DeOrc

Discussion in 'Politics' started by vess1, Apr 30, 2011.

  1. vess1

    vess1 "Birds of a feather...."

    Hey, I had to ask if you're still partying over the royal wedding over there!? The wall to wall coverage over here is unbelievable. Whether you're into it or not, if you're watching tv/news, it's being force fed.

    Aside from being symbolic, what does the queen actually do there? Will William and Kate have any affect on governmental dealings some day or are they primarily there for photo ops and ribbon cutting ceremonies? What's the value of the throne in 2011? I doubt most people in the US have an understanding of it.
     
  2. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    The Royal family is the biggest money spinner this country has, as to what they do well William is a serving officer in the Royal Air Force and flies choppers on serch & rescue missions his brother is a soldier his uncle flew choppers in the Falklands war
    They do a hell of a lot of charitable work andwhile the Queeen has no actual authority over parliment she is listend to after all she knows more world leaders than just about any other person on the planet and many of them on a personal level
    Sure a hell of a lot of it is cerimonial but do not underestimate that, in many ways she represents stability in the country Even after all the crap with Diana the crowds that turned out for her Jubille were simply amazing and when her mother died again you had to see it to believe it, the numbers who lined the route of the funeral procession!
    Sure there are some worthless members and hangers on but you get that in any family LOL but overall they do a hell of a good job promoting this country
    It is to be honest not a easy thing to explain to a outsider LOL oh and yes we do have a very small minority who would like to live in a republic LOL

    Welcome to the official website of the British Monarchy
     
  3. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    When did the monarchy lose it's absolute power?
     
  4. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Around about 1645 with the defeat of Charles I in the first civil war (bit of a missnomer actualy as we had also had the Stephen/Matilda wars earlier)
     
  5. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    I thought it was much later than that. Wasn't the King calling the shots 150 years later than that, during the Revolutionary War period?
     
  6. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    I say "bravo" to England if they want to keep their monarchy. I watched most of the Royal Wedding and enjoyed the pageantry and regalia. Titles of Nobility aren't allowed under the U.S Constitution, but if it works for England I say "more power to them". I can see where it's a sense of pride and honor for the English. Again, Bravo!
     
  7. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Yes he was involved but he did not have absolute power that was as I said lost with Charles I, no monarch since then has had absolute power Basicly Parliment now controlled the purse strings and not the King
     
  8. vess1

    vess1 "Birds of a feather...."

    (Assuming you're being serious), I have to agree. I didn't watch the whole thing but I saw parts. They do indeed know how to have the most elaborate weddings the world has ever seen. So many country's roots began from or were tied to England at one time (some still are). Which is probably why most of the world remains so interested in tuning in.

    It was definitely impressive and they make an attractive couple. I'm glad the Bin Laden BS held off just long enough to let them have their special day. Congrats to them.
     
  9. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    I am absolutely serious! And, yes, I agree with you on the Bin Laden thing...
     
  10. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther


    Yeah, we call them republicans over here. Royalty minus the honor.
     
  11. craig a

    craig a New Member

    I thought we kicked their ass a long time ago so we wouldnt have to put up with that crap. The pagentry and pomp is certainly entertaining if youre a little girl who just read a fairy tale. But inbred dress up just isnt America's cup of tea.
     
  12. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Don't be so sour, Mr. Negative.
     
  13. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Strange is it not how many Americans were over here for the event LOL and how many come back every year to try and see if they are related to Royalty or the Nobility LOL as for kicking our ars who exactly do you think was doing the fighting on both sides? yep most of them were BRITISH (or had you somehow forgoten that) it was your first civil war
    Colonists opposed to the Stamp Act of 1765, which the Americans protested as unconstitutional. The Parliament insisted on its right to tax colonists; the Americans rejected that and claimed their rights as Englishmen to No Taxation without Representation You might notice the word ENGLISHMEN
    Also lets not forget your French/Spanish and Dutch allies without whom you never would have won LOL yes we had our own allies but they were Native Americans and Colonial Loyalists LOL
     
  14. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    He's got you on that one, craig a... All true. And as far as us kicking England's butt, well, it didn't quite work that way. A few tactical errors (and a few brilliant maneuvers) worked in our favor otherwise we would have been slaughtered by the British.
     
  15. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    I've been to England a few times, I enjoy the spectacle & pageantry associated with the monarchy...didn't care too much about watching the wedding but I do like some of the uniforms worn at Buckingham Palace, 1 Downing St & the Tower.
     
  16. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    It was not as some might think a very popular war in this country
    General Jeffrey Amherst, 1st Baron Amherst turned down an appointment as commander in chief due to an unwillingness to take sides in the conflict
    Admiral Augustus Keppel turned down a command, saying "I cannot draw the sword in such a cause."
    The Earl of Effingham very publicly resigned his commission when his 22nd Regiment of foot was posted to America
    Secretary of State at War Lord Barrington and the Adjutant-General Edward Harvey were both strongly opposed to outright war on land
    we had to hire German mercenaries to actualy fight it as once France joined you we were involved in what was basicly a world war
    We were fighting in India the West Indies and Europe, did you know that the French spent (aprox 1.3 billion livres ) so much supporting you that the debt they incured was one of the causes of the French Revolution as the government was unable to raise taxes without public approval? Your own country started life with huge debts (about $140 Million National & state) you had to issue paper money as you did not have the gold
     
  17. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    David I did not watch it either LOL the Mrs did and the entire area was so quiet it was unreal (I live on the outskirts of London near to a major river crossing)
     
  18. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    I say ole' chap...would you have any Grey Poupon?
     
  19. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Did the colonists win? Did they fight because they didn't like the way England treated them? Did they want to distance themselves from British rule and ruling class? And I'm the one accused of being picky.
     
  20. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Yeah. I like the guy who dresses up like Cap'n Crunch and the guard that looks like a bottle of gin.
     

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