Hillary Clinton is Most Admired Woman of 2010

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Moen1305, Dec 30, 2010.

  1. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    You'll find David is rarely right about anything. Here is a list of Clinton's ZERO credentials or “creditentials” as he puts it. I think he was trying to say qualifications or more likely qualafications in David speak:

    Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton (pronounced /ˈhɪləri daɪˈæn ˈrɒdəm ˈklɪntən/; born October 26, 1947) is the 67th United States Secretary of State, serving in the administration of President Barack Obama. She was a United States Senator for New York from 2001 to 2009. As the wife of the 42nd President of the United States, Bill Clinton, she was the First Lady of the United States from 1993 to 2001. In the 2008 election, Clinton was a leading candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    A native of Illinois, Hillary Rodham first attracted national attention in 1969 for her remarks as the first student commencement speaker at Wellesley College. She embarked on a career in law after graduating from Yale Law School in 1973. Following a stint as a Congressional legal counsel, she moved to Arkansas in 1974 and married Bill Clinton in 1975. Rodham cofounded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families in 1977 and became the first female chair of the Legal Services Corporation in 1978. Named the first female partner at Rose Law Firm in 1979, she was twice listed as one of the 100 most influential lawyers in America. First Lady of Arkansas from 1979 to 1981 and 1983 to 1992 with husband Bill as Governor, she successfully led a task force to reform Arkansas's education system. She sat on the board of directors of Wal-Mart and several other corporations.

    In 1994 as First Lady of the United States, her major initiative, the Clinton health care plan, failed to gain approval from the U.S. Congress. However, in 1997 and 1999, Clinton played a role in advocating the creation of the State Children's Health Insurance Program, the Adoption and Safe Families Act, and the Foster Care Independence Act. Her years as First Lady drew a polarized response from the American public. The only First Lady to have been subpoenaed, she testified before a federal grand jury in 1996 due to the Whitewater controversy, but was never charged with wrongdoing in this or several other investigations during her husband's administration. The state of her marriage was the subject of considerable speculation following the Lewinsky scandal in 1998.

    After moving to the state of New York, Clinton was elected as a U.S. Senator in 2000. That election marked the first time an American First Lady had run for public office; Clinton was also the first female senator to represent the state. In the Senate, she initially supported the Bush administration on some foreign policy issues, including a vote for the Iraq War Resolution. She subsequently opposed the administration on its conduct of the war in Iraq and on most domestic issues. Senator Clinton was reelected by a wide margin in 2006. In the 2008 presidential nomination race, Hillary Clinton won more primaries and delegates than any other female candidate in American history, but narrowly lost to Senator Barack Obama. As Secretary of State, Clinton became the first former First Lady to serve in a president's cabinet.
     
  2. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Hillary's own biographer, the late Barbara Olson, says that Hillary's views are rooted in Marxism. The things Hillary has said makes me believe that she leans Marxist. I won't quote her here; look them up for yourself. Hillary believes that the free market system has failed and that in order to make her style of government work, things will have to be taken away from some people and redistributed to others (basis in Socialism). I question why Hillary wants to bring about the change she speaks of and why she would want to be the harbinger of this change. I think she truly believes her drivel and will not stop at anything to promote it. I have no doubt that she would go to any lengths to achieve power in order to promote her philosophy regardless of the effects it would have on society. Does that remind you of any dark, historical figure from the mid-20th century?

    I never said that Hillary believed in Nazism. The comparison was that both Hillary and Hitler wanted to achieve power in order to promote their twisted ideals.
     
  3. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Really! Hillary's OWN Biographer? I understand your adherence to misinformation but you'll have to forgive me for not following suit. :)

    Barbara Olson (December 27, 1955 – September 11, 2001) was a conservative American television commentator who worked for Fox News Channel, CNN and several other outlets. She was a passenger on American Airlines Flight 77 when it was flown into the

    Olson was born Barbara Kay Bracher in Houston, Texas. (Her older sister, Toni Bracher-Lawrence, has been a member of the Houston City Council since 2004.) She graduated from Waltrip High School Waltrip Trivia Page and earned a Bachelor of Arts from the University of Saint Thomas in Houston and a Juris Doctor degree from Yeshiva University's Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law. In the early 1990s, she worked as an associate at the Washington, D.C.-based law firm of Wilmer Cutler & Pickering before marrying Theodore Olson in 1996. She co-founded the Independent Women's Forum with Rosalie Silberman.

