If you are a national level politician a little ridicule comes with the job (Palin)

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Danr, Jun 27, 2009.

  1. Danr

    Danr New Member

  2. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    I quite agree that Gov Palin herself is a legitimate target for humour etc but (and this is just my opinion) her children are not and specialy not a child with downs syndrome or any other such disability.
    We went through this with Lettermans crass comments, but I suppose some people who just think it is ok to do this suffer from a distinct lack of taste.
     
  3. Danr

    Danr New Member

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    As I recall she was the one that pimped them out on the campaign trail. Once you prostitute them out they are open to this stuff.
     
  4. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    Pretty strong words Dan, " pimped" and " prostituted".

    Would you choose those same words for the Obama girls? Was Obama " pimping " his wife when she planted her gardern or when they had their NYC trip and " date night" ? Was Obama " prostituting" his daughters when they played on the south lawn with the new puppy?

    Why all the hatred for Palin? She is gone.

    C'mon bud, don't be like that, you are much better.;)
     
  5. Danr

    Danr New Member

    I do not recall any politician exploiting their family to the extent that she did. She held them up as a big "family values" type of family and it turned out that she was not "all that" after all.
     
  6. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Sorry Danr it is expected of a politician to display there family, if they dont then questions start been asked about why, whats the big secret! What she did was no different to what President Obama did with his kids, and I have to agree with Jack concerning your discription "Pimping" she will have followed party guidelines.
    If you have never seen a family held up in this way I would sugest you have a look back a few years to the Kennedy clan :D
    Have you ever heard a politician stand up and say hell I cant have my family on stage with me because they are a bunch of lying, hypocritical A Holes LOL or words to that effect? Of course not they all claim to have these absolut family values and be above moral reproche :D
     
  7. Danr

    Danr New Member

    she was pretty holier than thou about her "family values". No other politician has ever used their family this much.
     
  8. Danr

    Danr New Member

    the real kicker about this is that it is from a local Alaska blog. One or two thousand people would have seen this had she not made a big deal about it.
     
  9. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Boy, she does not go gentle into that good night.
     
  10. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    Ain't politics ugly?

    It happens to all of them in varying degrees. Some deserved and some not. Now as for Palin. I don't like, nor have I ever liked her.

    However, there have been "attacks" on her in very poor taste. No I don't want to see this stuff happen to anyone be it Palin, Obama etc. Can't say I don't get a laugh at it at times honestly but sometimes it goes too far.

    On the other hand Palin sets herself up for this stuff better than most. People take advantage of it and the more she brings it to light the more it will happen. An odd version of the squeeky wheel gets the grease.

    Like NO ONE has had anything bad to say about Obama? Get real now I see this stuff way to often in emails I don't even ask for. Construed as everything from a Muslim to a Nigger. Hear him whining about it?
    Perhaps he's too busy trying to sort out the mess we're in or take over the world depending on your point of view. Point is he isn't whining about it.

    Now to roughly address a few posts here.

    Is she really "gone" Jack? If so why is she still being "attacked"? If she is "gone" why not just shut up and let it die? She may be a bit smarter than I thought. This crap keeps her alive if one really looks at it.
    Goad a few "whacked out lefties" to keep this crap up and her name is still around.

    To DanR. I have to agree with you on the "holier than though" sentiment. She went for the religious right with zeal. Good for her - or not. That's a move that can really burn your butt. Hers got burned.
    Don't try and pass yourself off as Ozzie and Harriet if you're not. She would have probably done better if she said I have a typical, fairly dysfuntional American family. At least that's believable. If you really look at ANY family there are dysfunctional problems. Doesn't have to be immediate but they're somewhere.

    Finally DeOrc. Yep, Kennedy had his kids in the limelight. One can certainly take the "kids" back much further than that. People have a curiosity about leaders and their kin and country. Would that be a fair assessment?

    Difference now, in large part IMHO, is the internet. Look at so many Presidents, their spouses and children in the past. People wanted to know. There were pictures taken, then write ups in the newspaper and depending on the time frame it might get to you in a week or so.

    Media got faster over time and so "news" spread faster. Anyone remember Amy Carter in Public School? It was a big deal but the internet was in it's infancy then. Hence, less and slower attacks.

