Obama pronounces 9/11 "National Service Day"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by vess1, Sep 11, 2009.

  1. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    Do your own homework.

    Long ago, Obama stated he could no sooner disavow Rev Wright than he could the black community. That is untill the teleprompter told him Wright was hurting his campaign, only then did he throw him under the bus.
     
  2. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Ok. I used the word deserve loosely. We had it coming. We asked for it. And David; I dont mean you. Or your Aunt, or Midas. Or the two little girls who live down the road from me. I mean the United States. I mean our(the United States now not us in this room)foriegn policy. We had a chance to do the right thing in the Middle East a long time ago. But we bet on the wrong horses. Who knows what might be if we had stayed in Afghanistan after the russians left and help them build a better form of government. Maybe there'd be no taliban now. No al-Qeda. Maybe if we got rid of Hussein in the '80s when we shouldve. Maybe if we had turned over the Shah of Iran to face his crimes. Thats what I meant. But I think you know that.
     
  3. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Sorry Jack that dont cut it, I dont care what he said long, long ago in a distant universe, what matters is the now, so I ask again are these people now part of his inner circle or not?
     
  4. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Shoot...how many people are part of his cabinet (or were even considered) that don't pay their taxes? Remember...it is EASY for liberals to spend somebody else's money...never their own.

    Let's see...there was Tom Daschle who was B.O.'s buddy promising to come to Washington pledging to change the culture of the capital and impose a new standard of responsibility. Of course, the tax problems of Daschle and other Obama nominees and "Czars" amount to his judgement of character, don't you think?

    How about Tim Geithner? B.O.'s s secretary of the Treasury owed something like $34,000 in back taxes when he was picked to head the nation's financial system!?!? Most other people would be in jail for this corruption!

    Remember Bill Richardson? He had to withdraw because of an investigation into alleged ''pay-to-play'' politics at home.

    One is a mistake. Two is a problem. Three is a pattern. When you start getting beyond a third, fourth, etc., it becomes a question of judgment. How does B.O. ask Americans to sacrifice while Cabinet members don't sacrifice until they get caught?''

    Oh...there's more. Remember Nancy Killefer, who was nominated to a top budget post but had failed to pay unemployment compensation taxes for domestic help and had a lien placed on her home as a result. She had to ask B.O. to withdraw her nomination.

    Suddenly, too many of Obama's picks struck many people as business as usual rather than his so-called change you can believe in CRAP!

    How about William Lynn? He is the number two man at the Pentagon. Lynn was a lobbyist for defense contractor Raytheon. The president also named William Corr, a former anti-tobacco lobbyist, as the deputy secretary of health and human services. Corr said he wouldn't deal with tobacco issues.

    Just to name a few of B.O.'s "friends" and people that influence him.

    I guess that makes me a racist when you criticize a black President...Boo Hoo
     
  5. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    LOL not a very good choice for you to pick midas

    Tim Geithner
    October 2003 was named president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York so he worked for President Bush

    Bill Richardson
    August 2009, federal prosecutors dropped the pending investigation against the governor

    Nancy Killefer
    In 2005 the District of Columbia government had filed a more than $900 tax lien on her home for failure to pay state unemployment tax on household help. She resolved the matter five months after the lien was filed. Killefer withdrew her nomination as CPO on February 3, 2009

    Now I cant say much about the last two names as I actualy agree that William Lynn shoudnt have got the job and Corr I dont know enough about him.

    Now can I ask who this is aimed at

    I guess that makes me a racist when you criticize a black President...Boo Hoo

    If it is at me then I expect a apology as I have never accused anyone of been a Racist for disagreeing with President Obamas policies.
     
  6. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    That universe, far away & long, long ago was within the past year or so genuis!
    So, in your book, at what point does a President's track record & history no longer matter?
     
  7. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary


    All of this stuff comes out in a vetting process. If Obama knew this but still pushed for Senate approval on these hoodlums...kinda makes you wonder what Obama is covering up with his Czar appointments doesn't it?
     