    In the mid-1990s she was a chief investigator for the House Government Reform Committee - and later a staff lawyer for Senate Minority Whip Don Nickles - before branching out as a TV commentator and private lawyer. She was a frequent critic of the Bill Clinton administration and wrote a book about First Lady Hillary Clinton, Hell to Pay: The Unfolding Story of Hillary Rodham Clinton. Olson was working on her second book, The Final Days: The Last, Desperate Abuses of Power by the Clinton White House at the time of her death. She was a resident of Great Falls, Virginia.
     
  4. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    A biographer is a "writer of a biography". I suppose to be someone's OWN biographer, he or she would have to be in the employ of the subject which really wouldn't make for an accurate biography, would it? So, Barbara Olson, for one reason not being in Hillary's employ, in my opinion wrote an accurate biography. I chose the words OWN biographer as opposed to someone who would not be knowledgeable about Hillary. So sue me. Regardless, I stand by my statements that Hillary leans toward Marxism, is power hungry and adheres to twisted ideals. Not a very respectable woman, in my opinion.
     
  5. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    I know what a biographer is and I know the difference between an official biographer and an unofficial biographer. Ms Olson was the latter and whether you agree with her opinions or not is irrelevant. Frequent critics rarely make unbiased biographers wouldn't you think? In other words, If I write something about you and call it a biography, does that make it true? See my point?
     
  6. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    You're still not addressing my assertion that Hillary is "Hitler-esque" in her ways. For instance, a person doesn't necessarily have to adhere to the political views of Napoleon Bonaparte in order to have a Napoleonic complex. I believe that Hillary has a "Hitleronic" complex (did I just make up a new word?) in the way that she wants to push her agenda on America, regardless of the ill effects it will have upon society. I believe that Hitler thought he was doing the right thing just as I believe Hillary thinks she's doing the right thing. But is she? I think not.
     
  7. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Most politicians believe they are doing the right thing so using your argument most politicians have a Hitler Complex!! Hitler used criminal methods to dispose of his opponents including murder (this is prior to his gaining power) how many political opponents has Mrs Clinton disposed of? Hitler had his own Army of Brownshirts and was in charge of his Political machine from top to bottom Is the same to be said for Mrs Clinton? ie does she run the Democratic party? He had the support of many in the Armed forces does Mrs Clinton?
    All you have done is decide that because you dislike her political agenda she must be a crazed power hungry person!! you have not put foreward a single argument to back up your case. then you therow out a Napoleon complex LOL

    Napoleon complex is an informal term describing an alleged type of inferiority complex which is said to affect some people, especially men, who are short in stature. The term is also used more generally to describe people who are driven by a perceived handicap to overcompensate in other aspects of their lives.

    Now in actuality Napoleon was not small for his time it was something coined by British properganderists to mock him, Admiral Nelon was actualy smaller than Napoleon. You might also want to read up on the reforms he carried out many which still hold today so in that respect you are paying her a compliment LOL

    Sure Moen, David might well be wrong but at least his argument is feasable
     
  8. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    I thought you might twist the "Napoleonic Complex" remark in such a way... and you did. But, you did so without regard to the intent that it was posited. I used the term to describe someone who can be compared to Napoleon, but not in a way as to compare them to the way he ran a military machine. I'm not saying that Hillary has an army of brownshirts at her disposal waiting in the wings to carry out her insidious plans. I'm saying that she is comparable to Hitler in the way she attempts to gain power. As First Lady she had no real power, but was fairly influential. Even as an unelected person, she attempted to force her version of health care upon the country. She seized more power by moving to New York where she could be easily elected to the U.S. Senate thereby gaining even more power and influence. In that position, she was able to push her agenda even more (immigration reform for illegals, gay marriage, abortion, etc.) She attempted to obtain the most powerful position in the country, the presidency but was thankfully denied that. She's now obtained a very powerful position as Secretary of State and with her track record it scares me. I don't agree with her political agenda nor her seemingly desperate grab for power.
     
  9. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    And yet so many others DO agree with her. So what do you attribute your lone wolf perspective to? :)
     
  10. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Lone wolf? Hardly! She couldn't even win the primary in her own political party.
     
