http://stopbeck.com/

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  1. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    This is exactly the right approach to ending the abuse of the airwaves by hateful people like Glenn Beck. Don't attack him for the crap he spews, attack his sponsors. It seems to be working because many high-profile sponsors won't touch him with a ten foot pole. He certainly has the right to say whatever he wants but there is no reason I have to pay for his right do so. In the UK, Beck has been running his show with zero sponsors for the last couple of months. Why are they so much wiser than we are? We'll see how long his show lasts in that market. Feel free to give your support to the sponsors who have stuck with him if you believe his crap and also feel free to take your business away from those that have dropped their sponsorship of his programs. That is your choice. The almighty dollar is the only reason he does what he does and taking as many of those dollars away as possible will go a long way to taking this clown off of the air. Make a contribution to http://stopbeck.com/ if you believe in this cause.

    ~Lies must be challenged so that stupid people are protected from themselves.
     
  2. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    I can't say I have watched more than 30 minutes of Glen Beck in my entire life...and I doubt the total is near that high really. I don't buy based upon what company is sponsoring who so I can't see me not buying based upon who is sponsoring who. It is certainly people's right to try and stop someone in this way, though. But, ignoring him and not watching him is enough of a boycott of him for me.
     
  3. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Clown Hater

    I don't watch FOX or Beck or any other show like that but what is he saying that is so bad that you feel the need to shut him up? Wouldn't assassinating him be easier and more efficient? After all, trying to stop freedom of speech is just as bad as murder in the long run.
     
  4. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    You say he has a show over here? any idea as to the station it is on?
     
  5. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Check the website out and they may reference it. I'm not sure they want people to know it exists but it might be listed somewhere on the page. http://www.stopbeck.com/
     
  6. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    This is from the Guardian.co.uk and it nails Beck perfectly.

