Yeah all of these good folks contributed in one fashion or another to shedding some light on 911...and disagree with the official b*lls**t story that you smart and saavy people apparently have little problem with. The two or three geniuses that continually respond in their usual non thinking manner, thank God, don't represent the growing masses who are able to think a bit more critically. But you boys keep on displaying the defective reasoning that has this country in a world of hurt. What patriots!!
OK! I give. You have inundated us with teachers names, psychologists names, writers names, students names, peoples names choosing not to reveal their education, even a talk show host's name, etc. Just what does that have to do with Steven Jones qualifications or, for that matter, a thermite reaction.
Well I thought I'd list other some folks beliefs besides that of the two or three spin wizards in here...an attempt to show that there are plenty of folks who don't agree with the shill propaganda you and others participate in. Steven E. Jones qualifications are easy to google, as are thermite reaction video. For people like you and a couple others....I could have a video and signed the confessions of "elevator workers" depicting the crimes and you chums would find some way to dismiss it. Now if I bring up proof concerning 911...you'll want to talk about making pizzas....that the mentality I face routinely. Tis ok though. I do indeed understand the imbalanced mindset of the right and the of those that have agendas to push forward. What I don't understand is how anybody could purposefully be that ignorant. Here's more educated research and opinions on the nano thermite crimes of that criminal day. Kevin Ryan...formerly of Underwriters Lab seems to think the method of demolition is very plausible too....but you just keep filling us in on the details of what really happened with the sensational wit and intellect you proudly display. http://www.911review.com/articles/ryan/nist_thermite_connection.html
Post it! Post it! Sounds like the same dance you did with the poll business. That all you got is recycled, issue blurring tactics? Google thermite video. It's easy and it's instant. But you know that already. Create and jump through your own hoops, and comment on yourself. You should like that I'd imagine. Don't you get it? I won't because you tell me to!
Did you or did you not tell us that you would post a link to a video of a thermite reaction? Why is it so difficult for you to even follow through on something so simple? Instead you post a video of the charlatan leader of the truther movement. Face it, would anyone in this world know who Steven Jones was were it not for 9/11. He was a career failure as an academic scientist who leeched on to the 9/11 conspiracy theory to grab his 15 minutes of fame in life. Here is a quote by a 9/11 blogger, Victor Chabala! First of all, Steven Jones may be a physicist- formerly at Brigham Young University (BYU)- but he has no experience in analyzing building collapses. Second, while his paper was indeed peer-reviewed, it was NOT peer-reviewed by a civil engineering journal (his other peer-reviewed papers were on the subject of cold fusion). As the previous link points out, a truly serious- and honest- professor would have the paper peer-reviewed by a scientific journal that actually specializes in the field they’re writing the paper on. And third, the ENTIRE BYU Physics and Civil and Environmental Departments disagree with him. It seems to me that if he’s got two entire departments disagreeing with him, Steven Jones’ credibility is somewhat lacking, to say nothing of the fact that he uses David Ray Griffin, a THEOLOGIAN as an “authority.” I command you not to post the link so that I can destroy your credibility with every word you type. Thanks in advance for not posting the link you clown.
Victor Chabala??? You're too funny dude. You accuse me of credibility issues?!?...LOLOL...It does bring me a little closer to figuring you out and what your agenda is and who you probably represent.....Victor Chabala......LOL....no right wing propaganda there! Too damn funny...LMAO...
...don forget the thousands of architects and building/structural engineers that believe 911 could only have been achieved by designed demolition. They have no credibility either...right? http://www.ae911truth.org/ C'mon man...Sign the petition!! Clown!
I wouldn't hire any of those idiots to do anything. The entire idea that the WTC buildings were brought down using nanothermite as a controlled demolition is absolutely ridiculous. Everything on that site is propaganda. And only clowns like you are dumb enough to believe that crap.
