Obama Did What Bush Couldn't

I'm surprised no one's mentioned Bill Clinton yet. He was the first president that had a shot at Bin-Laden, and chose not to. As I recall it was due to the method, using afghan's "mercenary's". he wasn't convinced the result would be favorable since a lot of collateral damage (children especially) would most likely occur. But this was back in the 90s.

 

So no one would have heard about it if it went wrong!! what do you think Bin Laden would have not said a word! that the Pakistani goverment woudnt have perhaps commented seeing that the headquaters of there largest millitery training facility was about a mile away and there security service HQ was also very close LOL Dream on LOL It would have been on every newspaper across the globe

 

Let's see:

You didn't post a source. FACT
You just jumped into a conversation and started using the word "our". FACT
Is there something about you two the rest of us should know? QUESTION

So now two facts and a question constitute insults and changing the topic. I see.

 

You didn't post a source. FACT
You have made no post since to elaborate on the topic. FACT
You have, since this post, tried to insult David, "most other people", Congressman Peter King, and myself. FACT
I figured you were intelligent enough to look up your own source for Congressman Peter King just like you did for us in the above quote. Apparently I was mistaken. OOPS

 

Really!! And the CIA is no longer considered a source? I didn't realize that. Wow! The things you learn in these forums.

 

You don't think that BO's CIA might not just spin the story in a way that reflects better on BO? Maybe?

 

Them Congressman Peter King is just as good a source!

 

If you say so. I'm sure that you believe it. King is just one highly partisan nut. The CIA is the organization that conducted the interrogations. Who you gonna believe?

 

Well, I tried to stay out of this thread but just can't do it.

As for the OP. I think that maybe, just maybe Peter set out to yank a few chains. IMHO he's done it a few times before. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong Peter.
Perhaps if the title of the thread was
"Obama did what Bush Couldn't Do". Nope that wouldn't work.
How about.
"Obama finished What Bush did 99.3% of the Actual work on and Bush was One of the Seals!" Yeah, that's the ticket.

Yeah, Bush fired THE shot and is so modest he turned down an invite from Obama to appear at ground zero!

But I digress. I'm not here to bash Bush. He was in office when a horrific thing happened. I really wish Bush would have nailed Bin Laden. Why? because he was a monster and the sooner you eliminate a monster the better.

For you folks that just absolutely hate Obama no matter what. You have that right and I think most of us here have figured that (your sheer hate) out.

Is Bin Laden dead? Yes but the burial at sea left a lot of room for questions. I figured those questions would start coming the minute his burial was announced and they have.

Did Obama do the dirty work? Nope. That's not how it works folks. Leaders of the country don't just jump on a horse and ride into battle like times of old. They make decisions.
Dilligent tracking work and fine training of our elite led to Bin Laden's demise. I reckon Obama was informed the whole time to the point when he made the decistion to go do it.

Our resident body language expert seems to think the President was cowering. I think he was concerned (as he should have been) and watching it unfold.
I think if any of us on PRWE (even those that are beyond brave) wouldn't have appeared like we were watching a rerun of the Flintstones. Barney Rubble and Osama Bin Laden aren't exactly the same after all.

So the people "behind the scenes" deserve our gratitude. ESPECIALLY the Navy SEALS.

All Obama did was make the call and a hell of a gutsy call it was.

Had it failed there is NO WAY IN HELL it would have NOT gotten attention. DeOrc has pointed this out but it's worth revisiting.
Sorry Vess but your hatred of Obama seems to have really clouded over your perception of reality.
Bin Laden would have been all over the internet the next day. Maybe an execution of a captured SEAL.

Pakistan has been awfully quiet but I think they would have had to say something. Ally or not and not much of an ally IMHO.

It's done. He's dead. Obama made the call and our elite pulled it off. End of chapter but certainly not story.

 

What he said!

 

Just what did Panetta have to do with the interrogations? Who appointed Panetta? Has the person who appointed Panetta been truthful?

 

Ditto.

 

That was so good ...I had to go to Facebook and post a link for my friends... GOOD ONE!!! (laughs)

 

Here's an article I find interesting. Do you agree with any of these statements? Do you disagree?

Five Mistakes the Obama Administration Has Made in the Aftermath of Bin Laden Killing - Yahoo! News-


Aftermath can be heck.

The White House's brilliant conceptualization and execution of the plan to bring Osama bin Laden to justice has, in the last 48 hours, been complicated by mistakes. No one can question the heroism of the US military, the doggedness of the intelligence community, or the cajones of the President in making the call. But the administration has since made real errors, some with political costs, some with substantive costs, and some with both. (See pictures of Osama bin Laden's Pakistan hideaway.)

The major errors so far:

1. Not getting its story straight: Was bin Laden armed or not? What woman served as a human shield? Who actually was killed beyond the main target? The administration deserves mountains of credit for its painstaking, conspicuous effort to brief the world on the mission, knowing a lot of information would have to be held back to protect sources, operatives, methods, and sensitive data. Which makes the carelessness of the errors somewhat surprising. The costs: the media coverage sours, the President's opponents (especially on talk radio) go crazy, other details of the mission unfairly get called into question, and the wild theories of global enemies and conspiracy seekers get a foothold.

2. Not giving George W. Bush enough credit for helping bring bin Laden to justice: Even if the White House believes the previous occupant had nothing to do with OBL's ultimate demise, it would have been better for national unity and Obama's own political fortunes if he had gone out of his way to thank 43. His invitation to Bush to join the event Thursday at Ground Zero (an offer declined) was the right idea, but belated. (Watch "President Obama on the Death of bin Laden.")

3. Letting the photo debate get out of control: The decision about whether to release images of a dead bin Laden is not an easy one. But the administration's conflicting statements and public agonizing has created an extended distraction. The White House has stumbled by violating one of Washington's iron rules: when something becomes famous inside the Beltway for not being released, the pressure from the media to release it becomes unrelenting.

4. Letting the debate about the war in Afghanistan get out of control: There are signs that some of the president's advisers are looking to scale back the commitment in Afghanistan sooner rather than later. But by failing to go on the offensive in defining and defending whatever policy the President wants to pursue, the White House has allowed those pressing for an end of the war to use bin Laden's death as rhetorical leverage. (See pictures of Osama bin Laden's life of terror.)

5. Letting the debate about Pakistan get out of control: The congressional and media demand for a radical change in America's relationship with Pakistan is burning like wildfire. The administration knows that a shift in policy is complicated and compromising, and not necessarily in the United States' interest. Stoking the problem: executive branch officials, publicly and privately, are expressing incredulity that the Pakistanis were unaware bin Laden was hiding in plain sight in their country. There should be and will be a debate about all this, but the administration's actions and inactions is making it less likely it will be on their terms.

 

Reminds me of something Chris Rock once said during a special time in our history.

"You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?" ~Chris Rock

 

Who exactly in the CIA said that?

 

Jack Ryan.

 

Yeah, but he is not an agent, he just writes books for the CIA.