BO's ego more important than winning a war?

You better not hurt BO's feelings or you'll face the consequences!! Even though the WH readily admits McChrystal is the man for the job, they fired him anyway.....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37866754/ns/us_news-military/?GT1=43001

 

Sorry but you cannot ridicule leadership in public or in front of your troops. A fresh NCO from leadership school knows that. It undermines discipline, loyalty, morale and the mission. Period. Doesn't matter if you are the first line supervisor or the General. Once you compromise your ability to lead, you are done.

He can have all the beliefs he wants and he can share them with his wife during cuddle time. But, he can't share them with the media and expect to continue to have the authoity to lead.

 

Stu is right. This is NOT a President Obama ego issue.

What it is boils down to is McChrystal screwed up. What was President Obama supposed to do? Say "it's okay, we're in a war keep blasting me?" If I'm not mistaken a large part of military training actually does involve discipline. If a General can't discipline his own actions what about the troops under him?
Again, he screwed up and now it's time to pay. He talked about CYOA and seems he sure tried it.

Seriously, what would ANY other President do in this scenario? The same as President Obama.

I followed some links from the link in the OP and found this.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/vp/37843823#37843823

Interesting and not exactly a bunch of "leftys" talking about it either.

 

Another nothing thread. Call your superiors at work incompetent and see how long you last. With not having been in the military, I can understand why you dont get it. You are not allowed to be critical of the chain of command to outside sources. Youre not even suppose to go to a political rally opposing a current administration. All you need do is salute sharply and carry out your orders. McChrystal knew what he was doing. He didnt want the job anymore

 

I agree. Military men are the ultimate stratigist. You might question his method but he was tried of being hand tied by a Commander in Chief that's not even qualified to wash his jock strap.

 

Poor, poor Obama. Everyone's just out to get him, aren't they?
McChrystal had a duty to speak up...it is dangerous to have BO & his crew calling the shots if he is as unprepared and easily intimidated as McChrystal believes him to be.

Hey, clembo, sorry to change the subject here but you failed to answer my direct questions in another thread- So what do you think about BO's lie regarding the creation of jobs in non-existent districts?

 

If it is indeed a lie than I am disappointed David. Just as I would be with any other politician.

No David. Actually it is NOT the duty of a General to speak against the President. Doesn't matter what his opinion of President Obama is it is NOT his place.
If he had a problem with the President he should have done it behind closed doors. A no brainer.

Instead he let a reporter from Rolling Stone hang with him and his staff to report the goings on. We're talking Rolling Stone here dude? What thought, if any, went into that.

You type "poor, poor Obama" but it reads "poor, poor McChrystal". He screwed up David, whether intentionally or not he screwed up. Doesn't matter if he's the best General in history under ANY administration (even Bush) I would back the President. What he did was wrong. It is known that it is wrong and this is NOT how Generals conduct themselves.

He and his whole staff need to be replaced. I figure Petraous will do that.

Seems some bigger Republican names are backing the President on the way he handled this as well. Perhaps you should take the time to watch the link I posted in my first thread.

 

"Obama Turns to Bush General."

The lame street media : "Oh finally, we got a commander-in-chief showing he is not going to mess around,”

So he fires McChrystal. He inherits Petraeus. He didn't hire Petraeus. Petraeus was there. Petraeus was hired by George W. Bush. Obama's constantly complaining about all the problems he inherited from Bush. He didn't replace him with anybody. We're down one four-star. McChrystal was a four-star general. He is gone. We have not elevated anybody. We simply took Petraeus from his CENTCOM commander's job and sent him to Afghanistan. He got Bush's general, who his party and his voters hate. And by the way, MoveOn.org has removed their Petraeus ad from their website. Remember that full page New York Times ad, General Betray Us? It's gone. And their good friends at like-minded Google have removed the ad from their caches, so you can't see the ad. It's gone everywhere. They hated Petraeus, and now they're praising Obama for one of the smartest moves he's ever made?

The Hypocrisy is deafening.

 

After 20 years in the military, I couldn't agree more. If one of his subordinates had done something like that to the General, the subordinate probably wouldn't even have been given the opportunity to 'resign'. It would have been much worse. And the General is the subordinate of the President.

The President was right to do what he did and really didn't have much choice to do anything different. I think the Presidents prior good relationship (from what I have read) with McCrystal is probably the only thing that saved the General even more embarrassment for what he did.

 

Heh. Can't say that surprises me one teeny bit. Now that their QB has called the play, they have to compromise their beliefs and principles (if they really had any to begin with) to support the team. It is what every good political party member would do.

 

He cant hear you. He never will. He knows the General was out of line. But his hatred for Obama overrides whats right and wrong.

 

Ahhhhh, clembo...you try so hard to paint yourself as some sort of open-minded pragmatist but when it comes down to it you are as much a blind BO follower as tomc, moen & craiga. "If" it's true? Really clembo? "Just another politician"? Clembo, did you think about these words before you posted them?

 

Yeah, well let me start by saying I could care less what "some bigger Republicans" have to say about the issue. How's that?
Now please tell me what it was exactly that McChrystal said that warranted his immediate removal, keeping in mind that he was doing an incredible job, at a pivotal time (by the admin's own addmission)? And what problem would you have with Rolling Stone? Sure, it's more of an entertainment mag but they have a journalism dept similar to most mags...an award-winning dept if I'm not mistaken....and heck, Rolling Stone is most likely a left-leaning publication.
But I did like your suggestion that McChrystal's concerns should be addresses behind closed doors...where have you been? Remember Cheney's portrayal of BO as "dithering"? BO has been indecisive and somewhat unconcerned about the war since he became president. As of this is what had been going on "behind closed doors". My guess is McChrystal's frustration with BO's inaction was what prompted him to break the code, fall on the sword & speak out.

 

Hey, I'm not an Obama follower. Dont cast me in with those that are. Your statement that I am is untrue. Man you hate to be wrong.

 

Yeah, right.

 

Thanks for agreeing.

 

You've been schooled on nitpicking here now perhaps it's time for a lesson in sarcasm.

 

It seems you dont know it when you see it. Nor do you know the meaning of nit-picking. If a cheater calls a hurricane a tornado and is corrected, thats not criticism(nit-picking). However, when a cheater posts something like, thats the dumbest thing I ever heard of; thats nit-picking. See now? Correcting and criticizing; two very different things. Get it? I thought you were smarter than that.

 

Now this should be fun.

The story so far. Craig has been "schooled" in nitpicking. Apparently he is reeling from this devastataing blow administered by our own David. Or was it David? Hmmmm....or was it Lehigh96?!? Was it JTH?!? Oh my God the plot thickens!

Now Craig is about to be schooled in (dramatic music) SARCASM! Who will school him? How will they do it? What will be next of poor, defenseless Craig the Liberal that doesn't support President Obama but does because David says so?

Tune in next time folks for another exciting adventure of "How PRWE Can Make Your Stomach Turn".

Oh, and not to change the subject or anything but have you bothered to look at the link I posted yet David? Sorry, my bad, the link I posted IS the subject of the thread you started. I found it by reading your link and following links. You should try this.

I found some other cool stuff as well. I'll share with the class in the next few days. Till then I have a life.

 

You have no foundation to question the intelligence of other members of this forum because you are the dumbest person here. Hell, you don't even recognize that you are a nitpicker. It is very obvious to the rest of us.

Is that your new nickname for me CraigClown. You are going to call me a cheater from now on. LAME!