I dont quite get the post. Would Roosevelt be one of your favorite if you had met him instead of Truman? Had you been a few years younger would you have liked Carter because he wouldve been your Commander in Chief? Ok if you lose your job. But what if you lose your job home(if you dont own it yet) and savings too? Would you still be just rocking on the porch? Wouldnt you get hungry?
Hey guys, don't forget- tom has stated that he is a Libertarian! Remember that one? A libertarian who thinks gov't is the only solution to what ails us?
And, more importantly, whose porch would you be rocking on if you lost your home, job and savings? I am not having some old, penniless, homeless person rocking on my damn porch. You better go find some place out of the way to lay down and wait to die. And make yourself useful while you are waiting...dig you own hole and leave the dirt in a plie so when your corpse starts to stink, all someone has to do is throw some dirt on it. Get off my lawn...
This is complete non-sense. I'll go so far as to say it is B.S. Am I in the top 2% of income earners? No?? Then why would I support a party that only cared about the top 2% of income earners? Because it goes WAY beyond your narrow minded thinking? Yeah, I guess that could be why. Where did you ever come up with this stuff? Was it a Rolling Stone article from 20 years ago with some radical liberal extremist author that hit a nerve? Whether they really knew what they were talking about or not? A rough childhood? What is it man? I can't see how anybody who has actually followed what's been going on could support these scumbag, liberal, democrat, extremists. They're dying to continue ramming through Obama's radical agendas whether the American people want them or not. As we've seen with the healthcare bill. You don't see that as a possible problem Tom!?!?! Has B.O. brought the rich to their knees yet? F NO!! They got richer!!!! So what difference did it make? All these democrats you support are the same rich elitists you claim to hate. So what's your move Tuesday?
Look dude...in case you haven't noticed, I go the the most extreme view often in order to make my point. It gets people to actually think about the point if they see an extreme point of view. Oversimplify. Be absurd. It works often because people look for the two second sound bite, the quick sentence...the instant answer. So if it got you to at least think about why it is that you're voting for whomever you're voting for (whichever right wing wack job that happens to be), then it worked. Far as the actual OP in this particular thread, I believe the base right wing, is indeed all about only people of wealth. The hard right (which winds up controlling the whole party) is all about wealth, power...all the above. Are the democrat a whole lot better? You could easily argue NOT. But which party does actually, on occasion, fight for the "not so wealthy"? Given the two choices...that's really easy IMO. Obama is our president and we need to get behind him (as I've always heard the right spout when their wack job is in there). Is he perfect? Nope. But...the alternative is the nonsense we saw during Bush's years. Corporations, oil barons, and Wall street shell games without limitation. That IS what the right represents, as I see it, based on what I have experienced in my life here in this country. I haven't EVER heard the right fight for minimum wage for folks that need it. I haven't ever witnessed (in my time) republicans against anything that doesn't represent the upper echelon. For them, it's all about the cash, the profit, the stripping of resources from whomever and where ever it can come from. SOMETIMES....people NEED a hand up. That's just life. The republicans ain't the party to look to for a hand up on that hopefully rare occasions that one might need them. The right b*tches about health care reform, because guess why? Because it cuts into their mega wealth. They'll STILL be wealthy regardless, but for them, it's about MORE, MORE, MORE. Get it? That's my take on the friggin right wing. Voting AGAINST them can't possibly be wrong (unless you're rich). That's what I do, and what I will teach my son to do. The right blows is what I will show him as he gets older. You jackwads that think you're some kind of conservative NOT representative of the hard right are very disillusioned. That is EXACTLY what you support when you vote republican. MORE for the mega wealthy. Less for everybody else. I ain't rich, so I vote against them every chance I get. Finally....on a strictly personal "who's capable and who isn't"...again...the right gives us George Bush, Palin, and Dr. dementia. Obama? The man is intelligent, capable, and a helluva lot better choice than the dunces the right presents election after election. Damn right I support Obama. He's eons better than the alternative right. Not even close.
I don't think I have met anyone, rich, poor or in between who is so obsessed with wealth and money as the above.
