The P-56-A airspace boxcutters wandered in to The Pentagon sits inside the P-56-A restricted air space section that extends 17 miles in all directions from the Washington Monument, and that activated air defenses from a joint FAA/Secret Service radar and air traffic control at Langley, VA for many years prior to 9/11. Interceptor fighter jets in that area, which is separate from and more restricted than FAA commercial air space, as well as much better defended, were regularly scrambled when small or commercial planes went off course or were not on scheduled routes within a larger Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) that extends 50 miles out to give time for the response. Andrews Air Force base, within 10 miles of the city as well as the 113th Air Wing of the National Guard at Anacostia NAS have provided consistent scramble-ready defenses for the P-56 sector, which protects the most important government buildings. Commercial pilots have also long complained about the difficult curving maneuvers necessary to land or take off at Washington National Airport (now Reagan) to avoid entering P-56-B, the three-mile inner restricted zone above the White House, Capitol and Pentagon. These multiple layers of defense inexplicably failed on 9/11 in the midst of a national crisis. Flight 77 was picked up by Langley entering the ADIZ according to the testimony of Mr. Mineta to the 9/11 Commission concerning a plane that was "50 miles out". That could only have been Flight 77, no others got that close, and the timing at 9:24-9:26 AM that he gives for the comment is also consistent with the timing of the impact. Neither was FAA/NORAD out of radar contact with the flight for more than a few minutes, since it was picked up by Indianapolis long before being seen by FAA ATC controllers in the DC area.
"The whole world saw it. Those jets flew into the skyscrapers, there were enormous explosions and the fires brought the buildings down. We all saw it with our own eyes everybody knows it!" 2. The buildings were architecturally designed to absorb energy and to sway in storms. According to witnesses who were in the building relatively near to where the planes made contact, the towers briefly swayed for seconds as intended. Other witnesses in the area said that the noise and blasts were significant, but the tremor felt, at the time of contact, was minimal. 3. Fact: No steel structured building in New York , the United States or in the World has ever come down due to fire! b. Jet fuel when mixed in precise proportions with air will burn briefly at 1800 Degrees Fahrenheit. c. Because of the debris (carpeting, sheetrock, furniture, concrete, aluminum, etc.) and lack of oxygen, the fire at the VVTC probably burned at 1200 to 1300 Degrees Fahrenheit. 5. It must also be remembered that: a significant proportion of the fuel exploded outside of the buildings; the exterior columns were exposed to the air on three sides and would dissipate heat at a fast rate; and the beams and columns were coated with fireproofing materials. 6. The official story is the buildings came down at point of contact because the intensity of the fires caused the trusses to push out the columns. Yet, when one views the hole created in the North Tower by the plane, there are only relatively small fires and the heat must not be excessive because you can see two people standing and staring out near the opening. 7. The top section of the South Tower began to tilt at approximately 9:59 am. At this moment, a large cloud of gray dust suddenly puffed out of the building. The 35 stories of the top section continued to tip to 23 degrees past vertical. At this point the upper segment was hanging over the edge by approximately 65 feet. In frame by frame pictures, one can see the concentric and uniform mushrooming gray cloud rapidly expand to envelope the building. As this was happening, one can see debris being blown away from the building with an extremely powerful blast. The overhanging upper section of the building was then mysteriously shrouded and was never seen again. Then the whole building came straight down. Within an incredibly fast 10.4 seconds, the once mighty 1350 foot tower was reduced to a pile of totally pulverized remains 8. The complete demolition of the North Tower at 10:29 am took only 8.1 seconds. The North Tower came neatly down upon itself and its remains were equally powdered. 9. Facts are very stubborn things. According to The Law of Falling Bodies as originally put forward by Galileo and still accepted today by all scientists (as described in the World Book Encyclopedia under Falling Bodies, Law of), the total distance traveled at the end of any specific time in a total vacuum is calculated by this formula: Distance (d) = (32.16/2) x Time in Seconds Squared. We know that the towers were 1350 feet tall, thus you would have this equation for the fastest time of total drop in a vacuum: 1350 = (32.16/2) x Time in Seconds Squared. This works out to 9.1627 seconds as the fastest time these buildings could come down. This presents some very interesting questions because the WTC South Tower came down in 10.4 seconds, and WTC North Tower came down in 8.1 seconds. Additionally, there was resistance, and plenty of it ‑ the resistance was the massive lower sections of the buildings that were stabilized by over 250 major interior and exterior steel columns, and thousands of steel trusses! This defies the laws of gravity! Thus, either the height of the buildings is inaccurate, the time of the falls is inaccurate, the scientific calculation that has been used for hundreds of years is inaccurate, or . . . something pulled down these buildings at a faster rate. Check it out for yourself. 