AZ immigration law

The whole point is simply to get Dem Votes and or Obama more votes for/if he goes for re-election.

Why do you think they wont let states "shadow" a watered down version of the federal law? Cause it would circumvent what plans Obama has.

It isnt about segregation or racism as Latinos claim down there. The only reason they are so upset cause many of the are of a illegal status, then they expect they can hijack liberty and at the same time not be under the laws of the United States which say No to illegal aliens.....

Theres folks out there F'ing it up for everyone. There are many mexicans here legally, then they are many here illegally. There are a portion of illegals who are doing their own thing and not "farking" up anything for anyone, then there is those out there filing for federal aid, getting federal grants, and blowing the whole operation wide open cause havoc and labeling all mexican immigrants as a target. Why do you think so many of them are protesting even though they are legal? Cause they feel targeted....

The thing is if you are here illegally how can you claim you are protected under any laws when first of all you are illegal, and by that title, that means you do not pass go and you do not collect $200 in the US, there is no premium treatment for you cause you broke the law. You do not abide under the law therefore you are not protected by it. What makes you think you can **** on some laws and be "respected" under others. You either follow the rules across the board or you don't? Why do you think so many hard working americans, who've abided by the laws and regulations for their whole life times are upset? Cause they are being quote " cut in line" by outsiders who've done nothing for the country besides piss on it and the whole idea IS BEING ALLOWED AND ACCEPTED.

So much media spin now a days, no wonder folks are un-informed

Then instead of Mexico helping their people, they are corrupt as hell and they blame the USA for their problems and BLAME US for not taking care of their people. We should be invading Mexico to liberate their country instead of being over in the middle east right now. Then its a sin and a crime to block the border from "gracious cartel members" coming across and holding hostage mexican citizens to be their tools. Why dont mexican citizens wake up and realize how much of a "tool" they are being used in every which way as profit to everyone else but themselves? HELLO MCFLY?!?!

 

You act like you're the only one who worked hard.
I've had my share of 12-14 hours days, 7 days a week. Had the hardest physically demanding jobs there are in my younger years. Now I'm a slacker? Because you say I am? You really need to come down off of your high horse there.
So how many people's live did you ruin that have enabled you to "reap the benefits?"
I keep telling you that circumstances are different for different people. How do you think you'd do living on the streets...under bridges, apartment complex basements, car back seats. I did many years ago. While your wealthy surroundings provided you with all you needed, my surroundings were busy kicking me in the head. You weren't laboring away....you were priveleged away, and you took advantage of those PRIVELIGES. So now, all you really amount to is an a** with an ego the size of the world trade centers (before they were taken down by Georgey and his band of organized criminals).
I hope you don't have kids. They'd be some troubled individuals with your toxic insight.

 

No, I dont. I just do not believe you have ever worked hard or sacrificed, otherwise you wouldn't be so quick to want to take from others.

Not because I say you but rather your rhetoric would indicate such.

That would be ZERO...you don't have to hurt people in order to be successful. You should try it sometime. In fact, my hard work has allowed me to participate in many, many charitable, volunteer & philantropic endeavors. Now what?
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No ego involved, at all. I don't care where you came from it can't compare to how I grew up. I grew up on a farm in rural KY, in a poor family. I could have easily given up but I knew the only way off that farm was hard work. My family couldn't afford to pay for my education so I had to do it myself...paid for every penny of tuition, books, boarding, etc by working 2 jobs (sometimes 3) around my class schedule- graduated with honors, had a super job lined up by the time I graduated & never incurred a dime in student loan debt. [/QUOTE]

I have 2 wonderful daughters, thank you. Both excel in the classroom, socially and on the sports field. Together we have travelled the world, met interesting people and experienced more than I ever could at their age. If teaching my kids the value of hard work, being responsible and giving of both their time & treasure is "toxic insight", well then guilty as charged.

 

I am with David, I don't believe you ever worked hard in your entire pathetic life!

So you expect us to believe that you were homeless at somepoint during your life? You would also have us believe that you have never touched drugs and don't drink alcohol. I guess that makes you unique, a teetotaling vagrant. I'm not buying it! Not only did you never work hard, you were never homeless either. You probably lived at home until your mid thirties.

Are you serious? You have the most toxic outlook on life I have ever seen. And as previously discussed, I have friends who are criminals and drug dealers.

Just when I thought I couldn't possibly think any less of you, you make a post like that and vault yourself into the clown hall of fame. Take a bow, BOZO!

 

Oh, let's cut him a break...I think Toe finds folly in lying, I'm sure it gives him a bit of an escape from his otherwise pathetic life. First he claimed he was a Libertarian, then he was being pursed by black ops (white coats?) because of his paranoia now he has been homeless? The best one is his claim to have worked 10-12 hrs a day- that is completely contrary to some of his earlier posts when he claimed he wouldn't work extra or work weekends just to spite his employer.
C'mon Toe, snap out of it!

