Soooooo...When Will the Republican Controlled House Start Working on Job, Jobs, Jobs

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Moen1305, Feb 7, 2011.

  1. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    It seems like you couldn't turn the TV on prior to the November elections without hearing the Republicans pounding Pelosi and the Democrats about creating jobs, jobs, jobs. Now that they control the House, they have voted to repeal the health care law which they knew in advance would fail to pass, and now they seem fixated with abortion. For some reason, they think that the meaning of both rape and incest needs to be changed to make it harder for women to prosecute their abusers and they also plan to give hospitals the right to refuse to give women abortions even if the women are in life threatening medical situations and an abortion is the only way to save her life.
    The Republicans also have nothing on the House agenda other than a repeating schedule of two weeks on and one week off with nothing to do other than procedural stuff for the foreseeable future with no job creating ideas to either debate much less vote on. Soooooo....Is it fair to ask at this point if they have any of the job creating ideas that they promised during the election or should we just accept their social issues agenda as a substitute for their job creating agenda they promised to work tirelessly on? If you can call two weeks on and one week off as working tirelessly.
     
  2. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    They'll probably get to that as soon as they can drive down minimum wage a few more dollars (good for "business" you know). The sooner everyone cooperates and starts working for much less, the sooner the corporate tycoons can turn extra profit and start "creating" jobs, which the right wing can claim as success due to their awesome leadership). Until that happens though, the penny labor jobs overseas will just have to suffice. After all, CEO's bonuses are of the highest priority.
     
  3. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Last time I checked, the Democrats controlled the house and the senate for 4 years and the presidency for 2. They still control the senate and the presidency. In that time they have succeeded in digging a deep hole and now you are upset at the Republicans for doing nothing for a month. (I know! I know! save your breath.) Really?
     
  4. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    Surely a month is sufficient time to implement their destruction on America. Oh....that's right. It took George two terms to turn a surplus into the biggest deficit in history and on the brink of total economic collapse. Go Tanman!
     
  5. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Well, tom, in case you missed it or aren't capable of keeping up, the Repubs won control of the House by promising to vote to repeal Obamacare. Now I know keeping campaign promises may be a foreign concept to someone like you but it appears the Repubs are working to keep theirs.
     
  6. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Wait a minute, aren't you looking backwards like you said we shouldn't do with Bush? Besides, the Republicans said that it was job, jobs, jobs that they would focus on if they won and the last time I checked, they won. I still see nothing that resembles a jobs bill or even a debate. That is all they hammered on during the campaign so it is reasonable to expect some action on jobs.
    The truth is that they do not now nor did they ever have any ideas to create jobs but they know their constituency well enough to know that it isn't what you do, it is what you say you're going to do that is important. You Righties like to complain about Obama's speeches but you fall for your guys saying they are going to do something and never hold them to it. If rhetoric is it takes to satisfy you, Obama is a much better speaker.
     
  7. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Maybe you've already forgotten the term that they used so often, "job killing"? The promise of jobs was what got them elected and they seem to have done zero in that area so far. They also promised to work hard and they have nothing on the House schedule for the foreseeable future. It seems like you guys, and the rest of us thanks to you, have been duped again by the false promises of the Right. Please name the job creating legislation that they have brought up so far. They killed every idea the democrats had but can offer nothing of their own. Do they not want people to work in this country so that they can call the unemployed lazy good for nothings? You have to wonder given their inaction.
     
  8. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Just which election are we talking about? All I heard about was repealing Obamacare and cutting the spending. To a great extent that is one issue. I am sure you can find references to jobs, but here is my fraternity brother's and your newest senator's campaign summary from Wiki;
    Oh! and one of the first things they have to do is what the dims would or could not do - establish a semblance of a budget.
     
  9. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    What a convenient memory you have! To put it in Eric Cantor’s own words:

    We will reform the way the House operates. This starts by rethinking how time is spent and what types of legislation we will bring to the House floor. We will identify our top policy goals and commit to take concrete steps every single week to advance those goals. And we will hold each other accountable by asking: Are my efforts addressing job creation and the economy; are they reducing spending; and are they shrinking the size of the federal government while increasing and protecting liberty? If not, why am I doing it? Why are we doing it?"

    Are you really pretending that the Republicans didn't say anything about a "lazer focus" on job creation prior to the election? Seriously? Don't take my word for it. Type into Google: Republican, job creation, focus, and see just what comes up. The links are endless. Sounds like you could use a memory jog.
     
  10. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Working to repeal Obamacare addresses every one of those pieces.
     
  11. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Do you really think I voted for Eric Cantor? Or listened to his campaign? I don't think you voted for Mark, but my guess is that you voted against him.
     
  12. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    That is pretty much irrelevant from a U.S. House of Representatives standpoint since I was talking about the House Republican agenda not specific congressmen. Kirk certainly campaigned on job creation like every other single Republican out there but again, not the point. Just because you suddenly decided that taking away the following benefits is good for Americans doesn't mean that jobs weren't the rallying cry prior to November.