10. Remember the gray cloud that concentrically blasted out and down the imploding buildings and chased thousands of New Yorkers down the streets while covering the whole area with a sand-like substance what was that stuff? It was cement, and other materials, that had been crystallized. Could the blast of jet fuel create this crystallization? No, because at full blast, jet fuel only expands at 208 feet per second. Could a compression demolition do this? No, there is not enough latent energy the cement would crack and break, but would not pulverize. The only way the molecular composition of these materials could be so scrambled is if there were small scale nuclear devices or there were hi-tech explosives. Since there are no unusual readings of radioactivity that can be confirmed, modern explosives are the logical choice. Hi-tech explosives, such as RDX, or C-4, can expand at over 1000 feet per second, and create extremely hot temperatures. Modern explosives could cause the crystallization of the building materials, while creating a vacuum that could pull down the buildings at a faster than normal speed, and leave a residue of extremely high temperatures. 11. FEMA put forward this hurried and very short explana*tion concerning the collapse of the WTC North and South buildings: "Expansion of floor slabs and framing results in outward deflection of columns and potential overload." From this `expert' opinion, the administration and media have aggressively promoted the `Pancake Theory' which claims that the floor trusses expanded, which caused the columns to buckle, the joints to break and the floors then compressed upon themselves. However, an objective observer would consider these important points: a. Never before has any steelframed building come down because of fire the WTC fires only burned for relatively short periods of time and at low heat levels. b. For the WTC buildings to react in this way, literally thousands of super heavy duty joints and welds would have to snap' at precisely the same instant (remember, these particular buildings were engineered for expansion and flexibility, there was also fire retardant sprayed on all of the steel, and the burning patterns were inconsistent throughout the floors). c. A `pancake collapse' could not come down with such speed. d. A pancake collapse' would not have the latent energy to crystallize the building materials, to shred aluminum or blast rubble to such distances. e. A `pancake collapse' would not create, or maintain, the astronomical heat patterns which were recorded and were monitored for weeks afterwards. 12. On Sept. 16th, five days after the attack, NASA flew a plane over the site to take measurements and to create a thermal surface map. In this period of time hundreds of truckloads of debris had already been carried off, and firemen had sprayed millions of gallons of water on the smoking rubble. The results show that there were several `hot spots' with temperatures over 1000 Fahrenheit on the surface, with one spot at the South Tower that recorded 1377 degrees! Most of us noticed that the area continued to smoke for weeks. Since neither tons of jet fuel, nor a compression demolition, have the potential to create this type of heat much less maintaining this heat for days afterwards an impartial detective would have to conclude that there was another source for these extreme temperatures. 13. WTC building 6 is an important part of the puzzle. Shortly after WTC 2 was hit, there was a huge explosion that appears to emanate from the center section of WTC building 6. Only later did the building catch on fire. It then burned for hours at a very hot temperature and the fire was eventually put out. Again, an objective investigator would ask: a. What caused the building to explode before it caught on fire? b. After the center of the building had been blown apart, and it had experienced a prolonged and intense fire, why did this building not come down like buildings 1, 2 and 7? The facts surrounding WTC 7, a forty‑seven story building, are even more bizarre. WTC 7 was built on top of a major electrical substation that housed ten large transformers. Further, the landlord had allowed his tenants to install large diesel fuel tanks with a capacity of 42,000 gallons to take care of emergency power generation in the building. Some of the major tenants in the building were: Mayor Giuliani, who had built a $13 million dollar `control bunker' in this building; The CIA; The Department of Defense, and; The Secret Service. It seems quite strange that the mayor would build such an expensive bunker in a building that was on top of such potentially explosive tanks and transformers. Additionally, WTC 7 was not reported to be on fire until 3 pm ‑ this is five hours after WTC 1 & 2 had collapsed! These fires were relatively minor and had been burning for less than three hours when the whole thing came tumbling down at 5:25 pm. It appears from pictures to be a totally conventional demolition. There were no huge explosions, the building walls fell neatly in on themselves and the rubble was cracked and broken (not pulverized) It is said that, "Every picture tells a story," and in the case of the seismic activity as documented by Columbia University Seismology Group, there are some very interesting stories. The South Tower registered a tremor of 2.1 and came down in approximately 10.4 seconds. The North Tower registered a tremor of 2.3 and came down in just slightly over 8 seconds. The pattern that is registered
Would this be enough evidence FOXstriches?? http://www.prisonplanet.com/wikileaks-releases-573000-pager-intercepts-from-911.html Happy Thanksgiving turkeys.
Fact: Islam is the cause of 9/11 and the 1,000's of terrorists attacks in a name their religion well before, during, and after 9/11/01. When you have muslims yelling out "Allah Akbar" (just like all muslim jihadists - i.e., Ft. Hood Muslim terrorist) before United 93 crashed, the MOTIVE is very cleaer. LOL..."Remotely flying Jet airlines into buildings"...now I heard it all from these whacked out conspiracists.