  8. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Bill Richardson and Nancy Killifer hoodlums? Wow. Hoodlums. What is this some cheap 'B' movie from the 1950's? Can a girl be a hoodlum?
     
  9. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    Excellent point David and priceless as well.

    What time frame would YOU put on this question? It ends at the inauguration if a Democrat is replacing a Republican but not the other way around?
    You can jump all over a Clinton but ignore the 8 years George W. was in office because it didn't matter? Had no long lasting effects?

    This certainly seems how you play (whine) the game to me and others I'll bet and I'm not a betting man.

    The simple answer to all of this is that it all matters. Past and present.

    Just last night I was watching a show about Hitler, Mussolini and Hitler's attempts to develop a nuclear bomb. I have done no real research on this but it seems he may have been pretty close to it. Closer than many may have thought.

    Luckily the U.S. got it first and President Truman made the decision to drop it. Is that too far back in history to matter or did it change the world as we know it?

    So you see I can understand your questioning of DeOrc's statement. What I can't understand is that if someone else DARES to go back before January 20th it's past history.

    Can you explain that to me and please quote this whole post.
     
  10. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Oh man. Youre on the sh!t list now, clembo.
     
  11. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Well lets see David if I happen to mention someone worked for President Bush then according to you that is old history so dont count, but if he happend to work for a Democrat then he is fair game!! You realy do have a warped perspective. Now care to prove your accusations agianst those two you called Hoodlums?? One forgot to or tried to avoid paying some $900 in tax and the other is Innocent!! Notice you never mentioned the guy who worked for President Bush LOL and still going on about President Obamas advisors!! I gave you a list of them and asked you to show me the communists or Ultra left wingers amongst them! Some worked for the Pentagon, Large Banks, Computer Security firms, President Bush and what do I ge the same old tired drivel :eek:

    Now My question was and still is are Wright or Ayers in his innner circle, do the visit with him on a daily, weekly, monthly basis, is President Obama on the phone to them regular seeking advice or are they just figures that are in his past? We have no idea as to what innfluence Ayers actualy had on the man as there are no records of them meeting regular going to games together, out partying or are there? Yes Wright was a large part of his life but that dont mean that Obama follows all he said (But of course you dont want to believe that as it dont fit the picture you want to paint of your President)
     
  12. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Hitler? Truman? FOCUS!!
    Sooooo...in the midst of all this rambling....do you agree with me or not?
    My point was simply this:
    Is something Obama said, in order to get elected, really ancient history just because a few months has passed? I don't believe so.
    And to clarify another point of contention for you- I have not said that what some other Pres (including Bush) did "doesn't matter". My point is that what one Pres has done doesn't justify the actions of another, especially, in Obama's case where he perpetrated the "new kind of politician" charade and tried so hard to paint himself as diametrically the opposite of George Bush. To put it terms a few of you may understand....you can't defend your position by using the "2 wrongs make a right" argument.
     
  13. Midas

    Midas New Member

    It is common sense...You can judge a person with whom he hangs out with...or who are his closest friends. It is important to know what B.O.'s character is by judging those that have shaped and advised him for all of years as a "community organizer":

    B.O.'s inneer circle of friends and advisors are pretty much a circle of rogues, reds and radicals. These people are long term friends, mentors and today (unfortunately) White House advisors that B.O. CHOSE to be associated with.

    They can give anybody a good idea of who B.O. really is.

    How about Rashid Khalidi? He is a PAID Propagandist for the islamic terrorist group the P.L.O. Barack Obama's connection to radical Islamists such as Rashid Khalidi and Ali Abunimah have received scant media attention. B.O. and his wife attended a banquet with Khalidi at which the anti-Israel professor Edward Said was the keynote speaker.

    How can you excuse B.O. for launching his politcal career at the home of his terrorist friend Bill Ayers? This guy is a terrorist, murderer, liar and has been part of B.O. from his very start! Are you going to tell me that guy did not have any influence on shaping B.O. political beliefs??