    Now we can take a picture, photoshop it and send it around the world in minutes from our homes!

    The internet has changed everything. It seems everyone from plain folks to politicians seem to overlook this fact way too often.

    They all need to wake up. We have access to so much more information as well as so much false BS. It's a matter of deciphering it.
     
  11. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Maybe I am a bit over the top, but she rubs me the wrong way (probably the way Republicans feel about Hillary). Some say that we lefties hate her because we fear her. I agree with that, the thought of Palin having real power does in fact scare me.
     
  12. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Maybe someone here will finally answer the question I have been asking for months now...why all the hostility towards Palin?
    She has a track record of successful governing...her blue-collar, self reliant background is certainly something most people can relate to...she supports & advocates for a strong nuclear family...she's an outspoken advocate for life? Palin is the poster child for walking the walk when it comes to pulling yourself up by the bootstraps, doing the right things while making tough decisisons and making yourself into a successful human being.
    She's a hypocrite because her teenage daughter for pregnant? Is that the best you can do? Really? Some of the best parents (and people) I know have had kids who make mistakes. You know what good people do? They support their kids, expect them to take responsibility & help others from making the same mistake. What is so wrong with that?
    I know the libs hate her because she didn't abort her Downs baby or insist that her daughter do the same but c'mon. Pimp & prostitute? I dare you to name 1 single, solitary candidate who has not included their family on the national stage. It gives us an idea of who they are & where they come from.
    All of this is merely a smoke screen to deflect heat away from some of the left's golden boys, such as Letterman, making the crudest of jokes at the expense of children.
     
  13. craig a

    craig a New Member

    ''I know the libs hate her because she didn't abort her Downs baby or insist that her daughter do the same but c'mon. Pimp & prostitute?''-David. You know that for a fact thats why? How do you know this? I havent heard about anyone claiming they dont like Palin because she or her daughter didnt abort thier babies. Where did you find this out?
     
  14. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Well I happent to like Gov Palin I thought she brought to life a campaign that otherwise would have been very one sided and that did scare certain elements of the political world. She was quite a unknown factor in what for so long has been a well worked out circus LOL
    I also like a certain Mrs Clinton and would have much rather seen her in the White house than President Obama LOL
    But attacks on the families is low to say the least if you cant come out with something good to use against the main contender why bother as all you end up doing is creating support for them.
    I have to say I doubt if anyone hates her or her daughter for not having a abortion, there might have been those who would have if she had done so though.
     
  15. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Oh, how fast they forget!
    Harken back to the elections....several of the lib bloggers were making an issue of it. Remember?
     
  16. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    Yes David I had to put the KNOW part in bold.

    Now whether or not I agree with you you were sailing along pretty well in your first post. Making points from your point of view then you tossed in the ultimate stupidity.

    Did things like this appear on blogs? Not being part of them I would assume they did. Lots of people say stupid things.
    I heard of blogs that said if Obama was elected he'd be taken out by the KKK. Betting that's true as well.
    If I wanted to waste my time I'm sure I could find it.

    Why don't I? It's a waste of my time. Stupid is stupid and it comes in all flavors. Now, you choose to quote stupid because you KNOW the Libs hate her and her daughter for not aborting their babies.

    Ever talk to a Lib in person David? Ask them about these things? The whole abortion issue is about a woman's right to choose what she does to her body. Right or wrong.
    It's NOT an issue that other's decide for her. In other words your statement isn't stupid. It's BEYOND stupid.
    Nice job.
     
  17. craig a

    craig a New Member

    They actually said they didnt like her daughter because she wouldnt get an abortion? Youll have to post that statement. and even if thats true(which I doubt), does that one blogger speak for all the libs? I think you are just generalizing to suit yourself
     
  18. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Lot's of spewing from some & deafening silence from others....I'll ask again: What has Palin done to evoke the left's hatred?
     
  19. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Well I am acused of been a socialist by more than one person on this forum LOL and I LIKE HER!!
     
  20. craig a

    craig a New Member

    But not all, right? You did post ''the lib's'' dont like her. That infers all not some. And I bet you cannot show me one ''blog'' or post that stated that person doesnt like Palin's daughter because she didnt get an abortion.
     

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