When I read these Fox asides, I really have to wonder if you truly think people who watch CNN or MSNBC (or pick your mainstream liberal news outlet of choice) believe it either.
It's a better explanation than Hani doing miraculous tricks with planes that seasoned commercial and military pilots say that they couldn't do themselves. PSST....you can google that too.
Isn't it hilarious that the MSM doesn't even mention this? Geez.. I'd woulda thought at least Fox would be all over this one! Ohh..wait..can't pin it on Obama so better not mention it. LOL.
Hey I was just wondering. Do steel beams always look like this after fire makes a building fall down? Some nutty Foxer said they always do. I was just trying to think how many other steel framed buildings that fell from fire in an hour look like they've been cut at 45 degree angles. Can anybody help me out? Please don't tell me welders and torch users did this after the fact. You guys are all so bright, I know someone can help me.
You didn't stump anyone. The debate has been over since like page 35. Since then, you have been playing with yourself (masterdebater?) Now stop cluckin and post the poll!
Guys- I know, I know don't encourage him but..... Trick photography? Doctored photos? Someone with a conclusion who then twists the "evidence" to "prove" their theory? How can anyone state as fact what happens to a steel & concrete structure when a hundred ton aircraft, full of flammable fuel, dive bombs into it at a high rate of speed? Have similar occurences been studied? Oh, there haven't been similar occurences? Then how does anyone know how for sure how the structure will respond? Hundreds of tons of debris raining down on the material below it...fires burning? Who knows? Secrets aren't kept in this country that involve only a hand full of people- think the press. How could a conspiracy like this involving multiple political parties, multiple countries & thousands of people worldwide not be exposed (with real evidence, not the convoluted hunches & questionable science you rely on)? Where's the guy with evidence popping up on one of the news channels? If this was all staged, how lucky were the terrorists piloting the plane to strike the building that was "rigged" to collapse? When was this building rigged to implode? By whom? Was the Pentagon rigged as well (it was a target)? How many other buildings around the world are teetering on collapse, just waiting for a terrorist attack to happen?
Didnt you read all of his posts? All of the buildings in NYC were rigged for explosion. Just in case those guys changed course and hit the Chrysler or Empire State or Flatiron or any tall building. And then after 9/11, those who planted the bombs went around and took all the rigging out of all the buildings. Jeez, dont you know anything? Its such a logical explanation.
I can't believe I am actually about to come to Tom's defense, but I feel it is only fair. Tom's theory is that 9/11 was an "inside job" perpetrated by the Republicans in the US government. In his version of events, there were no terrorists involved. He has made several posts proclaiming that many of the 19 reported jihadists are still alive. His theory is that the government used remote controlled planes to crash into the WTC buildings which were already rigged with nano thermite charges by government mercenaries over a weekend when the entire complex was shut down. He believes that the entire thing was a hoax and that the government knew that the planes alone would not bring down the buildings. You can't expect him to explain things that are not part of his theory. However, I did once ask him to explain how the entire North & South towers of the WTC were rigged with nano-thermite charges in one weekend. IMO, that type of work in that time period would require thousands of people to accomplish. I got no answer. I asked him to provide a motive for the genocide of thousands of Americans and got no answer. I don't count unsubstantiated claims about put options as a motive. If money was the reason, the government officials could have used a fake terrorist attack to steal the money without killing thousands. Sound familiar, yeah I liked the Die Hard movies as well. I have asked repeatedly how all of this was kept a secret and his response was that they were either bribed, intimidated/threatened, and/or killed. That theory is impossible for me to believe. The potential monetary reward for exposing the scandal would outweigh the danger of being killed in enough people in the know to have broken the story wide open. When he responds to this post, it will be a string of 8-10 consecutive long posts designed to avoid answering the questions about the wholes in his story. A story which is not even his, but a regurgitation of the truther movement leaders story. Tom is a willing pawn in that movement based solely on his apparent hatred for the Repulican party and it's members.
Oh sorry, only the first paragraph was in defense of him. The rest of the post was a result of habit.
If you question the pic's integrity, I can post many more or refer you to more of the same. Secrets aren't kept? Yeah ok. If you'd even dig a little bit, you'd find your answers rather easily. Remote control (used by the military for decades now) was how they "flew" the planes. 45 degree angled cut steel...trick photography? What an insightful response. Handful of people...like the handful that kept the Manhattan Project under wraps you mean? No "luck" involved in hitting the buildings. The computer's guaranteed that. How many other buildings? I don't know. How many other buildings was Marvin Bush head of security for? Perhaps an architect or a building engineer could answer your "questions" about what burns, what doesn't, how steel reacts, etc. I can refer you to professionals (many,many) that share my same opinion on that subject. LOOK for yourself.
