What is BO really up to?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by David, Mar 15, 2010.

  1. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther


    Another bold, enlightening and informative statement from a member of the party of no.
     
  2. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    How about the party of HELL NO! when it comes to this wreckless, irresponsible squandering of our tax dollars?
    (I can't take credit for "The Party of Hell No" as someone at work said it first)
     
  3. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Do you know the difference between 8 years of Bush spending and one year of Obama spending? Bush didn't have to pull this country back from the edge of financial ruin when he walked into office on his first day and yet he and the Republican congress spend like drunken sailors. Bush wasn't handed two wars that were kept off the books so that he could keep handing the wealthiest people in this country enormous tax breaks. Bush wasn't hand unemployment heading through the roof as a result of incompetent governing over the previous 8 years. Bush had every advantage when he walked into office and still blew it. Obama has had one year in office and has been handed the worst recession since FDR took over from Hoover and and NOW the Republicans want to whine about wreckless spending. Frankly, who cares.
     
  4. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    Amen.
     
  5. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Spending on defense is necessary, just ask BO. Spending trillion on "healthcare" just so you can proclaim that you have finally kept a campaign promise is simply wrong.
    Those of you who will defend BO no matter what he does or no matter how many lies are exposed and continue to blame Bush are in utter denial.
     
  6. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    moen, your like-minded friend seems to be quite the cheerleader...birds of a feather?
     
  7. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    No that was someone on Fox. Sarah P...the elected quitter. Way to repeat the talking points that the lemming network has assigned though.
     
  8. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    "A commander-in-chief leads the military built by those who came before him," then-vice presidential candidate Dick Cheney said during the 2000 campaign. "There is little that he or his defense secretary can do to improve the force they have to deploy. It is all the work of previous administrations. Decisions made today shape the force of tomorrow."
    The forces that President Bush sent into Afghanistan were those built up and funded under the Administration of President Carter, That gentelmen is fact not fiction, between the time that 9/11 occured and the invasion of Afghanistan President Bush's administration had not had time to recruit and train to a combat ready state the numbers required.
    Also on the terrorism front
    1996-03-14 - authorized $100 million counter-terrorism agreement with Israel to track down and root out terrorists.
    1996-04-24 - Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act
    And on Iraq
    1998-10-31 - Iraq Liberation Act
    President Bush was rather fond of quoting this item
    So please do not accuse President Carter of Emasculating the American armed forces he did not, he simply spent money in a wiser fashion also if you care to check out the numbers you will find the cuts in defence spending actualy begun under the previouse President Bush and were in direct response to the end of the cold war
    From 1986 when defense spending stood at some 6.2% of US GDP it droped year on year till it bottomed out at 3% in 2001, 2002 saw it rise to 3.4% and the following year to 3.7% this guy's was after the invasion of Afghanistan and discretionery spending was actualy higher in 1999 than it was in 2002!
     
  9. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    Denying healthcare to others when profits are as obsecene as they are today is wrong, and you will rail against Obama no matter what he does or doesn't do, and you will continue to remain silent when your party of mega greed is in power. I'd post some things Mr. Bush has done to literally poision people for corporate profit, but you wouldn't know truth if you fell over it. Besides, Bush helped kill 3000 Americans in one day...I guess poisioning a few hundred more in the name of profit isn't really any big surprise. Your party's leader dismembered regulations to badly during his reign of terror, it is doubtful if it can ever be reversed. Nothing like having piles of s*** everywhere you walk after the oil emperors are through for Obama to step in and then ridicule everything and anything the man tries to do to reverse any of it. Bush was/is a criminal of the highest order and deserves nothing less than permanent imprisionment, but your party will just continue to defend him and his massive corruption, death and destruction. The party of no. The party of obscene profit. Your party. How proud you must be. Long as your wallet is stuffed, you're good with it any way we get there. Right? Right...far right. Thanks for taking society down the corporate tubes of Hell.
     
  10. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Who has ever advocated denying medical coverage to anyone? tomc, this is a serious question I'd like you to answer. You love to throw around these little statements but they are nothing more than the talking points distributed by Pelosi & Reid and taken to the extreme by wackos like Michael Moore.

    My oppostion has always been that I believe I am capable of taking care of my own healthcare and making my own decisions. If I make the wrong decision I'll suck it up & move on. I don't need to be forced into a government program against my will. I don't think that is right. I believe that when the govn't bureacracizes healthcare the quality will go down & red tape will increase. Why not make it a voluntary program? Virtually every other entitlement is based on voluntary inclusion, why not this one?

    I'll await your response.
     
  11. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    The problem with that answer David is you are not only making the decision for yourself but also for your family, now would you still be willing to as you put it "Suck it up" if it was a child of yours or the child of your child whos life was in the ballance? The one area I do agree with you that needs to be carfuly monitored is the bureacracy, that needs very tight controll you have to ensure that front line services do not suffer because of over management
     
  12. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Actually, I was answering for my family. If I can opt out of this or any other Barack-cracy, I would do so...fully accepting any & all risk involved.
     
  13. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    The funny part is that if you have health coverage you like, you get to keep it. No one is going to make you drop it and buy any government plan since no government plan actually exists. But keep slaying those windmills Don Quixote.
     
  14. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Yes David that is exactly what I said you were doing
     
  15. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    What if I decide to drop coverage, will I still have the freedom to decide what is best for me & my family or will I be forced into BO's healthcare?
     
  16. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    You could always leave the country. :)

    If you decided to have no kind of health care coverage, you'd still receive medical care for yourself and your family. The rest of us would end up covering you and your families medical expenses. For all OF the railing you do for personal responsibility, why would would you behave so irresponsibly? I don't get the point of your "What if"...
     
  17. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    You can still drop coverage as far as I can tell from the bill. You will be fined for doing so - just like you will be fined if you want too good of insurance coverage.

    But, you can still do it.
     
  18. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    Aww be cool...just light another cigar...pop another cork! Just go suck up to your Boss...they'll make sure you get covered.
     
  19. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    But do I have the freedom to drop it if I so choose?
    You support this health plan but what if you were forced to participate in a govn't program that you didn't agree with? Would you feel the same?
     
  20. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    Yes, you have the freedom to drop it if you choose. No one is going to put you in jail if you drop coverage. You will pay a fine but, just like the census, you can choose not to participate.
     

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