    The Rev. Jeremiah Wright preached "Black Liberation Theology" (hate) and was a friend and pastor to B.O. for over 20 years. This idiot married B.O. and his wife. He baptized his two kids. Are you goingto tell me that he did not shape and influence B.O.'s character in those 20 years??

    What about John Holden? He is a special advisor on the enviroment. Here's a radical that wrote a book that advocates extreme totalitarian measures to control population with forced abortions, mass sterilization. His book, "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens. The tyrannical fantasies of a madman? Or merely the opinions of the person now in control of science policy in the United States? Or both?

    How about Louis Farrakhan who called B.O. the Messiah. Farrakhan was a neighbor of B.O. in his Chicago neighborhood. B.O. helped Farrackhan though his "community orgainizing" skills the million man march. B.O. also hired two members of the Nation of Islam to work on his staff—Jennifer Mason and Cynthia K. Miller. But the fact that both Wright and Farrakhan had been listed as spiritual advisors to B.O. forces the question about B.O.'s faith and beliefs.

    Look at Cass Sunstein. He is B.O.'s "Censorship" czar. Basically, B.O. appointed this radical to what is essrentially the Czar of Free Speech that is critical of B.O. and other liberals. This guy wants the courts to grant him powers to go after internet bloggers (like this forum) that are critical of B.O. and his likes!?!?!

    Then there is Mark Lloyd: He is the "Diversity Czar" at the FCC. This guy like many of B.O.'s "czars" are sympathic to Marxist regimes. Lloyd is a big fan of Venezuela’s socialist dictator, Hugo Chavez. Although Chavez has shot unarmed demonstrators, Lloyd has called socialist Venezuela a model, praised its authoritarian leader’s “incredible revolution” and defended his attacks on independent media.

    How can you ignore George Soros who is an admitted and unrepentant Nazi collaborator who spend millions and helped get B.O. elected. You don't think that a guy with his views that spent $$$$ millions supporting B.O. is not going to have a direct line to B.O. and his administration??

    Like I stated...birds of feather flock together. Show me a man's friends and I will show you the man's character.
     
  14. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    My god finaly you prove just how sick you are, Soros was born in 1930 Midas was 13 years old when the Germans took over Hungery and is a Jew!!!
    He worked for the Jewish Council Midas as a teenager and you say he collaberated with the Nazi's :eek:

    The Jewish Council asked the little kids to hand out the deportation notices. I was told to go to the Jewish Council. And there I was given these small slips of paper...It said report to the rabbi seminary at 9 a.m....And I was given this list of names. I took this piece of paper to my father. He instantly recognized it. This was a list of Hungarian Jewish lawyers. He said, "You deliver the slips of paper and tell the people that if they report they will be deported

    I also notice that you make no mention of the fortune the man has donated to good causes!!

    Rashid Khalidi is also a Professor of Modern Arab Studies at Columbia University and director of the Middle East Institute of Columbia's School of International and Public Affairs Now I wonder what other Politicians have had meetings with him and yes even attended the same formal dinners?
    How about the the International Republican Institute with such illuminaries as Senator John McCain, Paul Bremer, Brent Scowcroft and Chuck Hagel which provided grants worth $500,000 to the Center for Palestine Research and Studies. which was co-founded by Khalidi :eek:

    Louis Farrakhan!! we are clutching at straws here Midas

    "Senator Obama has been clear in his objections to Minister Farrakhan's past pronouncements and has not solicited the minister's support," said Obama spokesman Bill Burton

    And I believe that President Obama actualy rejected Farkams views in a tv debate but that is not good enough for you after all The President KNOWS HIM!!

    Ayers he knows the man but are they buddies I doubt it but you want to think so, Wright again yes he knows hom and the man was his spiritual adviser despite certain right wing ellements pronouncing him a Muslim, but again I ask you is he part of his circle now?