To me, McCain amounted to a warm body. So how much credit does B.O. deserve for winning that election? Deep down, Obama and Michelle hate this country. I wouldn't bet $50 with any certainty if he was even born here. We know that he spent most of his childhood over-seas and did not grow up here. Completely disconnected from the life that 99% of Americans went through. So to think the man cares about the founding principles of this country or the country in general is foolish. He spent millions on top of millions to get a high stress, $400k a year job. He only cares about power and transforming this place into a socialist utopia that has been proven by history not to work. Sorry if that bursts your bubble. If it could work, I'd be all for it. I'd cheer you people on. Why wouldn't we? But when you have a system that is proven failure, why repeat except out of ignorance?? Not to mention that the people at the top of these socialist utopias, for some reason never choose to live under that system themselves. They become the greedy ba$tards that you despise while the people become, equal, robots, with nothing. Case in point. OBAMACARE!!!!! Do you think Obama will be under Obamacare!?! LOL!! Do you think anybody in congress will be?? How about Obamas children? Do they go to a good PUBLIC school that they are FIXING? Or do they go to private school? How about SOCIAL SECURITY!!?!?!?!! Do they need that or do they have their own pension plans in congress? How about Obama? Will he be buying cat food for supper with his social security check? Eh, probably not. Just the peasants they over-see will. But you run out and vote for them. Just keep telling yourself, four more years. Maybe there's gold at the end of that rainbow you're chasing.
You may not need a two second sound byte, but you would be in the minority there...and facts?? Since when do facts make any difference when up against the "American Idol" crowd? YOU have the time. Most people can't stay focused on anything troubling or of any consequence for very long. You are certainly entitled to your opinion when it comes to you judging my motivations and what it "looks" like though...obviously. What I know and don't know?? I know enough. The hard right, controls the entire republican party POST ELECTION...guaranteed. If the party was split and Obama won by default as you claim..then perhaps if your wonderful idiotic party could present somebody besides empty headed lemmings or criminals, then perhaps your party could make mince meat of the "unqualified" individual that WAS elected...you know...the candidate your great party couldn't beat. I heard the same retarded logic when Clinton routinely cleaned your clocks. That's why you had to go after him for bl**jobs. If they're so bad, then do better! Isn't that the republican chant?? Let the market decide...blah, blah,blah... Well...the "market" decided in the last presidential election, and it decided AGAINST the party of the wealthy, as it will inevitably will once again in 2012 when you all present us with the brilliance of Sarah Palin or maybe even Mr. "family values" himself...the Newt. Talk about free gifts! Fact is...the MAJORITY of people's interests should be represented..not the other way around..but that's what your party wants everybody to have. McCain was a joke? How bout running somebody that ISN'T a joke?! There's a thought! So you picture welfare recipients watching big screen TV's as the problem? How non perfectly stereotypical of you and your party. That's what it's about huh? Welfare recipients and their big screen TV's? You referenced the "black vote" too. There's a surprise. Biden? I think that was one of the single most smartest things Obama did was to make him his running mate. The right (you know...the party of war, profit, and Haliburton) used to like to point out "democrats...foreign policy...weak...blah, blah, blah". I think he negated that right wing propaganda nicely. Notice we don't hear that one any more. Instead of your party asking "why" your shill didn't get elected and presenting one that COULD, and how bad it makes your grand party look that you couldn't beat such an "unqualified" individual, you make excuses and stick to your same clueless way of nominating someone of worth....someone that does actually appeal to the majority of people (which...hint..hint..AIN'T the rich, war mongering corporate profiteers you people keep producing). Let's see.....minimum wage and "who cares"..there's another right wing shocker. You think the whole system would crash if minimum wage were $2.00 higher? Really? As opposed to the economic disaster your boy's 8 years provided for us all? Compared to that you mean? I'll take that gamble. Health care reform...again...you guys COULD have addressed the subject long before Obama or even Clinton tried to address it...but you didn't...because it wasn't on your radar...because it wasn't in the interests of MORE profit. To hell with the problem and the people. You've all proven that view. Now you whine because Obama jammed through something your party wouldn't even acknowledge WAS a problem until it appeared realistic the reform might actually happen. WAAAAA..don't like the results?? Maybe if you all had addressed it...we'd be somewhere else on that one. You've got br*ss b*lls talking about deficits and black holes after sitting on your hands for 8 years. The rich and poor will always be around, but if your party gets its way, then we'll ALL (those of us that aren't sipping champagne through a corporate straw) be a whole lot poorer. McCain just a warm body?? Whose fault was that? The democrats?? That's all you guys got! Warm bodies and cold hearts. Yup, I will keep on voting AGAINST anything republican and I will so educate my son accordingly.....I'll tell him that four more years equals four LESS years of the right wing corporate slave masters that party produces routinely....thank you very much. Or..the right wing attack plan (literally) of....let's just all support the mega wealthy practices of corporate America and the right wing "market forces" of job outsourcing, Wall street casino action, then hope for the best....What a great friggin plan.
