Nobody knew of collapse Geez...as one poster put it...and I paraphrase.. If only THEY would put forth some reasonable explanation, THEY could gain some credibility. Nah....must be a conspiracy theorist. This video sounds, looks normal enough to me.
Yeah Jack..those cuts are from the Naudet brothers that were filming the documentary that wound up catching everything on tape. See, I thought that was old news and everyone already knew that but., maybe not...maybe folks know even less than I thought they did, hence, the problem with believing anything now. Wow is right. I own the dvd..have for years now. They were walking around filming inside the main lobby, walking up the stalled escalators to the second floor, showing the blown out glass everywhere..(obviously well before the towers fell) and everything else on both floors all blown to hell. IN THE LOBBY. If you couple that with Mr. Rodriguez's testimony (a long time maintenance worker there) that bombs were going off UNDER and JUST ABOVE him BEFORE the planes hit...well...doesn't leave too much to figure out, I don't think. I only wish folks would make an active effort to look for stuff like that. There are many, many eyewitness reports from firefighters, police, people that got out of the bulidings that pretty much all say the same things...that bombs were going off prior to collapse. I hope that clip awakened in you, to whatever it is inside of you, the need to look further. You don't have to go real far before you can draw pretty simple conclusions.
One thing, those guy's could have been talking about any building coudnt they? I heard world trade center memtioned once only, now do you have a link to the full thing and not a set of edited comments, that would be much appreciated.
I can tell you that they were talking about 1 and 2, as I said, I own the documentary. I would think that you could probably find more clips. I dont' know if you'd find the whole movie but it's possible. Just google "naudet brothers 911" and I'm sure you'd find plenty of references. You could just call me names and say I'm lying (but you didn't) Good day.
Does repeating the lies of someone else count as lying, or is it stupidity. Either way, I see that you have only two choices. BTW, I guess that it is completely inconceivable that a building that was just hit by a plane would have broken glass on other floors. It is much more likely that someone was doing some preliminary testing of the nano thermite charges. Kinda like pregame warm ups. And a real good way send your conspiracy theory down the toilet. If the conspiracy was a large and well planned out as you truther donkeys contend, there is no way there would have been preliminary explosions.
Why would I say you are lying Tom, I havenot seen the vid in question so can not comment as to if I believe it or not! I only ever call someone out if I can prove they are lying What I will say though is the shockwaves comming from the ignition of the fuel on board the plane would have been tremendouse, I have seen what a simple hand grenade can do in a enclosed space thats quite impressive.
This actually shows inside the lobby with the glass blown out. I'm looking for the one showing htem walking up the dead escalators..that one really tells the story.
Hey man..(and you can take this as my very last reponse to your nauseousness)..I AIN'T interested in what you have to say, so post if you must, but you don't need to address me....but "post away"... knock yourself out...hopefully literally.
Blown lobby footage The building was obviously still standing while this was being filmed. Characterize it, explain it, however you like...I know what it looks like to me.
I don't care what the hell you are interested in. You are an imposter who is spreading second rate propaganda all over the internet because you have absolutely no life. Even as far as conspiracy theorists go, you are low on the food chain. You spend all of your time regurgitating the original ideas of the actual conspiracy theorists. You have proven not to understand many of the relevant subjects to 9/11 including metallurgy, physics, and pyrology just to name a few. You refuse to answer questions because either you can't or the answer would hurt your argument. You constantly post crap that you call facts without any reference or foundation. You take things out of context and use spin to support your ridiculous theories. You routinely post 10 times in a row in an attempt to discourage others from replying to your lies. Every tactic you use is low brow and typical of the ordinary truther drone. But we thank you for showing your true colors and now since you have decided to put your skirt on and bow out of our little debate, I will happily sit back and laugh at all of your stupid posts.
Silence is deafening There are those that take the time to check out what happens around them. There are those that simply don't have the time to check out what happens around them . There are those that can't or won't try and comprehend anything around them unless it is in a 30 second blurb that they can swallow without much thought or effort. There are those that hide their ignorance with biligerence. There are those that have some personal stake that prevents them from even trying or even wanting to look. There are those that refuse to look because what might be the truth scares the hell out of them. There are those that THINK they know the truth and it feels very "safe". Lastly, and hopefully this applies to the majority that are unaware, there are those who plain just dont know, or may suspect something's up, but just plain aren't sure and are not motivated to find out the truth. Which one are you??
I am one of the people who thinks that if enough people believe the bull you and your truther idiot buddies spew, the public will forget that Islamic extremists were responsible for 9/11, The more we lose sight of that the more likely history will repeat itself. But in case you actually get your way, I sincerely hope that you are personally involved in the next terrorist attack so that the terrorists can provide you with undeniable evidence of the truth. But you are probably more fearful of operation Blackbriar than a terrorist attack!
Lehigh now it's my turn to ask you if you've been drinking. Has ANYONE come forward on this thread and claimed Islamic (Muslim) extremists were NOT involved in 9/11? I don't believe so. Not even the "appeasers" as Midas would call them have said any such thing. That being said if Tomcorona and his ilk are truther idiots would that make those that absolutely deny such a possibility liar geniuses? Interesting question and no matter what history does have a tendency to repeat itself in some shape or form.
