Guess who paid the bills when IN dimocrats ran off to IL?

So, in case you missed it, Indiana house dims abandoned the state & hid out in IL for 5 weeks rather than being responsible and serving the people as they were elected to do. They rang up a bill of $85k for meals, lodging, entertainment, etc. The money source was just exposed...can anyone guess who picked up the tab while these cowards were saying "screw you" to their consituents? UNIONS!! Yep, 2 unions footed the bill. Not only was this a stupid, childish and wasteful act by the dims it was every bit as wasteful by the unions. Wonder what the thugs hoped to get in return? Hmmmmmm

 

Yeah, hmmmmm. Were you stroking your chin when you said 'hmmmmm'? What a drama star.

 

At least they didn't try to charge the taxpayers.

The money was actually paid by donations to the Indiana Democratic Party. And really, if unions gave most of those donations - and it was more than 2 unions who donated to the party - it came from union members from Indiana (and elsewhere). Which makes total sense. That is kind of the point of unions.

 

Well, the taxpayers paid these peoples salaries while they abandoned their posts & refused to perform the job they promised to perform, right? So, in reality, the taxpayers were charged at least the cost pf their wages.

 

...and why did they leave? I'd think why they left (and stayed away) would also be something to discuss...

 

But that isn't what this thread is about. Dummy.

 

Can't do that IQ because facts would get in the way.

Indiana Republicun#s wanted to try a "Wisconsin tactic" here and it didn't work too well. Hell, it hasn't worked too well in Wisconsin or Michigan or Ohio. Wonder why that is?

Furthermore there were concessions made to get the Democrats back to the state. In other words it worked. The Pubs didn't just get their way. Worth my tax money.

 

Dunno, I just find it inexcusable for our elected officials to abandon their elected positions & be "taken care of" by a group apt to curry favor as a result.

 

I hear ya cuz those honest Repubs would NEVER think of such a thing. Get real David.

Did they maybe "abandon their elected positions" because they saw what Daniels was going to try and "sneak through" so they put up a roadblock? An effective roadblock at that?
Like I said earlier it was worth my taxpayer money. They stragically removed themselves after having seen the sheer lunacy in Wisconsin under another brilliant governor Scott Walker.

Things are going great up there aren't they? Madison is a madhouse rarely reported but it's still going on. Cops and Firefighters as well as farmers are joining the ranks.

As a fellow Hoosier is this what you want to see in our state? I'm serious David.

How about this one and I know it's off topic but we live in the same state. What do you think about cops being able to enter your home anytime they wish in Indiana? Are you good with that?

I'm sure you've read the thread so please comment. Should our state become a union crushing, police have no limits land overnight. Tell you what, the folks I run into don't think so and most of them are Republicans.

 

This is a question that can't be fully answered in a brief manner but here goes....No, police should not be given absolute powers. I believe in most cases they deserve the benefit of the doubt but absolute power? No.

Now I'll ask you this- seriously. Do you think it is right that those reps who left the state had their personal & living expenses paid by a union? Doesn't this seem just a bit wrong when these same reps will at some point be voting on issues involving these same unions?

 

Dont most US politicians hold fund raisers were they garner thousands of dollars from corporations and unions alike? is that also wrong? do politicians not recieve corperate hospitality from time to time? or is that a myth?

 

But this is OK right???

Billionaire tea party tycoons financed Wisconsin’s anti-union governor, records show
By Stephen C. Webster
Saturday, February 19th, 2011 -- 9:49 pm

Who were among the financiers behind Wisconsin's Republican Governor, now embroiled in a controversial attempt to destroy public sector unions?

None other than reviled tea party financiers Charles and David Koch, is who.

Turns out, the billionaire oil tycoons' political action committee gave Gov. Scott Walker (R) roughly $100,000 in campaign contributions during the 2010 election, according to campaign finance records highlighted by Mother Jones.

The contributions came from the same source -- Koch Industries PAC -- and though through two channels which were both legal under current campaign finance law.

About $43,000 worth of PAC monies went directly to Walker's campaign, while the Republican Governors Association (RGA) sent $65,000 from the PAC to Walker.

Wisconsin's governor also received help from the RGA by way of a $3.4 million ad buy on television and direct mail attacks against his political opponent, Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett.

What's more, it's not just the Koch presence behind the governor that's got some worried: it's that the bill causing so much strife is virtually pulled from the tycoon brothers' own playbook.

"Koch-backed groups like Americans for Prosperity, the Cato Institute, the Competitive Enterprise Institute, and the Reason Foundation have long taken a very antagonistic view toward public-sector unions," Mother Jones noted. "Several of these groups have urged the eradication of these unions. The Kochs also invited Mark Mix, president of the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation, an anti-union outfit, to a June 2010 confab in Aspen, Colorado;".

A similar bill was being considered in Ohio, where it drew a similar reaction from workers.

By pulling collective bargaining rights away from the unions, that's exactly what they'd be doing: effectively eradicating them. All leverage the workers have over management would be ended.

As if the connection weren't clear enough, the Koch brothers front group Americans for Prosperity produced a website called standwithwalker.com, encouraging people to support elimination of labor union rights.

Just over 24,000 had signed the Koch brothers' petition at time of this story's publication.

 

Honestly not really. Politics is dirty David. We know that.

If the Pubs left and some billionaire picked up the tab it wouldn't surprise me at all.

 

...and every lib on this forum would be screaming bloody murder.
There's a difference between a bribe & a campaign contribution (slim but there is a difference, right?). This just strikes me as more of a bribe.

 

I'd have to agree that the reps should have payed for their "trip" themselves, fiscal responsibility and all. But comparing the differences between the two sides; one paid by thousands of individuals vs one paid by a hand-full of people (both being considered legal donations), I'd say the reps look less corrupt than the other side does. That said, money is what it always comes down to, and money always corrupts. So, to borrow one of Moen's "controversial" statements and making it my own: "I am the LEAST corrupt (deleted) here!" (laughs) ...ok, I give it back now...

 

Who was bribed David and what were they bribed to do? please provide evidence to back up that statement