Today the Fed Chairman admitted he believes it will take years for America to recover. The Fed is a long term problem that has been spoon fed America. They are not part of the government , they make decisions on their own via the Fed governors.Congress makes laws based on many suggestion of the Fed. Unconstitutional ? Pep
Never going to recover. The system needs to be scrapped. The roaches have infested it and nobody gives a s*it.
A.) Responding to you intelligently is pointless (proven repeatedly by all). B.) Davey likes things exactly the way they are. Need there be a better argument to scrap it?
I don't answer Davey in an intelligent fashion any more. The system I'd use? I don't know honestly, but I know the first thing to go would be corporations, and anybody that defends them.
Therein lies your major problem... Can you explain why you don't like corporations? I mean, are you talking about corporations like Coca-Cola or Del Monte? Or are you talking about municipal governments which are basically corporations? Or the biggest corporation of all, the Federal Government? Are you talking about the mom-and-pop bakery on the corner who incorporates? The guy who does my taxes is incorporated. Are you against that? Do you know what a corporation is? Why are you against them? How would society be better off without them? What would you replace them with?
Read a couple of stories from this link and maybe you can tell me what the benefits corporations generally provide to offset the kind of nonsense and criminal activity they perpetrate. Corporate Corruption News Stories I'm generally talking about mega corporations that continually get bigger and bigger, swallowing everyone and everything in its path until they become "too big to fail". I'm generally talking about entities that destroy communities, lives, environment, anything or anybody that is unfortunate enough to have gone up against them and lost. I'm generally talking about the "business" factions, the higher ups, that control the nonsense perpetrated in my link, and those that profit from that kind of "business". Corporations are the very biggest problem the average Joe suffers from today. They control (by virtue of their immenseness), almost every aspect of "non rich" people's lives. The biggest, baddest corporate offenders (like Walmart for example...my favorite criminal retail rapist) crush other entities by owning and operating a large volume of "the market". They get there by ruthless, unethical bullying tactics, to both its vendors and to its employees, then finally, the customer. Pick any singular, sole provider of service A, B, or C, and point me to the one that has better service as a result of them "being the only one"? There needs to be new regulations to chop up these mafia style conglomerates into smaller, seperate, entities. Whether it is a health service, a retail giant, a provider of home services, WHOEVER, you can be guaranteed that lots of jobs and lives were lost along the way, and I'll guarantee you there's some CEO/Upper tiered "management" that have profited through someone elses demise. While you may call that "business", life, the real world, whatever, I call it corporate crime. I don't know what I'd replace it with exactly, but I do know CEO's, and other corporate dissection and extraction specialists, and those that support them, would be the very first to be run out of the country if I had my way. We can all manage without them, I'm quite confident. Basically I'd regulate the s*it out of giants like that and rewrite the rules. In short....CORPORATIONS SUCK DONKEY B*LLS. I despise them and I spit on them for all that they are and for all the destroyed lives that lay in their wake and are soon to be run over by them. We need a RICO statute or some s*it like that for 'em. They can take their "less is more" payroll tactics and shove 'em deep and dark inside their collective corporate as*ses. I hate them, and anyone that defends them. I hope I've made myself clear.
So, in your analogy corporations are just "big businesses". From what I can tell, you think that once a business becomes too big, it becomes corrupt. If that's the case, it's not inherent in only a capitalist system. Look at the recent events in Egypt and their dictatorial government. Or look at the USSR in 1991 with their communist government. There was lots of greed and corruption in both those systems. Do you think that greed might be inherent in human nature and that blaming corporations could be the wrong philosophy? Seriously, if you blame the corporations then you must blame the desire to make a profit. Do you not want to profit in your endeavors? If you buy a car and negotiate the price down, you've basically become a corporation yourself in the sense that you have the intent to minimize the cost to you at the expense of the other guy. Or if you go shopping for a can of corn, don't you try to find the grocery store who has the lowest price? And if you buy that low-price can of corn, you're hurting the other guys at the grocer across town who have the higher price. Would you rather a government entity set a fixed price on all cars and cans of corn so there's no way the producer can make a profit and you won't feel cheated? Corruption is inherent in any system whether it be capitalistic, socialistic, totalitarian, etc. Human beings are running the show and until you can change their basic instincts, you'll simply have to deal with the problem. I think that you perceive corporations as a manifestation of human greed and, to an extent, you're right. But, until you have something better to offer, I see nothing better than free enterprise.