I guess you missed post #209. The truthers believe that 9/11 was an inside job planned and executed by the United States government. Under their theory, any Islamic extremists involved in 9/11 are relegated to hired guns to provide the primary decoy. The danger of the truther movement is to get people to believe that the terrorists did not plan and execute the attack. I wonder how many of the truthers, who dare not show themselves in public, are Muslim. BTW, they claim the government is responsible for 9/11 but can't provide us with WHO in the government planned it, HOW they did it, WHEN the plan was hatched and completed, or WHY anyone in the government would be motivated to commit genocide. A compelling conspiracy theory to be sure.
Pilots questions for the NTSB Open letter from Pilots 1. The current FDR shows 480' MSL True Altitude, too high to hit the light poles. What are your findings of True Altitude at end of data recording 09:37:44. Why did you provide a Flight Data Recorder that shows the aircraft too high without a side letter of explanation? How did you come to your conclusion. 2. What is the vertical speed at end of data recording :44. How did you come to your conclusion. 3. What is the Absolute Altitude and end of data recording? How did you come to your conclusion. 4. Why does the csv file show the altimeter being set in the baro cor column on the descent through FL180, but the animation altimeter does not show it being set?(This is a blatant cover-up to confuse the average layman in hopes no one would adjust for local pressure to get True Altitude. Too bad for them we caught it). 5. Why do the current G Forces for the last minute of data correspond to the changes in vertical speed, yet at end of data :44-:45 it shows an increase in vertical speed never accounting for any type of level off to be level with the lawn as shown in the DoD video? 6. Do you have any video showing a clear impact and/or of the plane on its approach to impact? 7. Why does your animation show a flight path north of the reported flight path? 8. Why are there no system indication of any impact with any object up to and after :44? 9. Why does the csv file and animation show a right bank when the official report requires a left bank to be consistent with physical damage to the generator? 10. How did you come to the conclusion of 09:37:45 as the official impact time? 11. What is the exact chain of custody of the FDR? What date/time was it found? Where exactly was it found? Please provide documentation and names. 12. Why does the hijack timeline show a 3 min interval for hijacking to take place? Why was Capt. Burlingame reported to have not followed protocol for the Common Strategy prior to 9/11?
Bricks to argue with....... http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/Counterterrorism_Veterans.html All of these folks must be paranoid lunatics.
Yep. They must be. Dont you think its possible? Do you think hobos who talk to thier shoes are the only people who are paranoid? The links states no newspaper will listen to these ''experts''. Are you kidding? There are plenty of mainstream papers that love to prove the government is wrong.
Really... that's all you're able to interpret from that link?? Maybe you could point out which of these folks below are hobos and which "talk to their shoes". I must have missed that. I didn't list them all but perhaps you could help me out. "main street papers"..you mean from Fox news or what? Quite a way for all these folks to come..from professionals in the government to hobos.. Your intellect precedes you Sir. #General Albert Stubblebine, former commander of U.S. Army Intelligence #Col. Ronald D. Ray, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense #Major John M. Newman, PhD, former Executive Assistant to the Director of the National Security Agency #Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, PhD, former staff member of the Director of the National Security Agency #Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter # Daniel Ellsberg, PhD, former U.S. State Department envoy to Viet Nam and Special Assistant to the Assistant Secretary of Defense # Col. Ann Wright, former Deputy Chief of Mission of U.S. Embassies in Sierra Leone, Micronesia and Afghanistan. 16 years as U.S. Diplomat. 29-year U.S. Army career. # Fred Burks, former simultaneous interpreter for President Bill Clinton and George W. Bush and others. 18-year State Department career # Melvin Goodman, PhD, former Senior Analyst, Bureau of Intelligence and Research, State Department. Later served as Division Chief, CIA’s Office of Soviet Affairs and Professor of International Security, National War College # Michael Springmann, retired career Foreign Service Officer. Former Consular Officer in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. 20-year career with the State Department and the International Foreign Trade Administration, Commerce Department # George Kenney, former career Foreign Service Officer. Served as Yugoslav desk officer at the State Department headquarters. # Michael Mennard, PhD, retired career Foreign Service Officer. Served as Regional Public Affairs Officer in India # Edward Peck, former Deputy Coordinator, Covert Intelligence Programs, U.S. State Department. Later served as Deputy Director of the White House Task Force on Terrorism under President Ronald Reagan. Former U.S. Ambassador and Chief of Mission in Iraq # David Griscom, PhD, retired research physicist with 33 years at the Naval Research Laboratory Dwain Deets, MS, former Director, Aerospace Projects at NASA’s Dryden Flight Research Center Edward S. Munyak, MS, PE, over 20 years experience as a Fire Protection Engineer for the U.S. Departments of Energy, Defense, and Veterans Affairs. Subject Matter Expert to the U.S. Department of Energy Fire Protection Engineering Functional Area Qualification Standard for Nuclear Facilities