    • Eliminating caps: If you buy a policy, a health care company will not be able to place a lifetime -- or annual -- cap on how much they will cover. This is will be especially important for those diagnosed with serious illnesses, such as cancer, who face steep medical bills.
    • Pre-existing conditions: The Senate bill includes $5 billion in immediate support to provide temporary coverage to uninsured Americans with pre-existing conditions. The money would help you until the new health care exchanges in the Senate bill are put into effect in 2014.
    • Children and pre-existing conditions: Another thing that's going to be very important, CNN Senior Political Analyst Gloria Borger said, is that there will be no exclusion of children with pre-existing conditions.
    • Dependent children: Your children will be covered until the age of 26.
    • "Children who are over 21 and may not have a job that pays their health insurance can still be on your policy," Borger said. "That's very important to a lot of families."
    • Small business tax credits: Those tax credits are aimed at helping small businesses buy health insurance for their employees. Tax credits of up to 50 percent of premiums will be available to firms that offer coverage, according to the Senate's plan.
    • Preventive care: All new insurance plans, Obama said, will be required to offer free preventive care in order to "catch preventable illnesses and diseases on the front end."
    • Appeals process: A new independent appeals process will be set up for those who feel that they were unfairly denied a claim by their insurance company.
    • Help for seniors: If you fall into the Medicare Part D Drug Benefit coverage gap, dubbed the "donut hole," you will receive $250 to help pay for prescriptions.
     
  13. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    You said "the Republicans said that it was job, jobs, jobs that they would focus on if they won...." "That is all they hammered on during the campaign....." I never said they did not campaign on jobs. What I said was they did not ONLY campaign on jobs. Uhm? Who is right?

    Just for your information, it takes both houses to pass a bill and then the President must sign it. The house could pass the best bill ever, but it the Senate and the president don't cooperate, you get no where. Gee, I think I heard that before.

    And, yes, I and the MAJORITY of Americans want Obamacare to go away. That does not mean that each one of your "benefits" are bad, but it does mean that we are justified in fearing that the total bill will bankrupt the US. Were it to contain just what you wrote, it might have a chance. However, just what is in the other 1989 pages? Just what is in the 1000+ directives yet to be written?

    BTW, you don't agree that the majority of Americans want Obamacare repealed? Just ask your idol. He agrees with me.
     
  14. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    We need to remember that the Democrats have driven us off the road, into a ditch, over an embankment and to the precipice of the cliff. It's going to take a while for the Republicans to fix the damage, get us back on the road and steering in the right direction.
     
  15. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    With one MAJOR problem - the Republicans don't even have the steering wheel or at least not yet.
     
  16. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    The Majority? By which polling organization? It's just a matter of which poll you are willing to believe. There are a good percentage of people that like the new law as it is. Then there are those that don't like it because it doesn't go far enough. Then you have a minority of people that hate it. When you add the first two groups together, a majority of people want this reform or something that goes even further. Republicans spread the lie that most Americans are against the law but neglect to tell you that many of the people they include as being against it, want it to be even more liberal.

    Moreover, once you tell the truth about what the law actually does, a huge majority of people are for it. I listened to a man the other day say that for the first time in his Republican life he sat and listened to the other side and swore that he'd never vote Republican again because of the half truths, lies, and exaggerations he used to believe. Point being, that more and more people are coming around on the new law and liking it once they find out that they have been lied to for the past two years by none other than your party. Which one of the new law's provisions listed above are you against exactly and why would you be? Can you even answer a simple question like that?
     
  17. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    That is some creative remembering.
     
  18. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    The certainly don't have a map.
     
  19. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    I will use the poll that Obama was referring to when he agreed that the majority were against it. You are not saying that he is wrong, are you?

    Moreover, you do not know "what the law actually does". Most of it has not even been written yet. That will be implemented by regulation rather than direct law. If you think you know what they are GOING to write, please let us know.
     
  20. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Really, which poll was that? I spelled out exactly what the law already does and you dodged the question.

    Here, I'll spoon feed it to you...

    • Eliminating caps: If you buy a policy, a health care company will not be able to place a lifetime -- or annual -- cap on how much they will cover. This is will be especially important for those diagnosed with serious illnesses, such as cancer, who face steep medical bills.
    • Pre-existing conditions: The Senate bill includes $5 billion in immediate support to provide temporary coverage to uninsured Americans with pre-existing conditions. The money would help you until the new health care exchanges in the Senate bill are put into effect in 2014.
    • Children and pre-existing conditions: Another thing that's going to be very important, CNN Senior Political Analyst Gloria Borger said, is that there will be no exclusion of children with pre-existing conditions.
    • Dependent children: Your children will be covered until the age of 26.
    • "Children who are over 21 and may not have a job that pays their health insurance can still be on your policy," Borger said. "That's very important to a lot of families."
    • Small business tax credits: Those tax credits are aimed at helping small businesses buy health insurance for their employees. Tax credits of up to 50 percent of premiums will be available to firms that offer coverage, according to the Senate's plan.
    • Preventive care: All new insurance plans, Obama said, will be required to offer free preventive care in order to "catch preventable illnesses and diseases on the front end."
    • Appeals process: A new independent appeals process will be set up for those who feel that they were unfairly denied a claim by their insurance company.
    • Help for seniors: If you fall into the Medicare Part D Drug Benefit coverage gap, dubbed the "donut hole," you will receive $250 to help pay for prescriptions.

    And according the the CBO's estimates, save over 1 trillion dollars over 10 years.
     

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