Dems and Repos UNITE !!!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by arizonaJack, Sep 2, 2009.

  1. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Bush was much more scary with that Patriot act bs. And talk anout control of the media (do you remember the Dixie Chicks?) Bush was 1000 times worse then Obama.
     
  2. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Now I have run him through Google and I agree the man is bad news but who do you think would win Jack him or the media if he tried to run them? Who is it who creates the publice perception of what is going on in the world? Well yes the Media and do you think they would sit back and say Oh ok lets do what he wants!! I think not
    Now that is 2 of them I have shown 3 who as far as I can see are good guy's so go ahead and flood me
     
  3. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    AIDS Czar
    Jeffrey Crowley
    was a senior scholar and researcher at the Institute for Health Policy at Georgetown University where he focused on Medicare/Medicaid policy from 2000-09. Prior to that he worked at the National Association of People with AIDS, as a public policy intern in 1994, and finally serving as Deputy Executive Director for Programs in 2000
    So he knows about the illness whats wrong with him?

    Auto Czar
    Ron Bloom
    Sec. of Treasury appointed
    He was previously the special assistant to the President of the United Steel Workers based out of Pittsburgh since 1996. Before that he worked as a Investment Banker
    Hardly the credentials for a comunist?


    Auto Recovery/Autoworker Czar
    Ed Montgomery
    Full Proffesor of Economics 1997/99 Montgomery served as chief economist of the United States Department of Labor for President Clinton. From 20/01, he served as Deputy Secretary of Labor, the 2nd highest position in that department. From 2003/09, he served as dean of the College of Behavioral and Social Sciences at the University of Maryland, College Park
    Possible left leanings as a number of academics do LOL

    Bank Bailout/TARP Czar
    Herbert M. Allison
    previous position was as President and CEO of Fannie Mae, appointed in September 2008. Prior to that, Mr. Allison was Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer of TIAA-CREF from 2002/08 Was a Investment banker, National Finance Chair for U.S. Senator John McCain's first Presidential Campaign. From 2003/05 he was a director of the New York Stock Exchange, served in Vietnam was confirmed by the Senate

    Again hardly a lefty

    Border Czar
    Alan Bersin
    Appt by Sec of Homeland Security
    1995/98 served as the Attorney General’s Southwest Border Representative, coordinating law enforcement on the border between the U.S. and Mexico
    1998 Superintendent of Public Education in San Diego City Schools 2005 California's Education Secretary

    Again look at his background hardly a raving leftie

    Cyber Security Czar
    Melissa Hathaway
    Senior Advisor to the Director of National Intelligence, Mike McConnell, chaired the NCSG.
    specialized in cybersecurity strategies with consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton
    was employed with consulting firm Evidence Based Research. Her work included developing models for detection of cocaine movement into the United States.
    She has a B.A. degree from the American University in Washington, DC, and graduated from the US Armed Forces Staff College

    Again I must ask were is the threat?
     
  4. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Jack has fallen victim to right wing extremist propaganda. There is no substance to this czar dust up. That one African American guy adds a diversity of opinion to his advisers (Van something). He is far less scary than Cheney or rumsfeld was
     
  5. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    The threat comes from having this many people in positions of authority being appointed by Obama & answerable only to Obama.
    Were they vetted by anyone?
     
  6. craig a

    craig a New Member

    You mean like the invention of Homeland Security director? Nixons drug czar or energy czar? There is nothing this president can do right in your eyes. I hope you are right. I hope these guys along with Obama are conspiring to take control of this country and run it like a coulpe of two bit drug dealers working behind a Church's fried chicken joint Capping MFs who disagree with them or not showing them thier props. I think that would be hilarious.
     
  7. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    David did you actualy read the detail I have given of those above? They will have been vetted, take Mr Allison he was confirmed by the Senate, or Miss Hathaway worked in the Intel comunity!!
    Now again please tell me what is different between these picked by President Obama and those picked by President Bush?

    Jack has named 1 who I agree is on the scary side and I believe you named another who has communist leanings in the past. Both of those I can agree should be viewed with sceptizism at the very least. But and here is the Big thing you are condeming them all out of hand (Not just you personaly but many on the right) when some of these people have served in capacities which would have required quite rigerouse background checks, some have served past Presidents and presidential candidates yet because President Obama picked them they are Wrong!!
     
