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Discussion in 'Politics' started by David, Jun 4, 2011.

  1. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush......whew!

    But it is obvious you don't blame only Bush, right?
     
  2. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    You see what you want to see. From what I've seen, he's saying Bush had the chance to fix the problem others made, but instead made it worse.
     
  3. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    Considering I posted this on the second page of the thread, I would say so.

    And I stand by that and everything else I posted.

    Desperation is not becoming on you, David. Too obvious of another dodge to cover your inability to blame Bush for his part in the mess.
     
  4. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    Thanks and that is exactly what I was trying to get across. In its simplest terms...Bush took the loaded gun that was given to him, and instead of putting the safety on, he pointed it at his face and pulled the trigger. Craig seemed to understand what I wrote too. But neither of you have the blind agenda to dodge, distract and redefine at all costs that David does so you don't have to feign that you didn't understand what I meant like he does.
     
  5. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Your words betray you, Stu...here you claim it was Bush who put the "tidal wave" (your words), in motion. What, did Clinton put the "pre" tidal wave in motion?
     
  6. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    And you never once acknowledged that anyone else but Bush had any blame - until post #54. You have cited no references as I asked for.
     
  7. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    Keep at it, David. I have even restated what I was saying, and quoted it too, so you could understand it better like other posters did the first time around. But you are still holding those fake blinders firmly in place pretending you didn't understand what I was writing.
     
  8. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    All I can do is reiterate what I already tried to convey the whole thread. If only some understood it, oh well. Bush is not the only one to blame but he and his policies bear the majority of it because he took a bad situation and exploded it.

    So, again, where do you stand on his blame?
     
  9. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    Don't get me wrong, I myself blame Clinton as well. When I heard of his initiatives I knew they were a mistake. Poor people simply can't afford to buy houses, and he created the initial conditions for the eventual bubble-burst. But I'd agree Bush Jr. had the chance to correct that error, but not only failed to do so, he inflated the problem.
     
  10. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    So, again, where references I asked for?
     
  11. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    I just posted one right above to David that said I didn't give all the blame to Bush. And this exchange sums the point I have been making the entire time about best...

    The book was being written during the prior administration but the worst chapters were written when Bush had a chance to fix that but made it worse instead.

    Now, about your take on if Bush has his own share of the blame for the crisis...Go ahead and be honest but write it small...David can pretend not to understand it and I promise not to tell him.
     
  12. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Heck, the uber lib Bush bashers among us haven't even jumped to your defense on this issue. And they never miss an opportunity to blame something anything on Bush. Hmmmm.
     
  13. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    I have posted enough sources showing Bush's irresponsible policies and have seen no real substance in your posts at all refuting them. So, I really don't need any internet ego boost of a bunch of people posting that they agree with me.
     
  14. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Well, that's a good thing because you sure aren't getting it here.....
     
  15. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    And that is ok because I prefer to actually have discussions and debates that are made up of sourced facts and logical thinking that results from reading them regardless of one's own biases rather than just personal opinions and party talking points thrown out in hopes that someone pats you on the back for them. I am also ok that this is another area where we disagree.
     
  16. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Biases & talking points? Really? You see, I worked for a bank during the Clinton era (and the Bush era as well) and it was kind of big deal when he turned 100 years of banking wisdom on it's ear and threatened us with legal action if we resisted. I was there when it began & saw the fallout of his policies take their toll well before Bush took office. So, yeah, I know a little bit of which I speak.
     
  17. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    Opinions, personal anecdotes and party talking points. Better? In other words. Nothing to back it up except for one cogs interpretation of what happened at his bank. Even if I do beleive it. And, actually, I do believe that Clinton is to blame for handing the next guy a loaded gun with the safety disengaged. But not because of your personal anecdote rahter because I have read actual articles on it that are more than one ants perpective of the anthill.
     

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