Yeah...yeah...everybody is a clown. Everybody is an idiot. You however, are the walking sole authority on the subject. Everyone who has done the research isn't credible. People with educated opinions based on research they actually DID do (as opposed most of the lemmings of your mindset) are all bogus. People that were there that day...victims...first responders...fireman....they're all batty. They didn't see or hear what that heard or saw. They heard and saw only what they are officially told that they saw and heard. Steel structured skyscrapers falling at free fall speed without the assistance of pre positioned explosives is nothing unusual. Buildings falling in the middle of an afternoon all by themselves are common place, and always reported on LIVE as having already fallen, BEFORE THEY FELL. Nothing to be concerned about. Probably thousands of camera evidence that could easily prove or disprove the entire controversy being made "unavailable" means absolutely nothing sinister. The inability of even a single piece of air support over the most secured facility in the US for extended periods of time is quite normal. Everyone was just caught with their pants down and completely inept.. nobody knew how to do anything in defense of the most secure airspace.. probably on the planet is completely understandable. Simultaneous mock simulations of planes flying into buildings and false radar blips is completely routine and nothing to be concerned about. Box cutter waving cave dwellers that didn't know how to fly, performing acrobatic maneuvers that professional and military pilots say they couldn't do, over the country's most secure airspace in broad daylight without even a single photograph or piece of film showing these fantastic maneuvers and their supposed results actually depicting ANYTHING is completely run of the mill. EVERYBODY was just busy, inept, surprised, or incompetent that day. Perfectly acceptable. We have cameras that can photograph somebody smoking a cigarette from space, but we can't provide a single piece of photographic verification of these amazing feats over Washington. Got it. No satellite would be actively seeking anything of consequence while the country was knowingly under attack. That makes perfect sense. Eyewitnesses claiming anything different than the official line are incorrect, liars, and simply not credible. Roger that. On and on and on and on. It all makes perfect sense...doesn't it?
That post was just a whole bunch of truther talking points, nothing more. As for your witnesses and believers, for every crazy one, there are hundreds of experts and witnesses that will refute your wackjob truther conspiracy theories. I have kicked your ass in every aspect of this debate over and over. I ask you to post one very simple link that you refuse to post because you know that when you do, I will use it to make you look like the clown that you are. You like to dismiss important facts like the properties of structural steel and how they are affected by heat while at the same time throwing out ridiculous things like the absence of satellite photos of the planes as some sort of evidence. Did you make that one up yourself? That one is so absurd that I doubt even the head clowns (Jones & Griffin) would use it.
...anything short of full compliance with all aspects the official story constitute wacko mania..according to you....or so states your main objective of disinformation, distraction, and re focusing attention somewhere other than where is will expose the truth. That's your MO. Such is life.. Oh....by the way...NIST released bunches of video that confirm explosions repeatedly in the link below. I guess you'd say their own newly released footage is something other than what it appears to be...correct? Maybe that's why NIST fought so damn hard to not have the video released at all. TOOOOOO LATE!!!!! http://www.prisonplanet.com/new-911-footage-reveals-wtc-7-explosions.html Like we needed more proof??? Wake up lemmings!
No comments here huh? Truth has once again caused heads to bury themselves in sand. http://www.prisonplanet.com/collaps...utiny-after-explosive-dust-samples-found.html Damn!!! Those pesky explosive chips found again causing the lemmings to walk off cliffs everywhere. Ok now...spin disinformation experts....spin it all away! This means you Lehigh.
You have posted this garbage many times before. Nothing but truther propaganda and has been debunked over and over. Now post a link to a video showing a thermite reaction you clown. I guess you don't mind being a ****ing liar huh?
I like posting the truth. that may benefit thinking Americans. I do not like dancing through your hoops nor what you promise to debate me but after the first presented fact that I try to discuss with your heiness...you run away from my points and go create your own disinformation. We've also been over this ground once or twice. I can't debate you without a moderator forcing you to answer simple questions in a straight forward, no dodge, honest discussion of the many, many, large holes in the official story. http://www.prisonplanet.com/cbs-report-on-911-ground-level-explosion-caused-wtc-to-collapse.html MORE FIREMAN!!!! DISAGREEING WITH LEHIGH! On Noooooooo! Not again!!!!
I hate to break it to you but nobody on this forum clicks on any link from either prisonplanet or 911truth websites. Both sites are so obviously biased that they are worthless. You are the only person who considers them newsworthy. You were the one who said you would post the link to the thermite video. At the time, you mentioned nothing of jumping through hoops. What happened? Did you check with the truther movement leaders and they told you videos of thermite reactions would show that there are no audible explosions associated with thermite reactions? Did they inform you that it would kill your entire secondary explosions theory? Is that what happened top clown? I have not dodged any of your questions. However, I recall making a post with at least 20 questions for you. You have not answered even one of those questions. And you call me the dodger! Every post you make on this forum provides more evidence of how big a clown you really are!