Newt is a local where I live at and even though he is short and sqauatty think he has good ideals but he will never be elected President. I also like Sam Nunn who is also a local but he has retired. I am an independent and vote for the man and not the party and there are big losers in both parties today and no standard bearers, except for John McCain. I think I could be best described as a reactionary who would not take Sarah Palin to a dog fight if she was the main attraction.
tom's post exposes what he really thinks the country owes him: a "hand up" and a minimum wage....both are subsidies for failure, designed by the left wing liberal elites to maintain a dependent class and voting block they can manipulate by promising the next gov't freebie. What tom views as the lack of benevolence from the right is actually an attempt to ween this ever growing dependent class off the gov't teet before it's too late. So, tom, who is really trying to help the people? tom loves to say republicans only represent "the top 2%". Really? Then why does the party have about 50% of the population's support? tom you certainly have your own little sense of reality but I can assure you that it's a reality that is not shared by people in the real world.
Why isn't John Kerry a republican? What about George Soros? He has billions and billions. Why doesn't he donate all of his money to the republican party so he can grow it even more!? Your whole theory goes up in smoke when you look at all of the rich people in the democrat party and donating to it. You think the democrat party is trying to help people? They want people like you reliant on them, so they can buy your vote. When the govt eventually collapses and there isn't any more social security checks going out and no more welfare going out, how long do you think the recipients are going to last? How will they handle the situation? Will they be willing to work with people to get through it? Or will they riot in the streets and resort to stealing? A lot of people DIDN'T want McCain but what can I do about it?. He was a democrat as far as most of us were concerned. They tried to pander to the ignorant by running him. Limbaugh didn't want him. He criticized him the entire year leading up to the election. At least the republicans will evaluate their people and judge them. The democrats support whatever unqualified, sleeze bag, elitist, weasles comes along. Obama? Yeaaaah, great! Wooooo!! Chuck Schumer? Woooo! Barbara Boxer? Wooooo! Pelosi? Yaaaaaay!! It's absolutely MINDLESS, meaningless support. By people counting on what they can give them. Started by LBJ. Just support whatever POS loser is thrown out there. It's pathetic.
Pretty long. If the government collapses, they will smite the rich folks. 98-2 is pretty overwhelming odds.
I would probably be more prone to read a TomC rant if he had went to school and learned what a paragraph was......
Dude...the right wing clearly and proudly represents the wealthy. That's not even arguable. Hell, they all but brag about it daily, and whether or not you will accept it, the majority of people in this country are not the wealthy, and especially now in the current economic climate, and its most recent near depression collapse with 8 years of the right wing at the helm...do you really think your party has earned the right to sit in the white house, or be the majority in either the house or the senate?? Really? What the hell has your party done over that period from January 2001 through January 2009? What!!?? I mean BESIDES catering to the ridiculously wealthy? Seriously?? BESIDES lying us into preemptive war over absolutely NOTHING ... BESIDES creating the largest deficits in history...created from an actual surplus? YOUR party was at the helm while most of our jobs were shipped overseas...YOUR part was at the helm while the rich got richer in the meantime. YOUR party deregulated the s*it out of everything allowing corporations to become bigger and bigger, merging and acquiring everything in sight...setting up PERFECT conditions to breed and foster the corruption and non accountable conditions of the Wall street smoke and mirrors, the housing collapse, having to "bail out" Wall street. YOUR party.....not mine. Yet we're supposed to vote the b*sterds back in to do it again and again? Are you crazy? Yeah I guess you all are....friggin right wing, fascist, self absorbed, criminal rapist p*ick scumbag, lying, war mongering profit masters and poverty creationists.
Are you kiddin' me Jack?? This coming from somebody with your spelling and vocabulary??? All that wealth and education and you still butcher the English language like you do in your posts???? Really?? Any time you're up to an IQ test pal....bring it on..
Tom, just a note.....BO has tripled W's deficit......keep it real bro EDIT: and congrats on the paragraphs.........i type on phone smaller than a pack of cigs....give me a break on the speling, I have noted that before
You're probably more phony than anybody here Jack... The cost of putting out the fires that administration started cost that much more to fix..smaller fires are always easier to put out. They made sure their blazing, out of control bonfires, got burning good and strong before they left. Somebody's gotta put 'em out. Lord knows it won't be the right wing pyromaniacs.
**** the IQ test, why don't you just tell everyone your educational background. We already know about clown school, is there anything else to put on your resume?
For what? To satisfy your drunken delusions? The only one that cares about that is you..but ok.....I gradiated clean throoo da fiff graaad. That makes a big difference..doesn't it?