    Fox News' rabid propagandist Glenn Beck has lured me to America

    He wants to recreate the spirit shown the day after 9/11. But it's a worrying kind of patriotism he's whipping up Glenn Beck . . . When people shouted to camera that 'liberals caused 9/11' he wept tears of pride.
    This weekend, I temporarily moved back to America because Fox News told me to – or, to be specific, Fox News's Glenn Beck told me to. For those of you who have never encountered Beck, allow me to bring a little rain into your lives. He is one of the stars of Fox News, thanks partly to his fondness for using phrases such as "you are not alone" and "we surround them" on his weekday news talkshow, mixing the cheesy simplicity of a Michael Jackson ballad with a creepy cult leader sensibility to find favour among a certain American audience. Beck recently gave a hint as to who this audience might be when he felt the need to remind them that it wasn't the done thing "to turn violent", even though they might think it "a good idea".
    Despite having accused President Obama of possessing "a deep-seated hatred of white people" and being "a racist" – which one might think would contravene Beck's much-vaunted "patriotism" – he remains employed by Fox News. Of course, seeing as the channel seems to have confused the words "news" and "propaganda", it's perhaps not that surprising that it might also mix up "talkshow" and "excuse for wackiness". That 50 advertisers have pulled out of his show has not dimmed Fox's love for its self-described "rodeo clown" because, as the channel pointed out, the advertisers have simply moved to different time slots, not other stations – so, as long as the hate speech doesn't cost them, meh.
    About six months ago, Beck announced that he was launching a 9/12 day, "to recapture the feeling we all had the day after 9/11". Speaking as someone who was in New York City the day after 9/11, this intrigued me. Admittedly, Beck's image of a happy, united country somewhat differs from my own memory of that day, with dust blowing down the avenues, buildings papered with homemade missing- persons signs and a general sense of terror – but hey, as Fox News knows better than anyone, history is subjective. Maybe, I thought, he'd have turned the whole country into one giant movie theme park, except instead of allowing us to experience Indiana Jones running through the temple of doom, we would be able to wander through a miniaturised East Village, surrounded by sirens and smoke.*
    That would almost have been more tasteful than Beck's actual 9/12 project, which has seen rallies organised around the country by Beck and various right-wing groups, with people shouting to camera that, for example, "liberals caused 9/11" while Beck, in the studio, literally wept tears of pride. These were interspersed with warnings from Beck about how Congress should not underestimate the American people, like the British did and like Hitler did.
    Beck's modus operandi has been to style himself as a renegade Mad Max figure, a loner who speaks the truth as he strides through the apocalyptic world of political corruption. He is not, he insists, Democrat or Republican (even though he only seems to have the most extreme Republicans on his show). He is also not, he laughingly insisted on Saturday, racist (even though the 9/12 crowds were overwhelmingly white). Ha, ha! Racist! Hilarious! But what was Beck actually on about? The whole event was notably vague.
    Were they protesting against "Obama's death panels"? Obama's "threat to the Judeo-Christian tradition"? This and much more, judging by the crowds, but Beck himself made like Derren Brown and avoided any actual answers.
    I turned to the 912project.com for answers, but when I clicked on the link to take me to "Principles", a "Not Found, Error" page flashed up. Possibly not all that surprising, seeing as American satirist Stephen Colbert pointed out that in 2005 Beck announced that "It took me about a year to start hating the 9/11 victims' families . . . When I see a 9/11 victim family on television or whatever, I'm just like, 'Oh, shut up!' I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining."
    So, Colbert concluded, "The 9/12 project is not for families directly affected by 9/11, just people building their careers on it."
    Which brings us to James Murdoch. As I'm guessing all Guardian readers are aware, Murdoch fils recently gave a speech condemning the BBC, mainly because it was giving people free news via the web when he and his daddy want to make people pay for their news. Now, donning my devil's advocate hat here, I will say that news companies are going to have to figure out a way to make the web pay because at the moment it doesn't, and people who write the news need to get salaries in order to write more news. However, it's hard to take Murdoch seriously as a trustworthy spokesman on journalism when it's thanks to his family that Beck's tears and rants are watched by 2-3 million people, daily.
    Murdoch made his speech at the International TV festival in Edinburgh, and he could only get away with styling himself as the saviour of journalism in the UK, where his TV news output is represented by Sky News, as opposed to Fox News. For a British analogy, this would be like the Daily Mail's Paul Dacre announcing that everyone should follow his ideas about balanced journalism. Helpfully, though, Murdoch described the BBC as "chilling", which was just the word I was looking for when watching Beck's 9/12 project. Thanks for your contribution to journalism, James!
    *Caveat: while it is true I am in New York, and it is true that Beck advised his viewers this would be the start of happy days again in America, the timing of these two events may have been more coincidental than causal.
     
  7. jth

    jth New Member

    Typical liberal you are moen if you don’t agree with something shut them up…. and we thought communism was dead. But we know Marxism is alive and well as long as you and your commune are sucking air. I’m sure your only info about what Beck says is what you read in your left wing blogs. Why don’t you mention what accually Beck reports on his show? Which is………the true inner dealings of Chicago style politics. Did you know about the Joyce foundation which is so big that it funds the Tides foundation which gives money to John Ayers……yep brother of that terrorist Bill Ayers. Look into the name of Richard Sandor which runs the CCX……known as the great lets get rich from green technology because of the greatest hoax known to man, global warming…..oh yes Algore has his greety little hands in it also.Sandor claims this could be a $10 trillion market annually….who looks like the greety ones now?........look up David Blood……Peter Harris……Mark Ferguson…..all Goldman Sachs employees……and guess who sits on the board of the Joyce foundation..... the great BO himself. This is just a small sample of what you will hear Beck layout…and guess what its all true….do the research.



    So let people watch….. do the necesary research...... then let them make up their own mind.

    But then moen you don’t want people to hear the truth about all this backroom Chicago style politics money machine because you are a true Marxist SOCIALIST.
     
  8. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    All this nonsense aside, if you read my original post you'd see that I have already said that Beck has every right to say whatever he wants, but I also said that I have the right to not pay for his right to say whatever he wants to say.

    You Righies have to put everything is such absolute terms and use such extreme rhetoric when criticizing your foes that most of your arguments fall apart in willy-nilly tangents of incoherent rambling.