  8. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Why should they be vetted? Where are you getting this?:confused:
     
  9. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    Steve
    It is not just HIS czars, it is his friends as well as some in congress.

    His some right wing wacko websites and see for youself. Ignore the OPINIONS and Hyperbole, read the facts and watch the youtube vids of the people in question IN THEIR OWN WORDS. I have not the time right now, but am slowly gathering my own links.
     
  10. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    ;)
    DanR has fallen victim of the indroctination folks. Rather ignore what he sees and blindly follow the messiah and the lefty socialists. DanR should believe his eyes and ears and not the Huffy's.
    :D
     
  11. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    What? Are you serious? I knew there were some people out there who would follow Obama off a cliff & sing his praises during the entire fall but this is ridiculous.
     
  12. Danr

    Danr New Member

    were reagan's czars "vetted"?
     
  13. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    2 points:
    1) Shouldn't we expect the Pres to get it right 100% of the time if he is appointing people to positions of authority willy-nilly? Celebrating his selection of a few who may pass muster while excusing him for the questionable ones is just plain wrong.
    2) "Obama picked them they are Wrong!!" Many of his appointments seem to have issues. When he appoints his cronies without any regard to their past activities, then yeah, he will have some obstacles before him.
     
  14. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Exactly who were Reagan's czar, anyway?
     
  15. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member


    While most Americans are awakening from the lazy sleep, this is exactly what is happening.
     
  16. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Well Van Jones has gone he resigned so you can all stop worrying about him LOL
    Reagan's Drug czar was Carlton Turner

    Now here is a list of those who served as Czars for President GW Bush
    Some were confirmed by the senate the same as some of President Obamas have been and some were not

    Abstinence Czar - Randall L. Tobias
    AIDS Czar - Scott Evertz/Joe O'Neil/Carol Thompson
    Bank Bailout Cz - Neel Kashkari
    Bioethics Czar - Leon Kass
    Bird flu Czar - Stewart Simonson
    Birth control czar - Erik Keroack
    Budget czar - Mitch Daniels/Joshua Bolten/Rob Portman
    Clean Up Czar - James Rispoli
    Communications Czar - Dan Bartlett
    Cyber Security Czar - Richard Clarke/Rod Beckstrom
    Democracy Czar- Elliott Abrams (A convicted fellon 1991 withheld info from Congress)
    Domestic Policy Czar - Karl Rove
    Drug Czar - John Walters
    Faith Czar - Don Willet/John DiIulio/Jim Towey/Lay Hein
    Food Safety Czar - David Acheson
    Global AIDS Czar - Randall Tobias/Mark Dybul
    Health Czar for WTC - John Howard
    Health IT Czar - David Brailer
    Homeland Security Czar - Michael Chertoff
    Homeless Czar - Phil Mangano
    Gulf Coast Reconstruction Czar - Donald Powell
    Intelligence Czar - John Negroponte/John McConnell
    Manufacturing Czar - Albert Frink/William Sutton
    Policy Czar - Michael Gerson
    Public Diplomacy Czar - Karen Hughes/James Glassman
    Reading czar - Reid Lyon
    Regulatory Czar - John Graham/Susan Dudley
    Science Czar - John Marburger
    Terrorism Czar - Richard Clark/Wayne Downing/John Brennan
    War Czar - Douglas Lute
     
  17. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    This President has 'one term wonder' written all over him.
     
  18. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary


    Yeah, and the "wonder" part is fading fast.
     
  19. vess1

    vess1 "Birds of a feather...."

    The only thing I fear worse than this term is the prospect of a second term when the gloves can finally come off. That will be a free pass to pursue his extreme left-wing agendas with wreckless abandon.

    Don't think for a second that the gun control issue is dead. It's just sitting there smoldering, waiting to be re-kindled. Just waiting for the next school massacre to happen.
    It will be a top priority eventually. It has to be. It's a big issue with him and after a year, they've nearly run out of issues to attack. If not this term, certainly in the second. Avoiding it this term may fool people long enough to get him elected to a second term. That's why we haven't heard anything about it. It's so unbelievably predictable.
     

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