 

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You see what I'm dealing with here all? I share some of my most embarrassing lowpoints in my life, reference true work experiences, and all I get is no,no,no......the party of no.There's is the only true circumstance.
Davey...trust me babe. Ain't no way in hell you'd have handled my many setbacks,tragedies in my life. You could have never walked in my shoes and come out whole. I WAS homeless BONEHEAD, while you were leading you pampered pre-fab life. You're simply a jerk and I'm done talking to you idiots. Propagate on oh great Fox watchers. Airheads.

 

David why do you assume that Tom has not been homeless or worked 12 hour days? just because now he say that he "wouldn't work extra or work weekends just to spite his employer" That dont say he did not do it in the past does it? As I have asked him to respond in a adult fashion I have to ask you to behave in a equaly adult manner.
Been homeless is not something to mock I know I have been there after I got out of the forces, I have also been to the edge with drink & drugs but I pulled myself out of it and worked my way to a Degree a job and a home.
Now why I dont agree with everything Tom say's I can understand some of what he is saying and if you havnt been that far down you woudnt understand (nor would I ever wish that you got that perspective on life)
Everyones life experiences are different so people view life from different angles now if you cant understand that THEN you are in trouble

 

Well, given the guy's record record for "story telling" and hyperbole, do you really think he deserves a benefit of the doubt? I do not.
But, hey, if it's true and life's been tough (I can relate) I can feel for the guy...but doesn't it make it even harder to believe some of the other stuff he posts?

 

David is not the only person who doesn't believe this tale of woe. Tom's arrogance, lack of compassion, and history of distorting facts all but preclude this claim from being true. You saying being homeless is nothing to mock, I say lying about being homeless is worse. He can make that claim all he wants, but I have the right not to believe him. Tom has proven to be a propagandist and that is all this is.

 

I think what Steve was saying was, Don't judge a person until you've walked a mile in his shoes. You can't really know anything about another CT member but that never seems to prevent them from being judged. It's like driving down the road and seeing someone driving badly. You can get angry and flip them off or you might want to consider that maybe they've just left the hospital where a loved one has just died. I'm sure compassion of any kind will be scorned in this forum. That really says more about the person incapable of showing compassion than it says about the person that is possibly lying about some situation in their life.

 

Heck, that's never stopped you or Toe from making judgements, accusations, whatever. In fact, Toe has accused me of breaking the rules in business. I asked him numerous times to substantiate his allegations but he couldn't...all he could do was dodge the subject. I guess actions like that are par for the course with the Moe & Toe Show, aren't they?

 

What I was saying is simply you and I have no idea if a person is actualy speaking the truth so why call them a liar when it cant realy be proven one way or another all it does is strat the childish name calling session.

 

Start it or merely continue what seems to be the norm?

 

It matters not which David it encourages it simple as that.

 

What if that is all he has?

 

It really doesn't matter to me what you or Davey believe or don't believe Sparky. You boys carefully select what you choose to believe. Fact is I was. I am not now and have not been for some time....no thanks to anyone from the corporate crapitalist world you would have me believe is so wonderful. I'm doing ok despite the stacked deck. Don't forget to spit on a he homeless person next time you see one and tell yourself that they're just whining losers after you put your boot in their eye.
I like who I am just fine Sparky.

 

Don't worry, there are enough of them in Atlantic City that if I spit, chances are, one will walk into it before it hits the ground. Coincidentally, one of the biggest reasons why tourists choose not to visit Atlantic City is the vagrancy problem. Just like illegal immigration, it is a crime, but not treated like on. The police won't even come to the casino if you tell them it is to handle a vagrant.

BTW, with your attitude in life, there is a very good chance that you will be homeless again someday. If it happens, you could always come to Atlantic City. Spitting on a homeless clown sounds like a great way to start my day.

 

That's certainly a possibility when those with your version of moral compass and perverted sense of right and wrong still walk the earth. If that happens to be God's plan, then I guess that's the way it will be. I know I can't buy my way through life like your elite following think is reality.
I am glad you admit to being the type of person that would spit on a homeless person.
Glad you're comfortable with those kinds of views. CUT IT OUT TOM

 

I can't speak for Lehigh but as for me, it's not so much a matter of "what" I choose to believe but rather "who" I choose to believe.... and your track record here has been far,far from credible. Think about it- calling yourself a Libertarian, claiming you've been singled out as a target for your 9/11 paranoia ruse, making allegations you can't support. I mean really, would you believe you??

 

My views towards the homeless are based solely on my personal experience with homeless people which is considerable. They are a danger to themselves and others and it is a travesty that our society allows homelessness to continue. If a person has reached the point where they can't put a roof over their head, then it is time that the government step in. I don't care if they put them in prison, a mental institution, or community houses, anything is more humane than letting them live (and eventually die) on the streets. The majority of the homeless have severe problems that they will not overcome on their own. It makes no difference if the problem is self induced (drugs & alcohol) or a mental illness over which they have no control. They don't belong on the streets, period.

I have never, and will never spit on a homeless person. (Same goes for you Lehigh cut it out), not a homeless person.