    Mark Lloyd LOL so he likes Chevez big deal!! he was though an affiliate professor at the Georgetown Public Policy Institute, and in the years from 2002-2004 Lloyd was a visiting lecturer at MIT where he conducted research and taught about communications policy. Now check out some of the PPI sevices

    Certificates and Special Programs
    • Inspectors General Program
    • Certificate in Homeland Security Studies
    • Nonprofit Management Executive Certificate
    • Certificate Program in Legislative Studies
    • Bio-Defense and Public Policy Certificate
    • Tec de Monterrey Summer Course

    And you think he will not have been thoroughly vetted by the Inteligence Agencies!! Dream on LOL

    John Holden
    Now I thought he would have been one of your heros after all they reckon Muslims are out breeding non Muslims and he seems to have the answer LOL But yes he is a bit on the Whackey side but how much influence does he have? I dont know do you?

    Cass Sunstein so he wants the Courts to grant him powers now have they? and did not former President Bush also wish to have influence over the internet? and has he not also been confirmed by the Senate? 57 to 40 I believe but that dont count I suppose cus you dont like him LOL
     
  15. Midas

    Midas New Member

    I responded to you without the personal attacks, but the bottom line is that B.O. believes (by his actions) in government over the individual. That alone will contribute to the downfall of this republic when people that support this madness will look to government for all of its direction...instead of from within.
     
  16. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Personal attack LOL When you begin to accuse a Jewish person who actualy lived through the horrors of the German occupation, of collaberating with the Nazi's you realy better have something realy good to say. You just picked something out of the ether without any thought and ran with it!! Yes I called you sick and to sugest such a thing without a shread of evidence I believe is justified.
     
  17. Midas

    Midas New Member

    And for the others from his inner circle???...some of the most radical liberals and leftists this country has ever seen???
     
  18. craig a

    craig a New Member

    And? Dont ya think it'd be kinda dumb of Obama to have consrevative rightwing extremists. Thats not what his party is about. You really shouldnt be allowed to post anything here, Dr. Gullable.
     
  19. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Lets see Midas according to you he has surrounded himself with Left wing, supporters of Palastine and terrorism, yet many of them see to be of the Jewish faith, some worked for Repbublican Presidents, some worked at the Pentagon, others in the Inteligence field by god sir Your country realy must be in a mess if these fanatics could work in so many critical areas!! why I believe that some even served in your Senate :eek:

    President Obamas Cabbinate and those in the line of sucession all confirmed

    Hillary Clinton
    Timothy Geithner
    Robert Gates
    Eric Holder
    Ken Salazar
    Tom Vilsack
    Gary Locke
    Hilda Solis
    Kathleen Sebelius
    Shaun Donovan
    Ray LaHood Officialy a Republican affiliate
    Steven Chu
    Arne Duncan
    Eric Shinseki final U.S. Army post was as the 34th Chief of Staff of the Army (1999-2003).
    Janet Napolitano served 2 terms as gov of Arizona prior to that was the stated AG

    Chief of Staff not confirmed by the senate
    Rahm Emanuel Some Arabs have expressed dismay at Obama’s appointment of Emanuel
     
  20. Midas

    Midas New Member

    This is just freakin great...just great

    B.O. Appoints 2 Devout Muslims to Homeland Security Posts

    [NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a devout Catholic, Jew or Protestant...? Just wondering]

    Doesn't this make you appeasers feel safer already??

    B.O. and Janet "Nappyhead" Napolitano appoint Devout Muslim to Homeland Security Post, Arif Alikhan as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development.

    Source for announcement: Homeland Security Press Room

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/...intment-arif-ali-khan-asst-secretary-dhs.html

    Kareem Shora, who was born in Damascus, Syria was appointed by DHS Secretary Napolitano on Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC)

    The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) is proud to announce at a ceremony held in Albuquerque, New Mexico, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano swore-in ADC National Executive Director Kareem Shora as a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC).

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    Devout Muslims being appointed to critical Homeland Security positions?

    That should make our homeland much safer, don't you think??

    Was it not men of the "Devout Muslim Faith" who flew planes into U.S. buildings not too long ago?

    What the heck is this president thinking?

    Just more proof as to who B.O. really is!!
     

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