Yeah, tom is debating himself it has taken this long to declare himself the weiner, err, I mean the whiner...oops, I meant the winner.
Yes I can see that. The multitude of points I've raised and not one intelligent response. Thanks for the verification.
Still don't get it. If someone can PM me what I'm missing, I would appreciate it. Otherwise I'll just chalk it up to tom's odd sense of humor.
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these are big words. i've read and written several papers myself on this topic, so hopefully i have some added value to this discussion. the foundation of my opinion on this particular topic is based on this: if something seems out of the ordinary, it probably is. something seems odd about the JFK assassination. people who were from that time will agree. mysterious evidence, the speed of finding the gunman, the 'loose ends' taken care of in the following weeks - car crashes, house fires, etc. anyone halfway involved, cleaned up. this sticks out like a sore thumb in America's history and there are many obvious reasons why the gov't might have wanted this. If you use the same rationale when it comes to the WTC attacks, you will arrive at the same conclusion: something just doesn't seem right. Too many loose ends, too many unanswered questions. If 2 planes hit the WTC towers and 1 hit the Pentagon, and that was it, well then folks, that would be that. But a lack of answers on the goverment's part, and lack of footage with the Pentagon combined with many, many suspicious events that took place before, during and after September 11 lead me to believe that the government was aware of what was going to happen that day. Maybe not backed the job per se, but involved nonetheless.
Congratulations bud. I just knew somebody had to have the ability to pull their head out of their *ss! WTG dude. There's one or two people in here that can think and arrive at the same general conclusions. Then there are lemmings who don't have a clue and believe the whole made up fable, hook, line, and sinker. (there usually Bush backers and Fox watchers, hard right shills). So what do you know about the events? Where can I fill in some missing details?
I would have to say the most critical point in controversy would lie around WTC 7. It was deliberately left out of the 9/11 Commission Report. [warning: large file!] I would bet 99% of the people here have not even read parts of it. Let's make this easy for everyone. The government's job in this is to collect ALL data in connection with this event, examine it, and turn it into useful information for the People, agree? We have video, radio, and first-hand accounts of the building being "pulled." Accounts even from . EDIT: i can no longer find any link to the radio broadcast of the fire chief saying to pull the building. Ask yourself: If the building simply fell from a fire (no steel building has ever fallen from fire or i would have provided a link for you to compare), why so many unanswered questions? Why edit so much footage and personal accounts? NIST dragged their feet for years because they didn't know how it could have fallen either. Solve this one piece, and you answer the big question.
Good observations. WTC7 is key, but for reasons unclear to me, the lemmings ignore it or dismiss it by reasoning (if you can call it that) just because WTC7 fell suspiciously, doesn't mean...blah, blah, blah. People are stupid is my explanation. The 9/11 "omission" report is similar to the Warren commission fiasco....not much content other than distortions, omissions and outright lies (so much so that even the individuals on that phony propaganda piece admit they were lied to, obstructed, misled, etc). I think they're trying to cover their own rear ends and avoid future prosecution in the future personally. Other key points are cell phones didn't work at 35-40 thousand feet in 2001 (and I doubt now), but on 9/11, people were just calling all over the place with ease (according to the fable). Yet another key is the refusal by our beloved leaders, to show any one of the hundred of videos and photos captured by the myriad of cameras pointed at the Pentagon that day that would easily explain what exactly hit the Pentagon (but understandably, they can't do that when their own missile hit it). Yet another key is the obvious military stand down that HAD to have occurred to allow the automatic defense measures to be nullified. It goes on and on dude. You couldn't make this stuff up. Yet our beloved populous would rather stick their heads in the sand and hide from it. I can only conclude that people are indeed stupid, or are too afraid to address the facts because they're afraid of the ramifications. Either way, it happened, and you can't fix what you don't acknowledge IMO, and until the lemmings address it collectively, things like this will expand and continue. That's what the populous apparently craves I guess..too caught up in themselves to give it a look.
Dude...I totally missed the first part of your post first time around. What stuff have you written? I'd be interested to check out whatever you can provide and I would look forward to any additional information, opinions or whatever else I could learn. I'd like to compare information and ideas with you! Also please excuse me for not welcoming you to the forum as well!
Okay, tom, your question pertained to the black boxes, right? I'm pretty sure the black boxes have all been accounted for. If by chance one is missing I would attribute that to the violence of the crash itself. My whole contention with your 9/11 "evidence" has simply been that there has never been an action like this before. All the convoluted science is pure speculation- no one knows how material will react under those circumstances, only how it should react. Just because things didn't happen the way some scientists thought they should doesn't a conspiracy make.
David, your a smart guy. Be absolute neutral in your thinking and start digging. It took me almost 2 years to believe what I thought I would never believe. It will never work unles you are analytical, open, and intellectually honest with yourself. Seek the truth no matter where it takes you. chances are, the more you look, the more questions you will have, and trust me, it gets pretty ugly.