Corruption has become synonymous with the corporate way of doing things, and the corporate way of doing things has become synonymous with the accepted business practice, and accepted business practices are synonymous with F'ing employees. You can compare buying a can of corn to corporate corruption all day long in an attempt to justify it in your own mind. Corporations ARE the biggest problem today. Gone are the days of an employee/employer "relationship" where one looks out for the others interests. It's all a numbers game. It's all about the profit. It's not about making a profit, its about how to make more. It's not a "mix" of profit and loyalty. It's strictly numbers. Cash for CEO's, the bottom line over people's lives. It's all about squeezing more and more, and almost always, is at the expense of employee...the "labor". How much more can we squeeze? How much more can we get them to do more of for less money? Even when everything is rolling along smoothly for everyone, some remote overseer will punch some numbers into their laptop, and want MORE. That's called GREED my friend. It has nothing to do with being successful. It's about being greedy. Everything stems from their way of "profiting". The whole system is corrupt and needs to be scrapped. The corporation is NOT a person, for example. Perhaps we should start right there. The corporation is NOT the most important thing. The PERSON is. They AIN'T one in the same. So long as "business" views the employees as a squeezable number, the employee will view them the same. I submit it should be a partnership, not a Wall street option. Once again, CORPORATIONS BLOW. I DESPISE them. Their practices will bring us all down collectively in the not too distant future. Now go buy a can of corn and continue patting yourself on the back for defending the American/corporate/elitist way of life. It ain't the America I saw growing up, and it ain't the America I accept.
You haven't really justified doing away with the corporate culture and you haven't offered a reasonable alternative. Just saying it's "corrupt" and "needs to be scrapped" doesn't explain what is wrong with the system. It appears that you're against making a profit. But, everyone strives for profit in their personal lives every day. Don't you want to enrich yourself?
Not via the "corporate" methods. Nope. How bout STARTING by removing the "corporation has the same rights as a person" garbage? Nothing wrong with making a profit. There is MUCH wrong with taking everything for yourself, rather than just taking what you need. I've explained what I think is wrong with the system from my perspective. I'm glad you're comfortable with it. Bully for you. What you deem as "reasonable" and what you justify so easily is what's wrong with the whole F'd up sick system. You keep up the "hooray for corporations" attitude though. Good work. The next generation of CEO's and other slime balls are counting on people just like that accept being screwed over, but then, I guess it's working out well for you so, hey, F everyone else..right? That's a good republican. Good boy!
Meh. I think you're just too hung up on the "corporate" thing to see that you're really just blowing hot wind. I believe you're just anti-capitalist. Not that there's anything wrong with that; thankfully in the U.S., you can be anything you want to be. But, you haven't offered any alternatives that are any better than capitalism. Is socialism better? No. How about communism? Nope. Totalitarianism? Uh-uh. Monarchy? Hardly. Anarchy? No way. What would you proffer instead?
We need to disable corporations, I guess kind of like the rant you always hear republicans hollering about vwith government. I'd like to get corporations "out of our lives". We're a creative country. We remove the ability of corporate America to rape and pilfer everyone just by sheer immenseness alone, hey who knows? Let's create a new system, leaving out the ability of big money to control everything and everyone. In case you didn't hear the two prior times, how bout we dissolve the legal parameters of a corporation being a person? Don't you think that would be a good starting point? Similar avenues can be taken. Can't do that? Hell....maybe we need to do an Egypt. Peaceful revolution. Maybe that's all we can do now. I'd consider anything that shakes complacency by its foundation. Chase the profiteers out of the country. Make them go live in one of their penny labor countries. Something. Anything! This system of ours is seriously broken. The money mobsters ain't gonna solve it for sure. We need to take back the system from the wealthy. Corporations being deconstructed is a good place to start IMO.
No. You say you want a revolution? Well, you'd better free your mind instead. - John Lennon. I like what Lennon had to say. You sound like a revolutionary. No thank you. No, it isn't. ... and redistribute the wealth? Socialist dogma. And once that's done, we'll all live in a utopian paradise? Or at least be on the path to utopia? LOL. I get a kick out of you, Tom. I really, really do.
You know, I have been thinking about this statement. What would I do for the computer I am using right now if the corporation that built it was disolved by tom? The cell phone I use? The car I drive? My 401k is invested in many corporations & it has to perform in order for me to provide for my family when I retire. I am employed by a corporation and we conduct business with hundreds of other corporations. Dunno, but I think we need corps (even if they are perceived as a necessary evil) for a multitude of things we need in everyday life. tom, it's your type of simpleton thinking that causes the problems.
No...it's simpletons like you and the other nitwit that is the problem with society today. Wealthy, spoiled brats that have absolutely no concept of what their ignorant views represent. You're an idiot. You're forum brother is an idiot.
I'm neither wealthy nor spoiled. I am comfortable because I have worked my tail off & made responsible decisions over the 40+ years I have lived on God's earth. Now what? As for my views? I believe hard work, not a handout, leads to success. I believe personal responsibility, not a nanny state, leads to success. I believe an endless masse of entitlements subsidizes failure & causes people to become addicted to gov't. How crazy is that?
Oh, tom makes this "promise" fairly regularly. Like everything else about him, it's just hot air. He usually announces his exit once he runs into an argument he can't wiggle away from...kinda like dr moen & his use of the "ignore" button.