Yeah...I understand the biased part. Reason I lend no credibility to the obviously biased right wingers in here. Some people do indeed "click the clinks". They just don't have the b*lls to respond in an intelligent manner. I haven't checked in with any fellow truthers either..sorry to burst your bubble Sparky. I didn't respond because your direction (again the biased points of view your referenced) come into play. You HAVE dodged my questions by taking the posts and running off in some ridiculous direction trying to align them with your warped logic, trying to refocus the spotlight in some other way not intended to expose truth. Like I've said many times, an attempt by you to blur the lines, shift the focus, or otherwise avoid my intended points. You're very good at that. Congratulations. You are a credit to the disinformation specialists you so tediously defend. I'll continue to represent the honest and irrefutable overall truth that, at the very least.. 911 was directly or indirectly assisted, intentionally controlled, or otherwise manipulated by factions of our own government, and in the worse case, directly pre planned, constructed and carried out exclusively by our own government. In the meantime, I'll also continue to point out obvious areas of concern that no thinking individual (if they are actually seeking out truth) should be able to ignore (assuming they're not too lazy to look). Points like the following: Air Defense Failures The US air defense system failed to follow standard procedures for responding to diverted passenger flights. The timelines The various responsible agencies - NORAD, FAA, Pentagon, USAF, as well as the 9/11 Commission - gave radically different explanations for the failure (in some cases upheld for years), such that several officials must have lied; but none were held accountable. Could there have been an air defense standdown? War Games conducted along with the real thing.. US military and other authorities planned or actually rehearsed defensive response to all elements of the 9/11 scenario during the year prior to the attack - including multiple hijackings, suicide crashbombings, and a strike on the Pentagon. These multiple military wargames had been planned long in advance and held on the morning of September 11th included scenarios of a domestic air crisis, a plane crashing into a government building, and a large-scale emergency in New York. If this was only an incredible series of coincidences, why did the official investigations avoid the issue? There is evidence that the wargames created confusion as to whether the unfolding events were "real world or exercise." Did wargames serve as the cover for air defense sabotage, and/or the execution of an "inside job"? The Pentagon strike.. How was it possible the Pentagon was hit 1 hour and 20 minutes after the attacks began? Why was there no response from Andrews Air Force Base, just 10 miles away and home to Air National Guard units charged with defending the skies above the nation''s capital? How did Hani Hanjour, a man who failed as a Cessna pilot on his first flight in a Boeing, execute a difficult aerobatic maneuver to strike the Pentagon? Why did the attack strike the just-renovated side, which was largely empty and opposite from the high command? President Bush and his Saudi "connections".. The 9/11 investigations made light of the "Bin Ladin Airlift" during the no-fly period, and ignored the long-standing Bush family business ties to the Bin Ladin family fortune. (A company in which both families held interests, the Carlyle Group, was holding its annual meeting on September 11th, with George Bush Sr., James Baker, and two brothers of Osama Bin Ladin in attendance.) ...and even simple, basic questions that should be asked....such as: Why was the WTC privatized just before its destruction? Why Donald Rumsfeld announce a "war on waste" after an internal audit found that the Pentagon was "missing" 2.3 trillion dollars in unaccounted assets on September 10th 2001 and on September 11th 2001,...virtually forgotten? Did 9/11 prevent a stock market crash? Did anyone benefit from the destruction of the Securities and Exchange Commission offices at WTC 7, and the resultant crippling of hundreds of fraud investigations? Why the rapid and ILLEGAL scrapping of the WTC ruins at Ground Zero disposed of almost all of the structural steel indispensable to any investigation of the collapse mechanics? Did cell phones work at 30,000 feet in 2001? How many hijackings were attempted? How many flights were diverted? Why were members of the Bin Laden family secretly and quickly flown out of the country when all domestic flights were still grounded and effectively "excused" from investigation? So....as I have said all along, there are many, many, many, questions (and these are but a few....trust me) that need to be answered. Mum is the word though..."officially". Seems to me that these endless questions could be partially or entirely answered, or some government official, some agency, SOMEONE.....could offer satisfactory answers to these and a host of other related offshoots of the matter. But they don't.....because they can't. So....like the American people...they HOPE it will all go away, so that, not unlike the JFK assassination, if they ignore it long enough, that 40 or 50 years from now (assuming we're all still here and haven't annihilated ourselves) that the truth will then at that point, be of little consequence. It will probably work too, because as I've also said before....the American are too lazy, too stupid, too ignorant, or too self consumed to look for (much less discover) the actual truth. In the meantime.....I will continue in my probably vain efforts, to hope that SOMEBODY will awaken, and further awaken the masses, and the possibility of a future for our children that we all pretend to care so much about.
Can you imagine how batsh*t the republicans would be going if Obama had financial ties to Bin Laden??? They'd have called for impeachment, jail, etc..etc..etc.. But since it is one of theirs...shhhhh!! Don't tell anybody and it will go away! Financial ties and quietly flying the Bin Laden out of the country. Had Obama done this...can you imagine????? I hope people can at least ascertain the level of insincerity and hypocrisy the wealthy right wing engages in and how they protect their own. Traitors who are insulated by their wealth.
Why was Dick Cheney tracking flight 77? I guess he was just curious. Kevin Ryan of UL asks this question along with many others. Bravo Mr. Ryan! http://911truthnews.com/a-dozen-questions-about-flight-77-and-the-pentagon/
