Healthcare... a right or a priveledge

Your thoughts on this please. Is healthcare a right or a priveledge? I say that it is both. Some people abuse the system so therefore it should be a priveledge. But at the same time, it is a right because we should all have it available to use if we need it.

 

I don't know if it should be a right or a privilege but I do know that I dislike the fact that denying me health care is directly tied to some insurance entity's financial bottom line.

 

Angie, I'm not sure I understand the premise of your question. If you're asking specifically about health care, I believe you can go into just about any emergency room in the U.S. and receive health care. It's no one's RIGHT or PRIVILEGE to receive health care, it's the hospital's policy, albeit "regulated" policy.

If you're asking about the national health insurance reform debate, that's another topic entirely. Everyone should, in my opinion, have health insurance in much the same way that any automobile driver should have car insurance. Now, the debate has centered on WHO should pay for that insurance. If I'm driving a car and have a collision, but I'm uninsured, what happens? If I don't pay directly, the other driver will sue me and probably garnish my wages, put a lien against my property, etc. If I become ill, but I don't have health insurance, the health care provider can sue me, etc.

Now, not everyone chooses to drive a car and, therefore, does not have to purchase insurance. So much the better for them. However, everyone will most likely need health care in his or her lifetime. Thus, everyone should have health insurance. But, who is to pay? My belief is that it should be up to the individual to pay for his own insurance. Now, before I'm demonized for this statement let me be clear: I have no problem helping those who can't help themselves such as children, the mentally ill, the homeless, the elderly, the destitute, etc. I certainly have no problem with the government using my tax dollars to help these people (at least until they're able to help themselves). But, I can't quite grasp how I should help pay for someone's health insurance when that same person can turn right around and buy a new flat screen TV or take a vacation to the Bahamas.

 

It never fails to amaze me how the Republicans will self-servingly let the exceptions to the rule define the
rule. They never fail to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. And of course, everything must be compared to car ownership no matter how inapt the comparison is in reality.

 

Exception to the rule? Explain.

I'll ask the same question I've asked for a long time now but no one ever wants to address. Why should an individual be compelled to join BO's program? It's not that we are opposed to healthcare, it's a case of being forced into the gov't system. My current coverage and the cost of it is acceptable to me so leve me the heck alone! Isn't Medicare the gov't healthcare plan for people who can't afford their own coverage?

 

I am talking about the health insurance. I know that everyone can go to the ER if they need to but if they can not pay for it many people will not use those services.

 

Then let BO establish a beauracracy just for those folks. Why the need to take over the whole system?

 

Have you ever been to the the ER and received prenatal care, a physical, childhood shots, blood pressure checks, or any preventative care at all? Oh, never mind, poor people do not deserve these "perks" anyway. At least that is what some believe.

 

Who goes to the ER for these services?

 

Funny how Obamacare supporters disappear when a question is posed to them.....

 

Great Britain has decided that operations such as hernia repair, hip replacement, tonsil removal, and adenoid operations are no longer a right. They are no longer covered in the system. They are now a privilege and I imagine an expensive one at that. Oh! And they are going to have the doctors making more decisions in order to try to save money. Britain Changing Health Care System - Fox News Video - FoxNews.com

I wonder what makes them think emulating our system will save them money. All I heard on our news while they were trying to pass Obama care was how much better the British system was than ours. Funny how searching Yahoo under news for Great Britain hernia gave me ZERO results. Not a one. I had to go to Fox to find this.

 

Heheh.. the liberal, lamestream media rarely reports anything that would hurt their cause....

 

Listen to the story you posted again! David Cameron is talking about streamlining the NAS. Certain surgeries will be elective like the ones you listed because they are chronic conditions rather than life threatening. They are still free and available according to Cameron but you might have to wait longer to get them. Those very same conditions are elective here too, not free by any means, but you must have them approved by your insurance company. What do you think the rates are of people being turned down for hip replacement surgery in this country?

Essentially what he is talking about is taking out the bureaucracy from the system, "cutting out the middle man" in his words. The new health care law in this country doesn't go far enough to cut out the huge insurance bureaucracy. Single payer or the public option would go a long way to saving trillions in unnecessary health costs that go strictly to the insurance bureaucracy.

 

A. What is NAS? Try NHS.
B. Elective surgeries "means that you have to wait for them OR NOT HAVE THEM AT ALL". Alternatively, you pay for them.
C. Taking the decisions out of the government's hands is exactly what the doctors I have talked to want. Believe me when I say I have talked to more than my share lately.
D. "go a long way to saving trillions in unnecessary health costs". I will bet you cannot find $1T, let alone plural.

 

Allways had to wait for such surgery or pay for it so no change there what he is doing is reorganising how things are prioratised and it is way long over due I will also point out that if you work in this country you do not only pay income tax but you pay a National insurrance contribution as does the employer this is what helps to fund the NHS Unfortunatly in the past a number of goverments have used that money for other pet projects rather than what it should have been used for
One of his main objectives is to make it easier for local Dr to purchase services that they require and to cut back on administrive costs

 

I have never been to the ER for those, but 2 years ago had to go. It was very expensive even though I had insurance. I can not imagine what it would have cost me without insurance.

 

Man, he's convinced me. My new position is that health care is a priveledge for the few that can actually afford it. Politicians, CEO's, slave owners, etc. Thanks for helping me to see the light.

 

Well then it certainly would not be my priveledge. I could not afford to go to the doctor unless I had insurance and my insuracne is from my job. If I had to have insurance on my own I sure would suffer.

 

You're welcome. But, for those who still think the health insurance reform is a debacle, what would you do to fix it? Please tell us specifically...