  11. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    So you're saying you can show me proof that she isn't the most admired woman in the country for, let's say.... the last 9 years? Well if you could do that then I wouldn't think you were such a lone wolf in your opinions of Ms. Clinton.
     
  12. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    I never said that she WASN'T the most admired woman in the country. But, that really isn't saying much since in the same poll she beat Sarah Palin by only 1 percent (who, by the way, beat Oprah Winfrey). So what does that tell you? So, is Hillary "light years" ahead of Sarah Palin? Well, after 20 years in the public spotlight she's only one percentage point ahead of a nearly-unknown who burst upon the political scene briefly for a few months in 2008.

    Just because you admire someone doesn't necessarily mean you're going to vote for them to lead your country or that you even believe in their political platform. I admire Paul McCartney, but do I want him leading my country?
     
  13. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    The election results couldn't be manipulated enough as much this time around? Bush f'd everything up so bad there was too much heat? The republican party couldn't come up with anything better than an incoherent old man and a sarcastic dunce on par with Christine O'Donnell? I don't know for sure but, that's a few off the top of my head.
     
  14. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther


    He does? I'm hurt...
     
  15. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Just for once, try to not pull "facts" out of your .....

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has emerged victorious in 2010 with Gallup's crown for the "most admired woman" of the year, beating out Sarah Palin for the third year in a row. This year's title constitutes Clinton's ninth consecutive win, and 15th in the last 18 years.

    Clinton took 17 percent of the vote this year, topping Palin's 12 percent and Oprah Winfrey's 11 percent. First Lady Michelle Obama came in fourth, with 5 percent of voters saying they admire her the most. Palin had gained some ground on Clinton in 2009, when the 9-point gap between them in 2008 narrowed to a mere point.

    But of course this all means nothing because you don't happen to like her. You're in a minority. Deal with it.
     
  16. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    But of course, this means EVERYTHING to you because you happen to love her. Regardless of the fact that not enough people in her own party wanted her to be president. I would imagine that every single one of those delegates in the primaries "admired" her, but the majority felt as though she wasn't qualified to lead the country.

    You say that I'm in a minority. I'll agree that I'm in a minority OF THOSE POLLED. Which, if you know anything about statistics, means absolutely nothing. If you want to keep pictures of Hillary in your locket and dream of her charming smile, well be my guest.
     
  17. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Well, oddly enough I know a lot about statistics and using a representive sample like this poll uses means absolutely everything. It isn't just representative "OF THOSE POLLED". If you knew anything whatsoever about statistics you wouldn't have written something that naive. As I said, I didn't vote for Clinton and I never have so your sarcasm is just a bit stupid in this case.
     
  18. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Now let me see if I have this right, YOU stated she was like Hitler and when I pointed out she was not I am a Democrat! then YOU said she had a Napoleon Complex and when I tell you what it actualy means I Am twisting your words?

    OK then care to tell me How exactly she compares to Hitler who by the way tried to sieze power in a Coup (has Mrs Clinton done that yet?) Or how she compairs to Napoleon in any Political way?

    Please do tell me how she seized power in New York, I thought she was actualy elected but there again I might be wrong and they bestowed the honour on her because they were blinded by her resemblence to Hitler/Napoleon?

    Ok lets try this one what Politician in there right mind would not take a safe constituancy over one they might have a draged out fight to win as a 1st attempt at getting into the political arena? Now tell me a single politician who when elected (and I remind you here that they are elected on a raft of campaign ideals) will not attempt to get at least one of them passed into law?

    What you seem to be complaining about is a woman who has the balls to play the system and do well at it, A woman who can play the same game as the big boys do
    She is no Hitler she is no Napoleon (hell some here said the same about President Obama before he was elected how did that one play out?)
    I think you are simply afraid of a woman who is strong.

    Ps McCartney coudnt be elected to your Presidency even if you did wish to vote for him, He was born in Liverpool LOL
     
  19. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Sorry, Moen.. I don't much credence in polls. The Gallup Poll which gave Hillary top honors also placed George W. Bush as the second most admired man in the U.S. Can that really be true? Hardly...
     
  20. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Why not former President GW Bush still has many admirers
     

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