Obamacare until such time that the insurance provider changes some provisions within the plan such as coverage or premiums. I am aware of more than one insurance carrier "revising" their program now in order to delay changes or premium increases once Obamacare kicks in. What does that mean to the insured? Higher premiums now in anticipation of Obamacare & reduced coverage now for the same reason. Don't be surprised if your current health plan has fallen victim to this already.

 

Mine has, one free doctor visit per year, then a $2,000 deductible.

 

Really! Obamacare which was supposed to reduce the cost and improve health care is actually going to increase premiums and reduce coverage. You mean BO lied to us (again)?

 

I just know they wouldn't have done that regardless. Never fear though...I heard they're giving everybody a coupon instead.

 

Now I thought that you guy's did not actualy know what was in President Obamas bill as it has not yet been published? Now that is what was said when Jack compared the number of pages in Romney's bill to Obamas
Yet here you are quoting actual numbers?

 

That part was exposed a few months ago....keep up.

 

What were they waiting for?

 

So now you are saying it has been published afew months ago? which is it published or unpublished?

 

After what I just went though during this year's benefits choice period at work, anything is an improvement. Maybe Stu had the same experience. What a nightmare. Everybody knows whether they admit or not that the current system is completely broken yet some would prefer the devil they know and it's failing characteristics and highly profitable dividends for some to a new system that works for more people. It's sad to think that people would even defend the current failing system because they are so invested in it. Change is what is needed but some folks perfer the devil they think they know more than the devil they don't know. I like a lot of what is in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and I have heard no valid criticisms that would make me turn against that position. When someone actually comes up with a list of valid reasons for not liking this new health care law, I’ll be the first to turn against it. So far I have heard nothing but partisan nonsense. Is the law perfect? No law ever is but it certainly is a good starting place.

 

How about my health care costs went from a $25 Co-pay per doctor visit to a $2,000 yearly deductible. Would you classify that as affordable? And what choices do you have? We have none. BTW, did I mention, my weekly premium increased from $20 to $22. Basically I am paying $1,000 per year for catastrophic coverage. And even after the $2,000 deductible, they only pay 80% of the first $5,000. Do you want us to believe that these drastic changes to my benefit plan is not related to Obamacare? Prior to this year, my benefit plan had basically been unchanged for 15+ years.

We know how much you abhor anecdotal evidence, but why don't you tell us about your horrible experience?

 

And you are so prejudice in you opinions I would be willing to bet that you never will hear "valid criticisms that would make me turn against that position".

"There are none so blind as those who will not see."

 

How about the being fined for not having coverage? That isnt a valid reason for not liking it? How does that benefit the individual? How do you tell a 20 year old in good health he must pay for a policy he may not need or even want for years to come?

 

Same thing as "Obamacare" which most people recognize as the name of the debacle passed by Obama/Pelosi/Reid. Just think of it as the fruit of Obamunism. In fact, instead of calling it the "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" or "Obamacare" what say we simplify it even more and just call it "666"?

 

Not me. My insurance couldn't be simpler. There is nothing to choose 300 family deductible, low co-pays and 3000 a year max out of pocket. It will probably be the last year of that, though. Congress is fixing to increase my costs. Which will go nicely with the 6 percent pay cut they are going to give me.

 

I've had coverage for as long as I can remember. Why would that even be an issue for me? Your 20-year old was born wasn't he? He has already used it on his first day on earth. Point being, everyone uses health care either in the past or in the future. I'm not handicapped but 1/3 of the Social Security money I pay into the system pays for disabled people and children that have lost a parent. Anybody complain about that?

 

Why are your increased costs the fault of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act? It hasn't even kicked in yet. Why don't you tell us exactly how the increased costs are not the fault of the private insurer but somehow are the fault of the new health care law?

 

The private insurer's are raising the rates in response to the new law. Do you think it is a coincidence that insurance rates have risen since the passage of the law. Obama has no problems increasing costs for ordinary Americans. In fact, he sounds almost proud.