    If you like Beck, watch and support him all you want. Heck, get your buddies to do so as well. I choose the opposite right and your criticism of my rights while defending Beck’s right to spew that garbage you are regurgitate is just a little bit hypocritical.
     
  9. claw

    claw New Member

    Dr MOEN,
    After reading this, What is Beck saaying that you dont agree with?
    What are his views?
    Why are you so opposed of him?

    I have only spent a few moments watching his show, and personally I could care less about him. I really dont trust the information on FOX, or the other major news corps. Could be just misinformation...
     
  10. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Dr moen has no choice but to "admit" Beck has the right to say what he wants but if you read between the lines it's obvious the good professor would like to see that right limited (can anyone say Fairness Doctrine?). It's typical liberal elitists double speak when they start by saying...."I know you have the right, but....." . Read the meaning of the good professor's message as "he has the right of free speech for now", until they get their way.
     
  11. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Is John Ayers a terrorist too? Or is he guilty by association?
     
  12. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    What is it that so terrifies you about letting someone else expressing their own opinions? Are you afraid that someone might actually learn something?
     
  13. craig a

    craig a New Member

    How is The Tides Foundation any different than ..um, lets say The Rockefeller Foundation? And I'm pretty sure John David Rockefeller was no wimpy-ass liberal. Sorry I meant John David.
     
  14. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    I haven't seen anyone here describe Beck's extreme Right wing propaganda as "terrifying" and I certainly haven't. Beck will say anything in the quest for higher ratings regardless the consequences. Truth isn't at issue and any normal network would have shown him the door long ago but we are talking about the mouthpiece of the GOP when we are talking about Fox.
    Beck has Carte Blanche to say anything racist, homophobic, misogynistic, or anything else that comes into his head and Fox supports it 100%. The question isn't whether I'm afraid that someone might actually learn something, the question is do I think we need more racism, more homophobia, or more misogyny aired openly in our society. I can say without a doubt, Hell no! Hatred and bigotry are two things that we already have plenty of and making the idiots of our society believe that it is OK to spew their hatred openly is all they are learning from Beck.
    I don't even believe Beck believes the things he is saying but as long as he is getting rich, he'll keep saying anything he wants regardless of whose ears it falls into. He is the most irresponsible individual I ever witnessed. He makes this stuff up as he goes along and there are low intelligence people all over this country that don't have the intellectual faculties to see through the clever little lies. They terrify me more than someone like Beck. Beck is nothing but a sniveling coward. He's the Baghdad Bob of the GOP.
     
  15. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    You always hear about these "outrageous" statements Beck makes but oddly no one ever steps forward with proof his comments are factually wrong....same old liberal tactic, when one's message is contrary to liberal ideology attack the messenger. What are some of Beck's lies? What racist statements does he make?
     
  16. jth

    jth New Member

    Two major differences are 1)Tides folowers are major radicals promoting social justice(fancy wording for marxist agenda). 2) Tides is a major money laundering operation.

    The Tides Foundation promotes a multitude of leftist agendas, as evidenced by its assertion: "We strengthen community-based organizations and the progressive movement by providing an innovative and cost-effective framework for your philanthropy." Among the crusades to which Tides contributes are: radical environmentalism; the "exclusion of humans from public and private wildlands"; the anti-war movement; anti-free trade campaigns; the banning of firearms ownership; abolition of the death penalty; access to government-funded abortion-on-demand; and radical gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender advocacy. The Foundation is also a member organization of the International Human Rights Funders Group, a network of more than six-dozen grantmakers dedicated to finaning leftwing groups and causes.
     
  17. jth

    jth New Member

    Damn, I shouldn't have included that last paragraph, Moen will send them his last paycheck.
     
  18. jth

    jth New Member

    I would also like hear what Beck said that was racist, anti-queer and of course misogynistic?
     
  19. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    But your satisfied with his racist comments?
     
  20. jth

    jth New Member

    Give me his "racist" comment(s) and I will tell you if I'm satisfied! But you can't can you. You are all about generalities but cannot give 1 simple little comment.
     
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